Its probably obvious from most of my posts that Charlie is my fave character. I'm worried that he may be the next to go. Lost-tv has a link to an article quoting Dom as saying he gets fed up with being on a show with such a large cast because the battle for screentime is so political. If he's getting disgruntled then Charlie could be on the way out.:frown: Not that I can blame the guy. Charlie fans have complained for some time about his lack of screen time.

Was this a recent article? I wouldn't worry too much. Terry was quite frustrated with how Locke was written in S2 and I doubt he's going anywhere any time soon. So, I doubt TPTB would off Charlie because of Dom expressing frustration.

Dominic's the reason that many people even started watching the show. They wouldn't just give him the boot.

I agree, DieEthan. I had once heard that as long as Dom came out of his trailer, I believe, that he'd have a job. Now, personally, I don't think any actor should be more secure than the next, but I still don't see them killing him off any time soon or for being honest with his feelings.

Although this is a recent quote on tv.com, the original quote is from a Newsweek magazine article from May 2006 around the time of the season finale(I have the magazine around here someplace). Anyway, the quote is taken out of context, and from my memory of the original article, it didn't sound as bad and made sense in the original context.

Don't worry lostfan. The people who took that quote and reused it should be flogged. Here's the Newsweek article (http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12776785/site/newsweek/) from last May where he said it (thanks teerose!) Ironically, it was the same one where Naveen said he wasn't feeling well and refused to even speak to the reporter, and everyone speculated that he was upset because he was going to die in the finale!

ETA: I should point out for the sake of discussion on your thread topic that I was plenty scared he was going this year too. His unexplained cancellation of his Conan appearance, his overall absence from the media this year, and the lack of mention of what his storyline may be had me concerned among other things. But I'm calming down now. I don't know if it's reassuring or not, but I think he's more likely to be back burnered again than he is to be killed. I see other characters having more death potential than Charlie right now.

I don't believe he's immune however. Whatever JJ said in September 2004 about Dom always having a spot on the show can't possibly still hold. We've seen how they've changed gears with characters and plot as the show develops. They can't stick themselves in a hole with a statement like that about any character.

The main concern I have is that if Charlie is backburnered again, Dom may ask to leave the show. I wouldn't blame him.

That might be their strategy. :wink1:

Seriously though I think if anyone leaves the show it will probably be Eko.

^ Yeah I've read that a few times.

Well with all the recent talks of the 3rd season having a focus on romance and relationships I was hoping that the Claire/Charlie relationship would be one of the focal points...I really enjoy seeing those two and I really felt for Charlie in the 1st season when Claire came back and couldn't remember anything post-crash...and again in the 2nd season when he was 'kicked out of the house' so to speak...hopefully after getting on Claires good side for a third time, third times a charm and he doesn't screw it up with lies and hallucinations.

I hope Charlie sticks around and isn't killed off becasue Dom has a problem with the show

As Pace points out, Dom's comments were taken waaay out of context.

But I do worry about Charlie as well... although my optimistic side is hoping that they backburnered him last year in order to spring some "omg Charlie is actually really important!" twist on us at some point. *fingers crossed*

I'm one of those fans who probably never would've come to the show if not for Dom. Now I love the whole show, but if Charlie was gone... I have to admit my interest might wane.

I agree Shapeshifter. I think my interest may wane if Charlie goes as well.

I don't know if this means anything but he just said the following in a recent interview (http://www.khaleejtimes.com/CityHome.asp?xfile=data/citytimes/2006/October/citytimes_October46.xml&section=citytimes&col=). Sounds like the bloom is off the rose. Is he preparing himself for something he may suspect?:

Monaghan could end up adding plenty more meat to Charlie's bones if "Lost" remains as popular in the future as it is now. However, the actor hesitates when asked if he's prepared for another few years of playing Charlie.
"Who knows?" he says. "It all depends on how things go. The end of the show could come this season, next season or in a few years. They could kill off Charlie. And for me, in terms of how ready I am, that answer changes every day. Some days you love it and could do it forever, and some days you're just done with it. We're just going to have to wait and see.
"I'm 29 years old," Monaghan continues. "I have a lot of things I want to achieve, both in the acting world and outside of it. Right now 'Lost' is an amazing thing, and I'm really grateful for all the opportunities I've gotten from it and how much fun I've had doing the show. But I might feel differently about that in two weeks' time or in two years' time.
"I might misbehave and throw a tantrum on stage and refuse to look people in the eye and not shake people's hands, and they might kick me off," he says. "Stranger things have happened."

