What does everyone think of her? They made a pretty big deal about her casting and it seems like she'll be a really important character.

It's hard to say after just one episode, but she kinda rubbed me the wrong way. I didn't really like her for some reason. She comes across as nice to Jack, but I think she's playing him - doing what Henry/Ben told her to do. Maybe since Jack is my favorite character that's why I don't like her!

There were a few parts where she kind of reminded me of Libby and it made me wish she was still around :(

I miss Libby. :frown:

Anyway, I'm not sure about Juliet yet. I don't trust her, but she obviously has "issues" with Benry. She might be persuaded to switch sides... hard to tell yet.

She's hotter than Kate, but I'd have to see her side by side with Sun to call that one !

Too soon to tell

I got the sense that Juliet is NOT happy. At the beginning when she puts on the music to get ready for the book club it is like she is about to cry and is pulling herself together.

What a strange scene that was.

I got the sense that Juliet is NOT happy. At the beginning when she puts on the music to get ready for the book club it is like she is about to cry and is pulling herself together.

What a strange scene that was.

Right, I forgot about that scene. There is obviously some tension between her and Ben/Henry.

We will see about this Juliet... she just better be nice to my Jack! :biggrin:

I got the sense that Juliet is NOT happy. At the beginning when she puts on the music to get ready for the book club it is like she is about to cry and is pulling herself together.

I noticed that as well. I really liked Juliet actually, and I'm really looking forward to more scenes between her and Jack. I think she was instructed to break Jack and while she did succeed, she seemed almost sarcastic when she said Thanks to Benry. It seems to me like she isn't exactly thrilled with Benry's leadership - do you remember how annoyed she got when someone at the book club said that Ben didn't like the book, and she immediately started going off about free will? There's definitely a lot of tension there, which I think makes her automatically sympathetic to Jack. It's too early to tell exactly where her loyalties lie, but I don't think she's exactly on the same page as Benry.

Did anyone else think when the show started that she looked exactly like Penny--Desmond's girlfriend?

Did anyone else think when the show started that she looked exactly like Penny--Desmond's girlfriend?
Thank-you!!!
That's who I thought she was at first. :redface:

Also, in the intro, he makes a remark about being out of the book club. Kinda felt like they were a divorced couple, or could have been just me!

Juliet seemed like a pale reflection of Jack's ex-wife. She really knew how to break Jack down psychologically. We'll have to wait and see more...

Did anyone else think when the show started that she looked exactly like Penny--Desmond's girlfriend?

I thought they looked similar.

I like her. She's softer than Sarah and she does seem to care about Jack, especially in this intense & emotional time for him. She doesn't seem to like Ben. Maybe she resents having to put Jack through the trauma. But I think she'll take care of him.

She has a sweet smile.

Did anyone else think when the show started that she looked exactly like Penny--Desmond's girlfriend?

I kinda thought she looked like Sarah, Jack's wife. Maybe there is a reason for that.

Ya I agree she was doing alot of mind games but I think she could actually develop feelings for Jack I can see that coming I also think she felt kinda bad messin with him. It's hard to say with just one episode but she definitly has issues with Ben. Maybe they once had a relationship or she no longer wishes to be a part of what they once started.

I thought Elizabeth Mitchell's performance was great. I think they finally found someone who can pull off the tough but tender female role that never worked out quite right with either Kate or Ana-Lucia.

Cardie

I think Juliette may already have feelings for Jack based on knowing/watching him from his file? Like it will develop into more of a reverse one sided Stockholm syndrome.

Otherwise I thought the performance was decent & it'll be interesting to watch her.

Also, in the intro, he makes a remark about being out of the book club. Kinda felt like they were a divorced couple, or could have been just me!

Yeah, someone mentioned that in another thread too. There is definitely some kind of history between them, though romantic or what, we'll have to wait and see!


I think Juliette may already have feelings for Jack based on knowing/watching him from his file? Like it will develop into more of a reverse one sided Stockholm syndrome.


I agree about the possibility of her developing a reverse Stockholm syndrome. You could kind of see that already in the way she put her hand on the glass renderly near the end of the episode.

Unless they have arranged marriages in Otherville, I can't imagine Juliet selecting Benry as her mate. Maybe he and Tom have a thing going, though. ;)

Cardie

I miss Libby. :frown:

Anyway, I'm not sure about Juliet yet. I don't trust her, but she obviously has "issues" with Benry. She might be persuaded to switch sides... hard to tell yet.

