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Pulpy Austinite
02-09-2005, 10:15 PM
i posted this somewhere before where i listed the traps shows fall into. but 14 episodes in its starting to look like the writers are afraid to take chances. they've raised our expectations and its time to deliver the goods. shock us! there's a delicate balance between becoming Dallas and becoming boring. right now they are bordering boring. thoughts?

jme
02-09-2005, 10:23 PM
I'm not one bit bored!! I'm already counting the hours until next Wednesday!! ;D

theG
02-09-2005, 10:24 PM
I'm bored with certain characters, but I've always found them uninteresting. I'm excited for next week, though ;D

*chants* Drew, Drew, Drew

elfdream
02-09-2005, 10:26 PM
No..not bored here.

How are expectations being raised? *I only blame myself if I choose to believe certain spoilers over others and get my hopes up for something...

If they chop and re-edit the previews so as to not give away everything..then they are only doing what producers have been doing in tv shows for years...they are also called 'teasers' for a reason.

My expectations are high...but the show doesn't disapoint either.

banshee
02-09-2005, 10:41 PM
I'm not bored either...I liked the whole circle the wagons everyone on the same team for once. Maybe I just loved seeing Jack kick Ethan's *** :laugh:

DarthKosh
02-09-2005, 10:42 PM
I'm not bored either...I liked the whole circle the wagons everyone on the same team for once. Maybe I just loved seeing Jack kick Ethan's ass* :laugh:


I like how they were looking towards the jungle and he came out of the ocean.

baryonyx
02-09-2005, 10:45 PM
Not bored, just frustrated with this commerical issue. There's definitely a lot going for the show, and, for a 1st season, this one's been very compelling. In the case of arc shows, you can't really say til it's all done... The X-Files is a prime example of that.

AlaneSue
02-09-2005, 10:50 PM
If they chop and re-edit the previews so as to not give away everything..then they are only doing what producers have been doing in tv shows for years...they are also called 'teasers' for a reason.



Isn't it traditionally the network that does the previews rather than the producers? I'm not saying that "Lost" couldn't be different, but I thought the network PR machine generally wrote up the episode descriptions, released publicity photos and did the previews.

Alane

Templeton
02-09-2005, 11:09 PM
I wasn't bored until tonight.

I agree the show's not taking risks, unless their risk-taking includes making formerly likeable characters unlikeable by means of their flashbacks (i.e., Kate, Boone and Shannon -- ok, so I didn't like them to begin with; now Charlie).

My patience is finally wearing thin on the plotlines that remain unresolved -- and in some cases, not even mentioned -- for week after week. It's now beginning to look as though things like the cable Sayid found, the Black Rock, the hatch, The Others, and of course the monster were just teasers to hook the audience. If we're all supposed to wait until May Sweeps to get some resolution... yawn.

Templeton

Hallie_Marie
02-09-2005, 11:20 PM
I'm not bored.

I think too many people see this show as a concept, rather than a dense, layered series. It's not all about the Big Mystery. Everybody just wants answers, but don't you like the wondering part? I dunno, I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the ride. This show is too well-done to be thought of as a smoke-and-mirrors trick. They've set enough lines out there to last them for a long, long time.

elfdream
02-09-2005, 11:21 PM
Dom has mentioned somewhat of where his character is going. Its on the spoiler board if anyone is interested.

I think we are going to end up not liking the people we formerly liked..and liking people we formerly DIDN'T like. I bet Shannon and Jin turn out to be really beautiful people.. :laugh:

jme
02-09-2005, 11:24 PM
I'm savoring the show just as I would a good book, or a fine wine.* * ;)

I guess I must not watch the same tv as everyone else, because I thought all shows
had alot of commercials, I never realized that LOST had more than other shows???* * ???

creme
02-10-2005, 12:46 AM
Right on, vos.

I agree Halle Marie.

Definitely not bored, don't understand why someone could think they are not taking risks, loved this episode, don't want the mysteries solved with pat solutions in the next episode and can't wait for more!

banshee
02-10-2005, 12:47 AM
I'd tend to agree vos...I mean Charlie has such a nice guy/sweet image despite his habit, & he has been kind of rebellious, but I think it was quite daring to have him go full on w/shooting Ethan. And not just once your dead but 5 times in obvious intent. Murder is a weighty word because Ethan did nearly kill Charlie, but none the less it was a definite act of revenge.

davec
02-10-2005, 12:53 AM
Don't understand the need to start two threads about how underwhelmed you were, so don't watch the show anymore.
I loved the show tonight and was totally engrossed. If you don't like the show, why watch it?

Templeton
02-10-2005, 01:09 AM
I think too many people see this show as a concept, rather than a dense, layered series. It's not all about the Big Mystery. Everybody just wants answers, but don't you like the wondering part? I dunno, I'm just gonna sit back and enjoy the ride. This show is too well-done to be thought of as a smoke-and-mirrors trick. They've set enough lines out there to last them for a long, long time.