I don't know if this means anything but he just said the following in a recent interview (http://www.khaleejtimes.com/CityHome.asp?xfile=data/citytimes/2006/October/citytimes_October46.xml&section=citytimes&col=). Sounds like the bloom is off the rose. Is he preparing himself for something he may suspect?:

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The thing is though we've seen similar sentiments expressed by Naveen, AAA etc. Harold as well.

I think its because some of those people were primarily movie actors. They do a project..they move on. Dom had done TV before but it was British TV which is a slightly different animal from American TV. I'm pretty sure Harold was ready to 'move on' (and we see he got work almost right away) and I don't think Naveen would cry if Sayid were to die. That guy is always doing side projects and we already knew that AAA wasn't all that interested but was basically 'talked' into doing the show. His heart is apparently in production and behind the scenes work.

Dom has always been a restless spirit in real life. He doesn't really have a 'home base' although he probably spent more time in Manchester than anywhere else but he doesn't seem to be in a big hurry to go back there. The fact that he has spent three years on a TV show with no end in sight might be a bit overwhelming to someone who has been basically 'rootless' most of his life.

When you get down to it..its a job like every other job and there are good days and bad days. Some days he enjoys it...some days he probably just wants to walk away..like most of us at one time or another.

The bloom might be off the rose...but I don't know if we can take anything out of those articles seeing as we have seen other actors express similar things.

Don't know if that makes anyone feel any better but that's my take on it.

Don't know if that makes anyone feel any better but that's my take on it

Made me feel better. :biggrin:

I think Charlie is too popular of a character to kill off anyway. Lets be honest all the characters they've killed off so far have been mostly peripheral expendable characters, e.g. characters they introduced in season 2 such as Libby. Charlie has been set up as an important character IMO.

I actually think that Charlie wasn't too ard done by season 2. After the main characters who get most screentime such as Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Locke, Charlie doesn't do too badly.

Made me feel better. :biggrin:

I think Charlie is too popular of a character to kill off anyway. Lets be honest all the characters they've killed off so far have been mostly peripheral expendable characters, e.g. characters they introduced in season 2 such as Libby. Charlie has been set up as an important character IMO.

I actually think that Charlie wasn't too ard done by season 2. After the main characters who get most screentime such as Jack, Kate, Sawyer and Locke, Charlie doesn't do too badly.

True a lot of characters got less screentime going from season 1 to 2. Charlie, Sawyer, Kate and Sayid all went down from 2 (or even three) FBs to 1. While I think Sawyer and Kate stayed in the thick of the main story and scenes, Sayid and Charlie both sat on the sidelines a lot, while Jin/Sun got two flashbacks and Hurley got two.

Charlie may not have done too badly relative to the other minor characters but the thing was in season 1 he wasn't minor. He was involved in all the main plots through almost the entire season. Jack, Kate and Charlie were the top three characters in the pilot and Charlie was heavily involved not only in his own drug story but in the cockpit search, the french transmission/polar bear hike, the hike to the caves, the Ethan story, the search for Rousseau, Boone's death, Aaron's birth and Aaron's rescue. He had a lot going on in season one. Season two was considerably less and any plot that he was involved in (the balloon trek, the drug plane, the church building) was fleeting or peripheral.

But I think that was the problem with Season 2 in general, the fact that character development and story continuity were the sacrifical lambs to the mythology and the air schedule. I'm hoping those things improve in Season 3 and that it is not too late to rehabilitate Charlie's character. Sometimes with that much neglect, it's hard to bring the audience back around to caring. It seems like much of the audience doesn't care about Charlie or the C/C romance. You never hear talk about it in the mainstream media, it's all Jate/Skate/Locke, etc. I would like it if there was some buzz because to a certain extent the writers are going to give the people what they want. If people stopped caring, it's because the writers did their characters a disservice.

I never have understood why major media hasn't taken more notice of C/C. If they got as much press as J/K/S we'd probably see more of them on the show.

... But I think that was the problem with Season 2 in general, the fact that character development and story continuity were the sacrifical lambs to the mythology and the air schedule. I'm hoping those things improve in Season 3 and that it is not too late to rehabilitate Charlie's character ....