Her name is Juliet. Of course she'll switch sides! :)

Juliet seemed like a pale reflection of Jack's ex-wife. She really knew how to break Jack down psychologically. We'll have to wait and see more...

I think she knew how to break Jack down cause she had all his life's info.

Personally, I like Juliette. She did make me miss Libby tho :frown: . But She seems perfect for Jack, especially since she's a little similar to Sarah. Did it look to anyone else like Benry likes Juliette? I get the impression since Benry is the leader, he gets the girl he wants, and since she has no choice but to comply, Juliette just goes along with it.

ethan was fixing the plumbing at juliett's house. was there some type of relationship there?

I think the look of her face at the beginning at the episode said it all. She was unhappy and yearned to escape. There was that kid (probably one of DHARMA Initiative youths) who tried to help Sawyer escape later in the episode too.

There were a few parts where she kind of reminded me of Libby and it made me wish she was still around :(I'd swear she was her sister. And the way she spoke so softly and calmly to Jack, the way she got him to release his feelings -- almost like the "shrink" role Libby claimed she had. Heck, they almost look alike. It will be interesting to see Hurley's reaction when (if) he meets her.

Unless they have arranged marriages in Otherville, I can't imagine Juliet selecting Benry as her mate. Maybe he and Tom have a thing going, though. ;)

Cardie

LOL. I WAS THINKING THE EXACT SAME THING!!!

Kate isn't Tom's type and Tom's submissive but in awe of their leader Benry so there you go! Admiration slowly evolves into love on an island. lol

Also Juliet would never go with Benry. She just seems like she wants out of the Others and off the island. lol

Oh goodness, Juliet looks identical to the woman jacks dad was arguing with over seeing "the girl" in sydney. Compare the photos, I saw them on sledgewebs lost...stuff website, on the pics they freeze fram and analyze, look at the ones from season 2, anyone agree? I beleive the site is lost.cubit.net

Linkage, Desi?

Thank-you!!!
That's who I thought she was at first. :redface:

I at first thought this could be Sarah. The three actresses look alike.

I think we are being setup for later epi's to see Ben and Juliett disagree to the point where one of the following items might occur:

Juliett leaves the camp.
Juliett falls in love with Jack. Her name is Juliett after all.
Help the captured Losties escape
Revolt against Ben's leadership

Here's my basis what I saw:

Juliett doesn't seem happy on the island or with the way things are going. At the opening scene of the epi, she is crying and playing music to remind her of something and make her happy.

Right before the crash when the house begins shaking, Juliett is scolding a member of the book club who disagreed with the book choice and implied Ben would not stoop as low as too come. Juliett is in the middle of saying "Here I am thinking that free will still acutally exists on this...." and then the house shakes. When then find out Ben = Henry. Ben also seemed bummed to be booted out of book club. (theme being she is leading a group without him)

There is also a mean exchange of looks between Juliett and Ben when Jack has Juliett hostage. Jack says to open the door or she dies, and Ben says if he opens the door she dies anyway. Juliett gives Ben of look of shock, and then Ben locks her in the room.

At the end of the episode, Ben commends Juliett for her work. She replied quite rudely thanks.

The "others" are supposed to be good people. When Jack floods the hatch, Ben locks Juliet in with Jack to drown or survive. (I'm sure he new they'd survive. I don't think they are under water. Juliett was on land to catch Sawyer way too fast.)

Anyway, I just wondered if Juliett questions Ben's goodness and his actions as a leader. Or it could all be a setup.

Did anyone else think when the show started that she looked exactly like Penny--Desmond's girlfriend?

Juliet looks somewhat like Penny, but Juliet comes across as being more skin and bones.

Is there a chance that there are two Juliet's? It seemed like she was called Julia and Juliet at different times... which would explain some of the differing personalities and how she could be tracking sawyer so quickly after dealing with Jack....

Juliet basically:

talks like Libby
looks like a cross between Penny, Jack's ex, and the chick he hooked up with outside the hospital

I got the sense that Juliet is NOT happy. At the beginning when she puts on the music to get ready for the book club it is like she is about to cry and is pulling herself together.

What a strange scene that was.

I also got the feeling she was unhappy there. Maybe we will see her switch sides and go with the losties. I felt like at the beginning she was having doubts about this way of life or something, she just seemed so sad, and like you said, trying to pull herself together. I wonder though if she is pissed about Ethan's murder...