I certainly hope the show proves to be a dense, layered series. The first few episodes were fantastic. They are going to have to complete one season successfully, however, before we can say for sure that it is going to live up to its promise. If the clues they are dropping lead to a cool set of plot resolutions and character development, that'll be terrific. They are currently juggling a lot of plot threads, and whether they will indeed manage to weave them together in a satisfying whole by the end of the season remains to be seen.

With Joss Whedon's shows, I was willing to take the story on faith, because, in most seasons, his team pulled the story together magnificently by season's end. That's not easy to do, though. Alias, for example, has had good years and bad years.

If the mysteries raised so far in Lost lead to the surprise and delight that result when a great story reaches its climax, then I'll be the first to stand up and cheer.

Templeton

lostdreamer29
02-10-2005, 01:16 AM
Not bored here, not at all. I thought this episode was fantastic! I am a talker (yes, a TV talker) I talk, scream, laugh, and cry to the TV, and I don't think I have ever talked (and all the*other things I mentioned) so much in one night! Brilliant! I really don't see how anyone could be bored with this.

Emmyjean
02-10-2005, 02:14 AM
Well, think about it...what if they have seven years left of this show? We can't actually expect them to resolve anything NOW, after half a season! I still see us in the buildup stage, and yes, I am using the X-Files as an example (mostly because it's the only other TV show I've ever followed but also because it's been compared several times). I don't have a problem with waiting a couple seasons for some huge payoffs (I've done it before), as long as there's a decent pot o' gold at the end of the rainbow, you know? ;)

I think it's better to look at it as one long, continuous story rather than judging it on an episode-by-episode basis. Any serial show is more enjoyable that way, in my opinion.

~Emmyjean

Roland
02-10-2005, 12:42 PM
I'm not even close to being bored. I've never been this excited about a tv show in my life. Lost is now my favorite tv series for all time (beating out my previous favorite Firefly). The mystery is the best part of the show.

jme
02-10-2005, 12:49 PM
Don't understand the need to start two threads about how underwhelmed you were, so don't watch the show anymore.
I loved the show tonight and was totally engrossed. If you don't like the show, why watch it?


BRAVO!!! If you don't like it, don't watch it, my sentiments exactly!!! Go davec, go davec!!! ;D

baryonyx
02-10-2005, 01:33 PM
Frankly, I hope Lost turns out a lot more like Babylon 5 in terms of its arc development and quality at the end, than the X-Files. I used the X-Files as an example of a show that built up a huge arc along the way... and then fizzled at the end. Homicide would also be an example of that, as much as I loved that show, the 7th season was just painful. Northern Exposure, less of an arc show, but one nonetheless, was pretty bad after Fleischman left. I'd mention The Sopranos, Nip/Tuck, and other cable shows as well as a potentially good example of arc development over several seasons, but they're not over yet... and it ain't over til it's over, and the end can be painful to watch, or a total sell-out (paging St. Elsewhere!)

In fact, in terms of pacing and development thus far, this show is a lot less boring and a lot more risk taking than most of the non-cable shows I've mentioned above.

Misplaced
02-10-2005, 02:30 PM
I think the writers already know how they are going to end the show. You just can't start a show like Lost without knowing where it's going. X-files was a great show, it just should have ended a few seasons earlier than it did. I just hope the writers of Lost know when to quit and not stay on for money. A good model would be the Sopranos, which is finished after season 6. It could have stayed on longer, but David Chase knows how to finish a show.

Malachy
02-10-2005, 02:53 PM
BRAVO!!!* If you don't like it, don't watch it, my sentiments exactly!!!* Go davec, go davec!!!* *;D


Lost Lappers Cliche #1: Exhibit 'A'

Next time, try to remember to add that "you like that the mysteries aren't solved, and appreciate the layers."

Emmyjean
02-10-2005, 07:55 PM
See, that's the thing though...say you're the creator/head writer of a show.* Then you want to end it after five seasons because you feel the story has played itself out.* You go to the network...and they say, "YOU can leave, but the show stays because it's making us a crapload of money".* You think to yourself...well, hell, I'd rather it be me than somebody else writing it! So you stay, you keep on with it...until everyone is talking about how it should have ended years ago, that it's played out, that it's a disappointment. That's what happens ALL the time.

I blame the networks for thinking more about the money than anything else, ie the fans, the story, the creative process, etc.

~Emmyjean

Me
02-10-2005, 08:01 PM
Turning one of the main characters and biggest fan favorites into a murderer right before our eyes seems like a pretty damn big risk to me.


My thought exactly!
Another vote for not bored! not in the least!