Amen to that!! As a fan who watches more because of the characters and not as much for the island mysteries, I was in general pretty disspointed with season 2. Definatly still loved it, but I thought it was a step down from season 1. I really hope to see more of all the characters who don't get nearly enough screen time this season. I hope it imporves as well! ... especially for Charlie and Claire :)

I don't really understand why the Charlie Claire relationship doesn't get more attention either. It has been set up from the begining as one of the major "romance" stories and several of the writers have said it's their favorite to write for/watch play out. You'd think that since it's such popular thing for them, they'd try to focus more attention on it. With the promise of more romace this season, I'm hoping that their relationship will get some more spot light this season. And thus more screen time for both Charlie and Claire who were definatly left out quite a bit last season.

I hope not. I love Charlie and I love Claire

Considering what Jin did to Jae Lee, I hope Jin never finds out that Charlie was responsible for attacking Sun. I'm thinking of Locke's punch times a hundred.

I love Charlie and would hate to see him go.

I'm not surprised the media doesn't pay more attention to Charlie/Claire. It all comes down to what, or in this case, who is marketable.

With Jack/Kate/Sawyer, all three actors are huge draws when it comes to the media. They are splashed across countless magazine covers, do major interviews, talk show appearances, etc. They make up 3 of the 4 main popular players on the show (Locke being the 4th). They get major screentime. The media eats that stuff up with a spoon.

And while Dom can get the same sort of attention, Emilie does not. She just isn't as marketable as the actors who have a bigger place on the show. Claire is more of a 3rd tier character on the show. The media will go where the money and interest is. It's not Charlie/Claire. Heck, Sun/Jin get more media attention than C/C.

And while Dom can get the same sort of attention, Emilie does not. She just isn't as marketable as the actors who have a bigger place on the show. Claire is more of a 3rd tier character on the show. The media will go where the money and interest is. It's not Charlie/Claire. Heck, Sun/Jin get more media attention than C/C.

Dom is and will forever be immortalized as a major character in the LoTR series. Lost has propelled him even further. Give Claire and Charlie some time....I'm sure that pretty soon they will be gracing the covers of TV/Movie related magazines, gaining interviews on shows and enjoying the limelight.

no chance he will be the next to go...i feel his character has a lot more left to do, we havn't reached Charlies main story yet

no chance he will be the next to go...i feel his character has a lot more left to do, we havn't reached Charlies main story yet
I just hope that we get to a main storyline for Charlie soon.

I'll be so disappointed if they let him go. But Dom seems really likeable and with Ev Lily there I doubt Dominic or TPTB would want his character killed off. I think they take the challenge to do something with him to redeem him. I am pretty pissed that Barbie and Ken are taking valuable screen time that could go to Charlie, though.

I admit I was really nervous at the beginning of this season that Charlie was high on the death list. Now that the season is shaping up (and Eko was first to go) it seems to me that the ones high on the death list for this season are Ben and Paulo. Those three may be all the deaths for the year. If anyone else goes after that, I would guess Sayid. So I'm starting to feel that Charlie is safe, at least for this season.

Charlie won't be next... Who else will they get to go on all the shows to promote Lost. What makes me mad is they had Dom go do all the talk shows to promote the first part of the season but he was barely in it.

Charlie won't be next... Who else will they get to go on all the shows to promote Lost. What makes me mad is they had Dom go do all the talk shows to promote the first part of the season but he was barely in it.

He actually didn't do nearly what he normally does. He only did two daytime shows (Regis and Rachel Ray). His appearance on Conan was cancelled and we never found out why. He usually does Kimmell, Ferguson and Leno and he hasn't done any of those shows yet this year. I'm hoping he'll be booked to do them in January for the series return.

It's interesting that there hasn't been an original Lostie death since Shannon. I'm starting to wonder whether the writers have long term plans for the original S1 cast (except for Boone and Shannon). They say they have had an ending in mind from the start. It could be most of the original Losties play a role in that envisioned ending.

Considering the recent death targets have all been non-originals I am thinking that Ben, Juliet, Paulo, Nikki or Desmond could be amoung the S3 victims. Personally I would rather it be any of them that died rather than Charlie or Sayid.

