View Full Version : Benry and the Others to get flashbacks?
Mr. Wicked 10-06-2006, 06:20 PM We've now seen the Others have a "group" flashback (mostly Juliet) so I wonder if we'll ever see more...
The Tailies got a Flashback Episode that showed what they had been up to... will we see the others get one? One that at least shows their POV from the crash up to now?
Will we see Benry's tale....
Will we see Ethan and Goodwin reporting back to Ben...
wentwj 10-06-2006, 06:22 PM I'd guess we'd get flashbacks at some point, but I'm not sure when and how. Defently not in the first part of the season, and I'd bet we don't get one until near the end of the season or next season (like desmond last season, it started with des and ended with des).
I also think other flashbacks might be... odd... unless we somehow come to accept the others as less evil than they currently seem (atleast as a whole).
mgarbs 10-06-2006, 06:36 PM I think , going buy the guest characters list, that we might get one in episode seven.
It would be a great way to get the show going again after the huge break. And didnt the people behind the show promise flashbacks for new characters, maybe they meant the Others
Mr. Wicked 10-06-2006, 06:43 PM I agree - It will probably be saved for the season finale.
I also think that (much like the one we saw) it will bee Juliet-centric.
Werthead 10-06-2006, 07:24 PM Henry and Juliet seem to be new regular characters (as opposed to recurring characters), so I'd put money on them getting flashbacks the same as Ana-Lucia and Eko did last year. My money for the finale is that it will be the occasionally hinted-at 'Big Island Flashback', which will cover the whole DHARMA Initiative project through a variety of flashbacks from different characters.
Weeping_Buddha 10-06-2006, 08:27 PM Something tells me we're going to see Juliet's very soon...
LostFan710 10-06-2006, 09:00 PM Something tells me we're going to see Juliet's very soon...
Do you know something I don't know???:drowsy:
Get_A_Klugh 10-08-2006, 06:51 AM I eventually want to see flashback episodes for Alex and Miss Klugh.
do_it_for_johnny 10-08-2006, 06:51 PM I really want to see Ethan's flashback and figure out his backstory. I know we got a little snippet from the episodes regarding Claire and the baby.... but why would Ethan go from that nice little village to kiddnapping Claire, trying to kill Charlie, and killing some of the other survivors from the fuselage? The only instructions he got from Ben was to become one of the survivors, not get involved, and to get a list in 3 days, right? So far he's the only extremely violent Other we've seen. At least, who's character has been develped adequately so far.
RodimusBen 10-08-2006, 08:27 PM I want Others flashbacks or flashbacks of the earlier history of the island. Because frankly I'm starting to get a little sick of flashbacks with the same characters. It started out as a good way to give us some information on the characters, but now it seems like a time-wasting / delaying tacitc.
yoyoj06 10-08-2006, 09:28 PM in my opinion, i am 95% sure the others get a flashback, not just a group one, but individual ones like everyone else
bumpygrimes 10-08-2006, 10:58 PM Like someone posted a few days ago, they need to do an episode called "The OTHER 48 Days" where it shows what the Others have been up to since the plane crash. I'd love to see what they were saying, thinking, and doing when they went to kidnap the survivors of the tail section, as well as see exactly what Ethan and Goodwin had to see when they reported back to the suburbia.
ameryth74 10-09-2006, 03:32 PM I really want to see Ethan's flashback and figure out his backstory. I know we got a little snippet from the episodes regarding Claire and the baby.... but why would Ethan go from that nice little village to kiddnapping Claire, trying to kill Charlie, and killing some of the other survivors from the fuselage? The only instructions he got from Ben was to become one of the survivors, not get involved, and to get a list in 3 days, right? So far he's the only extremely violent Other we've seen. At least, who's character has been develped adequately so far.
Let's not forget that Alex told Claire that she had to escape because THEY WERE GOING TO KILL HER after they took the baby... that doesn't sound like "the good guys" to me... why wouldn't they just keep her? Also... just occured to me but I'm at work, so I can't re-watch right now... do we see any of the now known "others" in that operating room?
Lobby 10-09-2006, 04:35 PM I really want to see Ethan's flashback and figure out his backstory. I know we got a little snippet from the episodes regarding Claire and the baby.... but why would Ethan go from that nice little village to kiddnapping Claire, trying to kill Charlie, and killing some of the other survivors from the fuselage? The only instructions he got from Ben was to become one of the survivors, not get involved, and to get a list in 3 days, right? So far he's the only extremely violent Other we've seen. At least, who's character has been develped adequately so far.
When we finally see Ethan's actions in context (in a flashback) I think we will be surprised. There is no evidence that Ethan killed the man on the beach or meant to kill Claire (as some posters claim). Yes, he beat up Charlie but maybe he didn't mean for Charlie to hang that long or die. Maybe the smoke monster did it all. We just don't know what happened.