Is anyone else looking forward to scenes with both Juliet and Alex? If there is any possibility of a "rogue faction" within the Others' society, I would bet that they are at the core of it.

Juliet basically:

talks like Libby
looks like a cross between Penny, Jack's ex, and the chick he hooked up with outside the hospital

No wonder I like her so much!

I love Libby! I love Penny!

Therefore, I love Juliet!

Oh goodness, Juliet looks identical to the woman jacks dad was arguing with over seeing "the girl" in sydney. Compare the photos, I saw them on sledgewebs lost...stuff website, on the pics they freeze fram and analyze, look at the ones from season 2, anyone agree? I beleive the site is lost.cubit.net

They are two different actresses. Julie was played by Elizabeth Mitchell, and the mysterious Australian woman was played by Gabrielle Fitzpatrick.

Her name is Juliet. Of course she'll switch sides! :)

aha! I was looking for this to be mentioned! I think it could be significant that her name is Juliet! Is she destined to be a star-crossed lover? Very likely in my book! Any other Shakespeare references on file?

For the record, I like her.

I love Elizabeth Mitchell, I had hight hopes for her character and so far she didn't let me down at all, in the contrary! She is amazing! Ambiguous, smooth operator, sweet and miserable! What a character development we are about to withness!

I think Juliet speaks like Ellen Pompeo from Grey's Anatomy, and looks a bit like a mix between Carrie-Anne Moss from The Matrix and Ellen Pompeo... Her mannerisms and speaking tone is nearly identical to Meridith's.

aha! I was looking for this to be mentioned! I think it could be significant that her name is Juliet! Is she destined to be a star-crossed lover? Very likely in my book! Any other Shakespeare references on file?

For the record, I like her.

This may take all of Season 3 to develop, but Jack will fall for Juliet.....and then Jack will realize that Kate chooses him afterall.

I was surprised Juliet didn't automatically switch sides after Benry closed the door on her. I was sure that her and Jack where going to escape together.

Unless they have arranged marriages in Otherville, I can't imagine Juliet selecting Benry as her mate. Maybe he and Tom have a thing going, though. ;)

Cardie

Ha, Cardie! :biggrin:

Her name is Juliet. Of course she'll switch sides! :)

Good point.

Is there a chance that there are two Juliet's? It seemed like she was called Julia and Juliet at different times... which would explain some of the differing personalities and how she could be tracking sawyer so quickly after dealing with Jack....

No chance. Only Elizabeth Mitchell was cast as Juliet. As a spoiler reader, we've known this for a good long while.

Is anyone else looking forward to scenes with both Juliet and Alex? If there is any possibility of a "rogue faction" within the Others' society, I would bet that they are at the core of it.

I agree about Juliette and Alex and the rogue faction.

I think Juliet speaks like Ellen Pompeo from Grey's Anatomy, and looks a bit like a mix between Carrie-Anne Moss from The Matrix and Ellen Pompeo... Her mannerisms and speaking tone is nearly identical to Meridith's.

Someone else said this to me. I don't really see it, but that's probably because Elizabeth Mitchell has a nice, normal-sized figure, and Ellen Pompeo looks totally anorexic and speaks like a waif. (Not inteding to slander the actress in any which way, but that is my perception. And I do watch Grey's and enjoy it.)

I was surprised Juliet didn't automatically switch sides after Benry closed the door on her. I was sure that her and Jack where going to escape together.

Well, I think that this episode was a big set-up to us slowly learning more about the Others... and we've learned through Juliette that theire lives appear to be pretty darn comlicated and nothing is what it seems. There are many layers to their lives, and we understand very little. We don't know if she actually feels compassionate feelings toward Jack or not. I lean toward yes, but that doesn't change the fact that she's holding him captive and that she knocked him out cold after he tried to escape. It would be far too simplistic for TPTB to take us straight to her running off with him. They need to develop the storyline and her character a lot more before that can happen, if it does.

As for my opinions on Juliette... I love her! I was never that fond of Libby, although very curious to learn more about her backstory. I love Penny, though. And yes, all the three women look similiar, probably on purpose.
My favorite part was how she punched Jack. It was so cool and bold of her. Plus, I'm intrigued by her situation with Benry--whether they are exes or whatever is going on.

I think Juliet speaks like Ellen Pompeo from Grey's Anatomy, and looks a bit like a mix between Carrie-Anne Moss from The Matrix and Ellen Pompeo... Her mannerisms and speaking tone is nearly identical to Meridith's.

