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Herk
10-05-2006, 09:28 PM
One minute she was sitting at a table with a great breakfast in front of her and the next minute she's in a cage eating Sawyer's only cracker acting as if she hasn't eaten in years.

I don't get this. Is she playing Sawyer?

The only other option is that she opted not to eat Benry's food. That just can't be. Kate has again and again displayed self-preservation as a priority. Remember she gobbled down a candy bar or two while climbing around the hatch last season.

ginger
10-05-2006, 09:32 PM
I posted this on another thread. I don't think Kate got to eat her breakfast. Looks like this scene was cut. Go to Season 3 Picture 11.

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/galleries

diabolo237
10-05-2006, 09:32 PM
I think she was being nice to Sawyer's gesture, since he seemed concerned about her when he finally met up with her. I don't think its anything more than that.

Herk
10-05-2006, 09:38 PM
I think she was being nice to Sawyer's gesture, since he seemed concerned about her when he finally met up with her. I don't think its anything more than that.

A gesture would imply the cracker wasn't important to Sawyer. You think maybe he can have as many fish crackers as he wants? I mean he looked really needed when he flung himself to the ground to drink that water. I was thinking that cracker was really important to Sawyer. And Kate seemed to have an affair chewing on that bear treat, like it tasted oh so good.

kanzaki
10-05-2006, 09:40 PM
Probably because a lot has happened to Kate since breakfast but we won't see it until episode 303 or something.

beckyjc22880
10-05-2006, 09:43 PM
Sawyer didn't seem concerned at all actually, well maybe for a very fleeting moment, but then he kicked into hyper macho "Sawyer" mode thinking he's impressing someone when really he just looked like....a monkey in a cage. Kate seemed to fall for it too...or did she? I think she was looking at him with a look that meant one of a few things...
"I know what you're in for and you don't"
"Oh my god this is what I'm in for"
"Poor little macho man, so tough, and reduced to nothing" (most likely)
"Oh my god I want to eat your cracker" (probably not....in the literal sense anyway)
But lastly I think her look was simply defeated.

This isn't about the look is it? ...Yeah, she ate the cracker because she was hunhgry. Woo hoo.

lostmio
10-05-2006, 09:45 PM
And Kate seemed to have an affair chewing on that bear treat, like it tasted oh so good.

I agree, she was hungry, for sure. A lot more so than she would have been even if she had eaten the breakfast several hours earlier - which I doubt.

The point was well made that Kate far preferred a fish biscuit from Sawyer to an elegant meal from Ben.

erikab
10-05-2006, 10:02 PM
Sawyer didn't seem concerned at all actually, well maybe for a very fleeting moment, but then he kicked into hyper macho "Sawyer" mode thinking he's impressing someone when really he just looked like....a monkey in a cage. Kate seemed to fall for it too...or did she? I think she was looking at him with a look that meant one of a few things...
"I know what you're in for and you don't"
"Oh my god this is what I'm in for"
"Poor little macho man, so tough, and reduced to nothing" (most likely)
"Oh my god I want to eat your cracker" (probably not....in the literal sense anyway)
But lastly I think her look was simply defeated.

This isn't about the look is it? ...Yeah, she ate the cracker because she was hunhgry. Woo hoo.

i thought she looked funny when she came back from breakfast. i think she knows more than she's saying. like she might have an idea what they're in for.

RodimusBen
10-05-2006, 10:09 PM
lostmio, I agree completely. It was all about "I'd rather accept this glorified dog biscuit from Sawyer than a nice meal from evil Other man"

GettinLost
10-06-2006, 12:19 AM
I think she was looking at him with a look that meant one of a few things...
"I know what you're in for and you don't"
...Yeah, she ate the cracker because she was hunhgry. Woo hoo.
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I think you have something there... I think Benry told her what was going to happen over the next two weeks. Why did he ask her why she said 'Sawyer and Jack" the way he did??

I agree, she was hungry, for sure. A lot more so than she would have been even if she had eaten the breakfast several hours earlier - which I doubt.

Knowing Kate, she didn't eat any of Benry's food. She probably tried to escape at one point.

The point was well made that Kate far preferred a fish biscuit from Sawyer to an elegant meal from Ben.

I wondered if after the exchange between Zeke and Sawyer about how he got the fish bisquit, maybe she thought she should eat it.

Save The Humans
10-06-2006, 12:52 AM
Go to Season 3 Picture 11.
Someone else spotted Picture 11! :clap:

When Kate kept hammering Benry with questions, he realized that she was NOT going to play along with the "nice memory" thing, hungry as she might be. So he gave his little speech, got up. . .