Flashbacks showed that Ethan had feelings for Claire and Claire appeared to like him in return. Yes, she was drugged and when we first see her in the Maternity Ward flashback she thinks she has not yet left for California. But she is telling the truth when she tells Ethan she is traveling that late in her pregnancy because she is going to give her baby to a family in California. Since she was willing to give her baby to strangers she knew absolutely nothing about why would Ethan think she was not serious when she said she wanted Ethan’s family to have the baby? She might have been drugged when she offered the child to Ethan but she was not drugged when she agreed to give the baby to strangers. From Ethan’s perspective, all the “sedative” had done was alter her sense of time. Ethan even gave her a chance to back out if she wasn’t convinced it wasn’t best for the baby but Claire assured him she wanted him to have the baby.
I think we will see that Ethan was not a bad man. Juliet was not afraid of him. He had been working on her plumbing for some time (it’s a work in progress he said). When we first see Juliet Ethan is alone at the house with her and neither she or the older woman showed any signs of being concerned about this. I think Juliet had broken up with someone (probably Ben) and no longer had a man to help when things broke down. Ethan stepped in to help her out even though he was a doctor not a plumber. I think that scene with him under the house was sweet.
I think Ethan was genuinely concerned about the baby. We don’t yet know what the serum does but the Others and the Hatch people thought it was necessary. When Ethan found Claire she was in labor and he wanted to get her to a medical facility ASAP even though he knew Ben was going to be pissed. I doubt if the Others used the Staff Hatch; it was hastily assembled to deliver the baby. Charlie tried to stop Ethan from helping Claire and the only way he could stop him from interfering was to hang him up from the tree. We don’t know if he intended to do any permanent damage to Charlie.
From Ethan’s perspective he liked Claire and Claire liked him. Claire wanted his family to have the baby. Then these beach bums break into his house (hatch) and steal Claire away even as she calls out to him for help. Of course Ethan was upset. These people were stealing his family. No wonder he became violent.
Who stole Claire? From Charlie’s perspective it was Ethan but from Ethan’s perspective it was Charlie and his gang of cast a ways. Ethan might have tried to kill (maybe mistakenly) Charlie but Charlie did kill Ethan deliberately. Just some things to think about.
lowclass 10-09-2006, 05:17 PM When we finally see Ethan's actions in context (in a flashback) I think we will be surprised....
Woah man, like Ethan much? Pesonally i believe a homicidal and the others are evil. I don't think we need to see their Other 48 days, because it would just show us stuff we mostly knew already. I hate how the show does this and tries to justify it by having recurring cameos. Any flashback of the others would reveal so much I don't think they could get away with it and still keep the mystique. They'll most likely show Ben's, since he's in all the cast photos. He CAN'T be good, why is he in these pictures.
I'm more interested in seeing Alex's flashback reveal who the others are.
Did I mention ethan is pure evil
He11FiRe 10-09-2006, 05:26 PM Ethan threatened Jack by saying if he didn't quit following him, he would "kill one of them", implying Charlie or Claire. The fact that anyone could claim that Ethan wasn't the one who hung Charlie from the tree is just ludicrous. Of course he did, he said he was going to.
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Woah man, like Ethan much? Pesonally i believe a homicidal and the others are evil. I don't think we need to see their Other 48 days, because it would just show us stuff we mostly knew already. I hate how the show does this and tries to justify it by having recurring cameos. Any flashback of the others would reveal so much I don't think they could get away with it and still keep the mystique. They'll most likely show Ben's, since he's in all the cast photos. He CAN'T be good, why is he in these pictures.
I'm more interested in seeing Alex's flashback reveal who the others are.
Did I mention ethan is pure evil
Alex was stolen as a very young child, so it's doubtful she would have a flashback of her own. Not one that goes far enough back to fully describe her capture.
Lobby 10-09-2006, 05:31 PM Let's not forget that Alex told Claire that she had to escape because THEY WERE GOING TO KILL HER after they took the baby... that doesn't sound like "the good guys" to me... why wouldn't they just keep her?
How do we know they (the Others) were going to kill Claire? We only know what Alex thought which may or may not be true.
I saw people (doctors?) preparing to do surgery of some sort. They were using sterile technique. If they intended to kill Claire, they would not have bothered with a sterile environment and surgical instruments designed to minimize damage. The baby didn't need it; the masks, gloves, covered (sterile?) instruments are only there for the mother to prevent the incision from becoming infected. On second thought I can see that doctors would need gloves and head gear to prevent exposure to blood and other body fluids. Still I don't think they would need all the other gear I saw. I need a closer look at the DVDs tonight.
Ethan had also prepared Claire for what was going to happen after the birth. He explained that he was going to miss her but she had to go back to her friends after the baby was born. Why bother to do that if she was going to be killed? In that case Ethan would have told her they were all going to live happy ever after.
I think that Alex misunderstood what happened during a cesarean. Maybe the concept of a baby being cut out of the mother was so violent to her that it could only mean the mother was meant to die.
This tells us that Alex did not trust the people involved. This disturbs me more than anything. Maybe she does not understand how she was born. Maybe she thought her mother was killed just as Claire was going to be killed.
Too often in Lost we get just one side of the story and forget there is another side. Too often we take what others say as the truth without questioning it.