Holy crap, I knew I wasn't crazy for thinking of Meridith!

Thanks.

You can tell she is sick of the island by the opening scene. She has been crying, then puts on "Downtown". She realizes that she does not have a downtown to wash her sorrows away, because she has been on that island a while. She seems social by nature and is missing society.

Did anyone else think when the show started that she looked exactly like Penny--Desmond's girlfriend?

YES! i was like its penny! where is she? and then i was like wiat.....lol

No! Not Penny!

Hi...I'm new to the boards, but not new to lost. :biggrin: Last nights episode was amazing. My jaw was on the floor throughout the opening scene.

Anyway...my theory on Juliet is that she is Ben's (Henry) significant other and there marriage is strained to say the least.

Cant wait for next week!

Loved EM's performance in the premiere. Excellent casting choice, interesting character.

Hi...I'm new to the boards, but not new to lost. :biggrin: Last nights episode was amazing. My jaw was on the floor throughout the opening scene.

Anyway...my theory on Juliet is that she is Ben's (Henry) significant other and there marriage is strained to say the least.

Cant wait for next week!

Why does EVERYONE think they are married?

Imo, she's the best new character EVER on the show.

Sorry, Ellen Pompeo's pensive, constipated, navel-gazing, do-nothing, love-sick, adolescent, self-centered Meredith is nowhere near Juliet's league. Juliet is a full-grown woman.
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Why does EVERYONE think they are married?

Not everyone does. Over in the General Theory section, some of us are spec'ing they're siblings.

Not everyone does. Over in the General Theory section, some of us are spec'ing they're siblings.

Okay... I can live with that.

I am a... Jacket now. :biggrin: (Jack/Juliet ship LOL)

Why does EVERYONE think they are married?


The guy at the bookclub refers to Ben as the "host". I took that to mean it was his house. That, with all the interaction between the 2 throughout the episode leads me to believe theyre together.

I think it's significant that her name is Juliet! Is she destined to be a star-crossed lover? Very likely in my book!


That's possible.
My own notion is that Juliet is "little Julie", an homage to legendary Julie Adams, who played the older woman - her mother?
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The guy at the bookclub refers to Ben as the "host". I took that to mean it was his house.

Adam didn't say Ben was the host; he said the host (meaning Juliet) has the right to choose the book but Ben wouldn't have liked this book.

I didn't like Juliet. She seemed very uninteresting.

:frown: Does anyone else out there NOT like Juliet? I don't mean the character, but the person they cast. (No offense whatsoever to the actress!) Her demeanor is great and all, but this is totally just based on looks. A lot of people have already said she looks like Libby or Sara or Penny and that's exactly my point.
I mean, we're all pretty sure that this character will most likely develop into a love interest for Jack, so I just wish they would have cast someone who'd rival Kate's "different" beauty.

You can tell she is sick of the island by the opening scene. She has been crying, then puts on "Downtown". She realizes that she does not have a downtown to wash her sorrows away, because she has been on that island a while. She seems social by nature and is missing society.

See, I think she was born in Otherville, her mother Amelia (Julie Adams) having been one of the original Dharmans. That's why she's sad. Like Miranda in The Tempest, she's never seen the real world.

Love Jacket as the name for the new ship, btw.

Cardie

Juliet's favorite book is Carrie, which deals with telekinetic-ish powers. Perhaps Juliet herself has some kind of similar powers. That could be her reason for being on the island in the first place. (These powers are possible here, see Walt)

I hope I'm right

I felt Ben already feels her defiance...thus not caring whether Jack killed her or not. I think there's already been some friction between those two.

Burning the muffins...picking a popcorn novel that Ben would obviously disapprove of (ironically, he asks for a stephen king novel in season 2)...she obviously has been trying to fit in, but not doing a very good job. She'd probably rather be living in the city if the music she was listening holds true.

Juliet will be the weak link in Benry's plans...and what an unfortunate name since we all know what happened to Juliet in Shakespeare's play. Will Juliet end up sacrificing herself to save one or more of our castaways? :)

Did anyone else think when the show started that she looked exactly like Penny--Desmond's girlfriend?

Thank-you!! That's exactly what I thought.
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Juliet seemed like a pale reflection of Jack's ex-wife. She really knew how to break Jack down psychologically. We'll have to wait and see more...

Is that the girl they've always had playing Sarah? How did I miss that she's the one from Boston Legal? My husband pointed it out last night. I knew she looked familiar, but I thought it was from when I had seen her on Lost before.