And what we DIDN'T see (edited for time, I'd say, along with Kate saying she wasn't gonna eat this food/play along) was Benry walking away from the dining tent, nodding to Tom and that other Other dude, and they came over and grabbed Kate out of her chair. And then. . .

Well, hopefully we learn the "then" before her eppy, five long weeks from now!

So, no, Kate never ate a bite at the breakfast nook. Since we don't know how long a time passed between that scene and her being brought to the cage, I imagine she was starving by the time James tossed her the biscuit! And since it was JAMES, not Benry, giving her the food, she happily gnawed it up!

That's my take on it, anyway.

BurningStar4
10-06-2006, 12:54 AM
I think it was just supposed to show us that Kate would rather eat that nasty biscuit because it was from Sawyer, someone she knows and cares about, than eat a beautiful breakfast with a man she does not know and despises.

boredmale
10-06-2006, 07:05 AM
while we asking why she ate the cracker, why did she put on the handcuffs, personally i would have threw them in the ocean instead of eating

Herk
10-06-2006, 01:03 PM
I just don't trust Kate. She may be playing Sawyer.

jasoncountdown
10-06-2006, 01:34 PM
Its not a cracker, its a red herring. *cough*

HeatherLynn
10-06-2006, 05:46 PM
I think more importance should be placed on Ben asking her "Why Sawyer", and eventually she was reunited with him. Also, her hands were really chewed up from the cuffs when she was taken to the cage she was struggling because of ?, a significant chunk of time seems to have passed from breakfast. Additionally, Kate looks like she knows something that she can't tell Sawyer. Like they did something to her that is utterly unmentionable. it isn't often you see Kate on the verge of crying.

I think the others put them back together to see what kind of relationship they have. Ben obviously believes she's in love with one of them, but didn't know which one until breakfast.

bleeet
10-06-2006, 05:51 PM
Probably because a lot has happened to Kate since breakfast but we won't see it until episode 303 or something.exactly kate knows what is going to happen and see is worried

we will see and ben talked about in a later episode

Herk
10-06-2006, 06:30 PM
Ok, you guys have brought up some good points. Now I'm thinking that Ben put her in the cage near Sawyer because she "picked" him, pix #11 convinced me that she didn't get the breakfast, and that she may know more than we do what Ben meant by the next two weeks.

And, I'd do a lot for coffee so I don't see a problem with her putting on the cuffs.:redface:

And, I'm always looking for the *red herring* and the cracker was kinda reddish;)

Tachyon
10-06-2006, 06:56 PM
Its not a cracker, its a red herring. *cough*

HAHAHAHahaha. that's awesome

and i don't think kate is playing sawyer. i think it was just shown for the fact that sawyer cares about kate.

LockesFather
10-06-2006, 07:41 PM
Did she eat breakfast? I only recall him offering her coffee.

LostFan710
10-06-2006, 07:53 PM
I posted this on another thread. I don't think Kate got to eat her breakfast. Looks like this scene was cut. Go to Season 3 Picture 11.

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/galleries

Hmm. Thanks for showing this. In my opnion Kate didn't want Ben's breakfast so she was hungry when she go into the cage that she took the cookie.

MistressAntique
10-06-2006, 07:53 PM
lostmio, I agree completely. It was all about "I'd rather accept this glorified dog biscuit from Sawyer than a nice meal from evil Other man"

I agreee 100%.....I think that was the whole point of that scene.....she has trust for Sawyer.

i_heart_hurley
10-06-2006, 08:19 PM
lostmio, I agree completely. It was all about "I'd rather accept this glorified dog biscuit from Sawyer than a nice meal from evil Other man"

I agree with that!

and also maybe sawyer knew he could get more bisquits by rigging the thing again....and gave kate his because she probably looked hungry?

MinnieVanMommie
10-11-2006, 12:32 PM
of course she has trust for sawyer...why would she not? He is her only friend there...she ate the cracker because she didn't eat that bfast...

Sanderholm
10-11-2006, 03:15 PM
I posted this on another thread. I don't think Kate got to eat her breakfast. Looks like this scene was cut. Go to Season 3 Picture 11.

http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/galleries

Omg you guys are insane!
The pic is showing when she first sat down at the table.
Probably some time elapsed between the breakfast and the biscuit!
Who says the two weeks hasn't already passed?

Fiver
10-11-2006, 03:21 PM
I think it also demonstrates Sawyer's feelings for Kate. In the past, he's made a point of harding up and controlling whatever resources are available. This time he gave Kate the only fish biscuit he had. He loves her. :biggrin:

Noeland
10-11-2006, 03:37 PM
The pic is showing when she first sat down at the table.

Look at her left wrist. She has the cuffs on, which means it's not from when she sits down, and she sits down by herself if memory serves, no one helped her down into the seat.