Honestly, I think if they killed off Charlie, that would be my Jump the Shark moment. While I don't watch the show just because Charlie's going to be on, knowing he won't be would be a big turnoff. Especially when I consider that characters who are clearly less developed, popular, used, or interesting, would still be on--like Jin or Claire. Personally, I think even Hurley, Sayid, or Sun should go before him. I also could not go online anymore, simply because I couldn't take all the "FINALLY"s and the diatribes on how useless Charlie is, yada yada. Several forums would be overwhelmingly smug and pleased. Not going online would only lessen my interest in the show. I probably wouldn't stop watching immediately, but I doubt it would be long before this show goes from "Must See" to "Eh, if' I'm home, maybe I'll watch it" to "I'm Just Not Into You Anymore."

I think Sayid might also be a strong candidate to go, especially if the main proponent behind the Charlie spec is lack of airtime. And if it's a choice between Naveen and Dom, I really hope that even with Naveen's emmy nomination, Dom is seen as the wisest choice to stay, publicity-wise for the show. Since Fox rarely does major publicity like the talk show circuit, if Dom were to leave, all that's left is Evangeline doing practically everything. Also, Sayid and Desmond share many of the same technical skills, so having two of them is redundant. They don't have another screw-up like Charlie.

I am extremely disappointed that they don't integrate Charlie more fully into the main storyline, but if the only way TPTB can figure out how to keep Dom on the show is to just keep Charlie with Claire, I think I'd be okay. I really like that story.

I've just recently watched the 'Fire + Water: Anatomy of an Episode' feature. I have to say I think it would be a VERY sad day on set if Charlie was to be killed off. The cast and crew all seem to adore Dom and his character. So do I, damn it. I sincerly hope the day never comes. :shakehead:

This is actually my first time in the Charlie section of the 'lage but I feel after what I write, I might not get out alive. :)

I love Charlie. He's had some of the very best lines in the show and I love his flashbacks in The Moth. That said, unless they show what happened when he was allegedly strung up by Ethan, kind of a mirror to Claire's FB in Maternity Leave, I can't imagine there's much more to do in flashbacks with him. More stuff with Liam? Zzzzzzzzz. It's like with John, I thought his flashback in Further Instructions was really weak stuff; either show why he was paralyzed or don't bother.

As for the C/C thing, I don't buy the C/C romance in the slightest. I thought the way TPTB contrived to get them back together in LTDA was soooo lame, I literally groaned out loud. :) Why on earth would Claire do that? Because he survived a hatch implosion? Claire, Claire, Claire.....

As for screen time, the mini-block was J/K/J-centric, but I suspect they're going to take a backseat for a while, especially if the spoiler that Jack disappears for a while after the 9th eppie (3rd one back) because he goes Home, Ben takes him there pans out. I think from the spoilers of stuff being filmed that Charlie and Desmundo have a storyline together, based on Charlie remembering him from England --the first time a character on the Island will have recognized someone he's crossed paths with before-- because he sees Des do something like the lightening rod scene in EnglandAs for Charlie getting offed, I have nothing invested in any of the characters, though I have favorites (Ben, John, Charlie, Kate). I've long considered the Island to be the main character on the show, that everyone --*everyone*-- is expendable in service to the larger story arc. That said, there's a spoiler going around that says that Juliet is either married to Ethan or is his sister and that she's going to track Charlie down and kill himClaire gets the 12th eppie for a flashback and Sayid gets the 11th eppie for hisTo be honest, I'm over the original cast's flashback's; I can't imagine how they can milk them much longer.

TPTB have said that this season is going to be Others-centric, so those hoping for more of the original cast might end up disappointed. No big deal to me, just keep the story moving along is all I ask.

This is actually my first time in the Charlie section of the 'lage but I feel after what I write, I might not get out alive. :)

Hmm...you may be right there....:undecide:

I love Charlie. He's had some of the very best lines in the show and I love his flashbacks in The Moth. That said, unless they show what happened when he was allegedly strung up by Ethan, kind of a mirror to Claire's FB in Maternity Leave, I can't imagine there's much more to do in flashbacks with him. More stuff with Liam? Zzzzzzzzz. It's like with John, I thought his flashback in Further Instructions was really weak stuff; either show why he was paralyzed or don't bother.