Get_A_Klugh 10-09-2006, 06:06 PM Let's not forget that Alex told Claire that she had to escape because THEY WERE GOING TO KILL HER after they took the baby... that doesn't sound like "the good guys" to me... why wouldn't they just keep her?
That's exactly why we need an Alex-centric episode.
Obviously, as He11Fire said, Alex wouldn't retain the earliest memories of her abduction from Danielle's cave as a baby....but it would still be fascinating to see flashbacks of Alex being raised by The Others as a young girl, as well as seeing her entire perspective of Claire's kidnapping and what information Alex was privy to.
BillToons 10-11-2006, 12:48 PM I'd have to say a Ben flashback would be most revealing of this situation so it would probably be last.
I'm sick to death of Jack flashbacks... please NO more. We know his marriage sucked, his father was an alcoholic let's stop beating this horse.
Dupin 10-11-2006, 04:06 PM I think maybe when we come back from the break, 3.07 may be Juliet-Centric. Remember, in season two, Rose/Bernard and Desmond had flashbacks at a guest star status, so we don't have to cross out an Alex/Tom/Bea flashback.
Or even new addition Nikki and Paulo...I think we may get a flashback from them at some point
Marcus 10-11-2006, 07:23 PM Okay, I think it's WAY too early for this, but here are my predictions: ;)
301 - Jack
302 - Sun / Jin
303 - Locke
304 - Sawyer
305 - Eko
306 - Kate
307 - Juliet
308 - Charlie
309 - Nikki / Paulo
310 - Sayid
311 - Claire
312 - Hurley
313 - Desmond
314 - Locke
315 - Sun / Jin
316 - Alex
317 - Tom
318 - Sawyer
319 - Kate
320 - Nikki / Paulo
321 - Jack
322 - Juliet
323 - Ben
mugglecastlover31 10-11-2006, 09:03 PM I would really love to see a Ben flashback. I think that his flashback might reveal the most. Other Others I'd like to see a flashback of would be Ethan and Goodwin. I do think that they aren't nice people, but there has got to be more to their characters.
I just wanna' know why Ethan seems all helpful and domesticated in suburbia...and then when he's in the jungle I think he's all RAMBO'd out!
No doubt; this guy was in full cold-blooded homicidal rage mode.
The way he interacted with Claire may explain it, but when he talked to Jack...he's a killer.
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also, it may seem strange; but i don't wanna' see a Ben flashback any sooner than the season finale because i think it would be premature.
John Burger 10-15-2006, 11:49 PM I want someone to have flashback they are not in..or a flashfoward
what?:)
DramaQueen317 10-16-2006, 04:33 PM I really want to see Ethan's flashback and figure out his backstory. I know we got a little snippet from the episodes regarding Claire and the baby.... but why would Ethan go from that nice little village to kiddnapping Claire, trying to kill Charlie, and killing some of the other survivors from the fuselage? The only instructions he got from Ben was to become one of the survivors, not get involved, and to get a list in 3 days, right? So far he's the only extremely violent Other we've seen. At least, who's character has been develped adequately so far.
I would love for a whole show to be Ethan motivated! That's a flashback I'm actually interested in.
tcdrtw 10-17-2006, 02:01 PM I really want to see Ethan's flashback and figure out his backstory.
Anyone know if Ethan was in the Jack flashback where his wife (Ethan's or Ethan lookalike's) died in surgery. It may have been the one where Jack's father caused the mistake or death due to the drinking?
latca 10-17-2006, 02:18 PM Yeah I think since some of the Others have Cast status and the producers have said that Season 3 is focusing on the Others, we should hopefully see some flashbacks.
JeremyBender 10-18-2006, 08:21 PM Because frankly I'm starting to get a little sick of flashbacks with the same characters. It started out as a good way to give us some information on the characters, but now it seems like a time-wasting / delaying tacitc
[wild sustained applause from me] Yes. YES. Based on casting info, we might get ANOTHER Jack flashback in 0308/09 which would suckI liked the S3 premiere a lot except for Jack's flashbacks, which could have been handled in about 45 seconds of him sitting in a therapists office or something.
Charlie's has to be about what happened after that nice, sweet plumber Ethan gently put him in a tree, the better for Kate and Jack to find him. :) OK, I mainly want to see William Mapother in a wet shirt again, but still. :)
Unless they show them being directly connected with DHARMA people --like Kelvin and Sayid-- more Kate and Sawyer flasZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. Criminals, on the run, but with hearts of gold, let's move on, please? Pretty please?
Ben would be great as a season finale flashback subject.
Dezdmona 10-18-2006, 08:30 PM I'm curious about Juliet whether she, too has always been on the Island and if not; what her prior life was like.
What is her real relationship with Ben?
Chromodynamic 10-22-2006, 08:09 AM Do you know something I don't know???:drowsy:
http://www.spoilerfix.com - Enter at your own peril.
Finn Buzzing 10-22-2006, 01:20 PM They gotta give Benry a flashback, he's the best thing to happen to Lost! He is genius!
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