Did anybody notice that early on in this episode they kept on referring to "the others" as the rest of the survivors from the plane crash. It seemed quite deliberate, when the translation from Sun and Jim speaking of "the others," and the very next scene was Claire referring to everyone else as "the others."

Anyone else starting to think that The Others aren't just a bunch of Ethan's buddies, and that it has more to do with what the island does to groups of people.

I noticed the same thing and I was wondering if it was deliberate.

I noticed that too. *I don't have a theory for it, but I did notice it. *

Well, it almost seemed like Ethan was alone. To me, there appears to be no evidence that Ethan has more people helping him.

It had to be deliberate. I think there were 4 instances where the crash survivors were specifically referred to as "the others." And judging by next week's preview, I don't think any previous inhabitants of the island are their worst problems.

I noticed that too. But I'm sure it meant nothing more than what the person saying it meant.

I beginning to think the "others" at least don't want Claire. Otherwise you would think they would have been around when Ethan was being beat. Unless of course they didn't think they'd kill him and they'd just rescue him later!

Dragging Charlie and Claire and staying ahead of Locke, Jack and Co. is evidence that he's not alone. Plus the trails split up if we are to believe Locke.

You're right, it's weird that Ethan is the only other 'other' that we've seen. Hmm....

I beginning to think the "others" at least don't want Claire. Otherwise you would think they would have been around when Ethan was being beat. Unless of course they didn't think they'd kill him and they'd just rescue him later!


The Others blamed Ethan for letting Claire escape and sent him to get her back.

I think both Locke and Sayid know of the "others" and perhaps this is... dare I say... foreshadowing??

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I think both Locke and Sayid know of the "others" and perhaps this is... dare I say... foreshadowing??

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Sayid know because of frenchie. Locke suspects because of the hatch.

The Others blamed Ethan for letting Claire escape and sent him to get her back.


That's a good thought!

I'm glad Charlie shot Ethan if that means it will bring more of 'the others' out of hiding. Bring on the others!

That's a good thought!

I'm glad Charlie shot Ethan if that means it will bring more of 'the others' out of hiding. Bring on the others!*


I'm sure the castaways don't share your sentiment.

I'm sure the castaways don't share your sentiment.


Yes..but this show wasn't made for their benefit.....its purpose is to entertain me. ;D

Seriously ...of all the mysteries on the island..the monster or why the polar bears are there or who Kate killed and so forth...'the others' have fascinated me the most. So I'm all for calling them out.

lol. You care nothing for our beloved characters do you?

Yes..but this show wasn't made for their benefit.....its purpose is to entertain me.* ;D

Seriously ...of all the mysteries on the island..the monster or why the polar bears are there or who Kate killed and so forth...'the others' have fascinated me the most. So I'm all for calling them out.


I bet we see them in the final few episodes.

if ethan was just their "scout" boy, man i'd hate to see what the rest are like. *there is no way ethan could have strung charlie up by himself. **insert creepy violin music*

if ethan was just their "scout" boy, man i'd hate to see what the rest are like. *there is no way ethan could have strung charlie up by himself. **insert creepy violin music*


But Ethan can pick Charlie up like he was a rag doll.

I too have a feeling that Ethan was sort-of on the lower end of the totem-pole of the Others. I think Ethan arrived fairly recently on the island, and the Others took control of him. He is probably the only one of them capable of fitting in with the crash survivers, so they sent him to deal with them and to do their dirty work. I don't know that they all are as physically strong as him, but they had some kind of intellectual or psychological hold over him...

At least now we know Ethan is human and not a robot of some kind....

Yesh

He bled. If it bleeds, we can kill it. ;D 8)

Yesh

He bled.* If it bleeds, we can kill it.* *;D* 8)


Ethan bleeds. Not so sure about the others.

I really want to see some of these "others" but it IS interesting that the survivors themselves were called "others"....remember nothing in this show is an accident...and yes by next weeks preview it seems they do have to worry about each other more than the "others"

And I dont know if Im totally convinced about Ethan being "human"...pretty strong human to hold charlie up the way he did....but he did bleed....hmmm

Well, if Ethan is human... Why was Sawyer asking, "Will someone tell me what he is" or something along those lines.
If Ethan was actually on the plane during the crash, why wasn't he on the manifest?
So many twists to this story.. ???

And I dont know if Im totally convinced about Ethan being "human"...pretty strong human to hold charlie up the way he did....but he did bleed....hmmm


Yeah, but Charlie's not exactly a body-builder, and Ethan got the crap kicked out of him by Jack. But, he is extremely strong---maybe he's on island steriods? :laugh:

Yeah, but Charlie's not exactly a body-builder, and Ethan got the crap kicked out of him by Jack.* But, he is extremely strong---maybe he's on island steriods?* *:laugh:


I think the only reason Jack got the better of Ethan is because he was tired.

i think jack was hyped up on adrenaline and was still extremely p****d about what ethan did to charlie and claire, i think that's why he was able to kick the crud out of ethan. i've heard stories about people being able to lift cars because of adrenaline. but if someone kidnapped my pregnant friend and tried to kill my hot friend, you better believe i'd be kicking the snot out of them.

I don't think Ethan is one of the others, he's someone that the others have taken in. Ethan was on the plane. :)

True, Ethan was tired. He seemed pretty banged up. Do you think Claire scratched him or do you guys think maybe the Others were angry at him for losing Claire and roughed him up a bit?

Or did Vincent attack him?

1. Vincent
2. Polar bear
3. Claire
4. Twigs and branches as he runs away from Jack, Locke and the others when they were trailing him

True, Ethan was tired.* He seemed pretty banged up.* Do you think Claire scratched him or do you guys think maybe the Others were angry at him for losing Claire and roughed him up a bit?*

Or did Vincent attack him?*

I think Claire did scratch him. Those seemed like scratches made by someone who went for his face and they didn't look like anything done by a bear or underbrush. If a bear took a swipe at a human face the damage would have been far, far greater and underbrush wouldn't leave one set of relatively clean and even scratches. I doubt Vincent could have done it though it is interesting that Vincent showed up at that moment. So my guess ? Someone zapped Ethan's strength for a moment allowing Claire to escape but at the same time wiped her memory. Then that someone or something propelled Ethan to chase after and recapture her at all costs. Bet you Ethan didn't even know who or what exactly was controlling him.

Hmmm, perhaps Ethan wasn't just a new arrival who could blend in with the rest of the survivors.

What if Ethan's left over from the French expedition 17 years earlier, perhaps he was just a kid back then - not much of a chance to develop many social skills during his formative years on that island - just tracking, hunting, etc. There could easily be more like him, the youngest members of the French expedition.

How would he blend in with an English crowd? By saying he was Canadian, (playing on the French Canadian sterotype) to curtail interest should he reveal a French accent before snatching Clair and Charlie. Odd that he didn't have a French accent though.

(As mentioned in another thread...) My son thinks that Ethan could have gotten Claire back just as easily as he could sneak in and kill someone. So maybe what he wanted wasn't Claire. Maybe he was orchestrating the survivors to do something. Like... get out the guns and pass them around. If this is the case, perhaps he (Ethan) was just playing it all for show and letting Jack beat him up. I don't know what he would have done next if Charlie hadn't shot him, but if he wasn't really tired out, then he probably could have gotten away pretty easily.