My thoughts, she did not eat breakfast, and she took the cuffs because cuffs can be used as a weapon. A very effective way to choke a person, and one weapon is better than no weapons.

I think she either ran, and they had to drag her down the beach, or she attacked one of the others and tried to choke him with the chain of her cuffs.

I assumed from the first second she got back that she didn't eat breakfast, and I really liked that Sawyer gave her that fish biscuit. That goes to shwo that sawyer cares for her, and will be there to protect her, or save her, or avenge her. In the same way, we all know she is capable of doing the same.

They are both the kind of people who can bring the pain when needed. Sawyer has the bad luck of being the shows punching bag, I hope that trend ends soon.

penyours
10-11-2006, 03:39 PM
Omg you guys are insane!
The pic is showing when she first sat down at the table.
Probably some time elapsed between the breakfast and the biscuit!
Who says the two weeks hasn't already passed?

It's definitely not when Kate first sits diwn. The Pic shoews Tom and some other guy suurounding Kate in her chair. When she first sits down, she walks to the hut alone and Benry pulls the chair out for her.

Herk
10-11-2006, 04:14 PM
Who says the two weeks hasn't already passed?

Are you new??? Times moves very slow on our island. It'll be Easter before 2 weeks pass on that craphole island.

I'm thinking that absolutely no time has passed and if Kate was aloud to and chose to eat the lovely egg breakfast with coffee she should have been full when she ate the fish cracker.

What I think most posters here agree with is that she did NOT eat Henry's breakfast. She will not have that something nice to hold on to.

I agree that Sawyer offered the cracker because he loves and trusts her but I still don't trust Kate.

runemuse
10-11-2006, 06:51 PM
Who says the two weeks hasn't already passed?



Sawyer's beard.

TheHydra
10-11-2006, 07:31 PM
Isn't Kate submiting to Sawyer after all of his failed previous attempts to console her? I think she is giving up one of her walls and allowing herself to trust Sawyer. Which she has had an issue with males and trust
?

Tachyon
10-11-2006, 08:00 PM
Times moves very slow on our island. It'll be Easter before 2 weeks pass on that craphole island.



hahaha, unfortunately, sooo true.

but i think it's very possible that she ate the breakfast and enough time has passed where she is hungry again. i mean, i don't know if i agree with what i just said, but if there's enough time to "torture" her, then there's enough time to get hungry again. i know i get hungry every 20 minutes... ;)

but in my opinion, i think she's that hungry because she didn't eat the breakfast. but it is a very plausible possibility that she's just really really hungry again.

lostfan88
10-15-2006, 09:43 PM
I've been curious to know if the fish biscuit, cracker, cookie, whatever you want to call it tastes like fish. Maybe it's simply an overgrown goldfish cracker. This is probably a crazy, nagging question but I was just wondering because a cracker that tastes like raw fish doesn't sound all that appetizing to me, though I suppose if you're hungry enough...

Herk
10-16-2006, 02:20 PM
I've been curious to know if the fish biscuit, cracker, cookie, whatever you want to call it tastes like fish. Maybe it's simply an overgrown goldfish cracker. This is probably a crazy, nagging question but I was just wondering because a cracker that tastes like raw fish doesn't sound all that appetizing to me, though I suppose if you're hungry enough...

Kate did say that sawyer tasted like fish.

igotlost92
10-16-2006, 05:30 PM
Yeah, I am not so sure if she ate the food the others gave her or not...hmm...I wonder what did happen? I wonder if we will ever find out what Kate and Ben talked about. Well...at least Sawyer shared it!

applecrush
10-17-2006, 08:53 AM
I've been curious to know if the fish biscuit, cracker, cookie, whatever you want to call it tastes like fish. Maybe it's simply an overgrown goldfish cracker. This is probably a crazy, nagging question but I was just wondering because a cracker that tastes like raw fish doesn't sound all that appetizing to me, though I suppose if you're hungry enough...


maybe the cracker tastes like COOKED fish....

Herk
10-17-2006, 11:54 AM
maybe the cracker tastes like COOKED fish....

I am quite sure that the cracker was produced by an animal food producer like Kennalration but it came in a box with a Dharma logo on it.

Fiver
10-17-2006, 01:06 PM
Kate did say that sawyer tasted like fish.

Sad irony for the losties that the only food available tastes like fish - the only food source that they have plenty of all the time.

lostfan88
10-17-2006, 03:57 PM
I assumed it'd taste a raw fish since it was meant for bears. *shrugs*

Herk
10-17-2006, 05:54 PM
Most (probably all) processed food is cooked. Raw food goes bad and gets you really sick.

and

Kate tasted like strawberries? Either there's strawberries on the island or Sawyer was romantisizing.