But if they are repeating information in everyone's FBs, then why is that an argument that Charlie's story is done? Couldn't that apply to any character at this point based on your reasoning? Why single out Charlie?


As for the C/C thing, I don't buy the C/C romance in the slightest. I thought the way TPTB contrived to get them back together in LTDA was soooo lame, I literally groaned out loud. :) Why on earth would Claire do that? Because he survived a hatch implosion? Claire, Claire, Claire.....


I buy the romance. It's hard to watch that imaginary peanut butter scene and not see the chemistry there. The only thing I don't buy is Claire's quick change of heart other than to simply say that she loves him. I still think this will be addressed in future episodes. I think they know they left that explanation hanging.

I think from the spoilers of stuff being filmed that Charlie and Desmundo have a storyline together, based on Charlie remembering him from England --the first time a character on the Island will have recognized someone he's crossed paths with before-- because he sees Des do something like the lightening rod scene in England

Just to nitpick, this is not the first time two characters recognize each other on the island. Jack and Desmond did.


That said, there's a spoiler going around that says that Juliet is either married to Ethan or is his sister and that she's going to track Charlie down and kill him


This is not a spoiler. It is just theory based on the fact that we saw Ethan and Juliet clearly had some relationship to each other. There is nothing is support of the theory that Juliet is out for revenge for his death. In fact, there is a spoiler theory thread on this and I've strenuously argued it will not happen.

Hmm...you may be right there...Hahaha. I should watch myself around someone with a screen name like Pacejunkie! :) :DBut if they are repeating information in everyone's FBs, then why is that an argument that Charlie's story is done? Couldn't that apply to any character at this point based on your reasoning? Why single out Charlie?Sorry, I wasn't singling out Charlie in particular--I'm simply not that big of a fan of the flashbacks and to *me*, in a lot of cases they are really, really obvious --right, got it the first four or five times, Kate's always on the run, emotionally and physically-- and detract from cool stuff that we could be shown on the Island.The only thing I don't buy is Claire's quick change of heart other than to simply say that she loves him. I still think this will be addressed in future episodes. I think they know they left that explanation hanging.Yes, that's what I meant. Sorry, hadn't had my afternoon coffee when I replied earlier. :)Just to nitpickOh, jeebus, what a blockhead I am. Of course, sorry! Way to make a good impression in a thread new to me! :(This is not a spoiler. It is just theoryIt was presented as a spoiler where I read it. I agree, it's unlikely for a number of reasons.

It was presented as a spoiler where I read it. I agree, it's unlikely for a number of reasons.

Where did you read it that it said it was a spoiler? I'd be curious to see.

Pacejunkie, here's where I read it:

http://spoilerslost.blogspot.com/2006/11/who-will-die-next.html

Though, to be honest, re-reading that, it's not really a spoiler, is it? No sourcing (DarkUFO is very good about crediting people), just the usual "Some suggesting that Juliet kills Charlie in revenge for Ethan" thing, which falls under "speculation" or "theorizing" for me.

I think she whacks Danny Pickett myself.

interesting.
very interesting.

I think the Herion will wash back up on the beach. I think i'd be a great twist if he started useing again.

I think this thread could soon become a hot topic again...

The ABC synopsis says that Desmond is going to drop a bombshell on Charlie. A promo clip has Desmond telling somebody "You're going to die". Keep in mind that just because Des may be predicting Charlies death - it doesn't mean it is definitely going to happen...but us Charlie fans may be kept guessing all the way till the end!!

How could TPTB do this to us?? :crybaby:

Don't they know some of us have weak hearts? :stretchr:


DON'T KILL MY CHARLIE!!!!! :wallbash: :ranting: :nono: :hissy: :irked:

How could TPTB do this to us?? :crybaby:

Don't they know some of us have weak hearts? :stretchr:


DON'T KILL MY CHARLIE!!!!! :wallbash: :ranting: :nono: :hissy: :irked:


I know - I think they are gonna put us through agony this season. However it would be funny if they teased the Charlie haters with the idea of Charlie's death and then have him pull through. Personally I think if any character can cheat death it's Charlie - he has already dodged it a few times. Boy has more lives than a cat! :biggrin:

I really hope they don't kill Charlie. What promo has Desmond saying You're going to die? I haven't seen that one. I like the new Avi Pace.