This is further proof that the island is a character.

Locke is making a shrine to the island to give him back his voice...whereas it is had given him more problems. He is using the island medicinam properties to have the island speak to him...

We saw Boone as the "spokesperson " for the island. I wonder if there is a possiblity that Boone will always speak for the island.

they must have drugs in the greenhouse

Yeah, seems like he got much of his spirituality from that commune.

Absolutey. After Locke, the island's my favorite character. :biggrin:

Good to see Boone back! So Locke is now eating his wacky paste and getting help from Boone? Nice. I hope he whips up another batch soon.
Boone guides him to saving Eko from the polar bear.

it hasnt really hit me until he smeared the mud on his face.

Is he the embodiment of colonel kurts from apocalypse now?

as we know, the colonel, didnt have a full deck...

Exactly what I thought when he was going into the cave...However I expected a Kurtz like person to be sitting in there..."Are you an assassin?"

I was wondering - esp when he said I am a hunter - what was that about - what exactly does he hunt???

I had started something about desmond....but it is gone or merged or something....
here is what I said....

Desmond is the son of????? someone...he knew what was going on....He had that aura around him like Christ...He had that tie dye like Jesus Christ Superstar.....I was thinking in terms of a christlike person..Perhaps Desmond is HIM

Locke has two dreams/visions that are Boone-related and BOTH feature the wheelchair:
When he and Eko are sleeping at the entrance to the Pearl hatch and he dreams he is Eko climbing the cliff where Boone was killed he sees Eko's brother in the wheelchair and now this one! Hmmm....

You'd have a nightmare about the wheelchair if you had been using one and suddenly not.

MVM, I sent an alert to the mods about this thread. Some things seem to have gotten merged together weirdly.

So apparently, Locke can now summon the psychic island powers simply through a little special mixed salad and a sweat hut! Awesome! We can finally have our answers now! No need to wonder about anything, since Locke can just talk to the island and it will tell him anything he needs to know! Maybe that's how the Others know so much, they have their own giant sweat hut and talk to the island... It tells them about Jack, his problems, his life, etc...

So, now that we have nothing impeding our ability to get answers to our questions, what mystery are you looking forward to getting resolved first?

This is so awesome that there's no more reason to ever wonder about anything and that we can just get answers easily whenever we need them!!

:rolleyes:

MVM, I sent an alert to the mods about this thread. Some things seem to have gotten merged together weirdly.

lol...I noticed that when I read my post about desmond....lololol...its all good...
100%
I really think it is the island talking to Locke in a way he can understand. He takes the island paste from the character and the island gives him back the sacrafice in his thoughts. That may be why Boone died to begin with. To become the voice of the island to Locke who will save the island.

BTW...did the cop let Locke go???

We saw Boone as the "spokesperson " for the island. I wonder if there is a possiblity that Boone will always speak for the island.

I think you may have missed something, Minnie...I also believe the island used the unconscious Eko to give John his "further instructions". I think Locke merely imagined that Eko was alert and talking. Plus, Eko said..."Afterall...you are a hunter". Eko didn't know that...when he met Locke, John was trapped (meekly) in the hatch pushin the button...not the explorer/hunter we came to love in Season 1. Eko didn't know any of that...

But the Island does.

I think the island lead John to both the drug plane and to the Swan hatch door...But I think after the hatches implosion...it gave Locke the ability to "talk to the island" more freely...or at least "hear the island" better.

It was really great to see Boone and Locke again, and to see Boone with interesting lines, and a very, very cool scene. I enjoyed the airport sequence immensely. It reminded me just what a great actor Ian really is, and how much I miss Boone and Shannon on the island.

I hope we see him again soon!! That was just too cool.

I too hope john locke regularly puts himself into a drugged up state in order to commune with boone.

Nice point ator....

I beleive it is possible that Ecko had his own set of dreams...Perhaps since echo is already a spiritual man he does not need to have the "magic potion"...lol...whereas Locke does...for the time being.

Obviously the island saved Ecko, Locke and Desmond for some greater good...

One thing I especially dug about "Further Instructions" was the sweat lodge thing because I've felt all along that Locke is a quintessential "wounded healer", someone who has been hurt badly in life and, while he still struggles with those wounds and is not fully "enlightened" or whole himself yet, he has the ability because of those experiences and the way he struggles valiantly to find their meaning, grow from them, and accept whatever wisdom they have to bestow on him, to help others as he did, for example, with Charlie in "The Moth". I thought the sweat lodge/visionquest concept was perfect for him because it really brought out that shaman, wounded healer archetype that is so much the definition of Locke for me. "Wounded healer" says it all because he is at once confused, yet wise, hurt yet strong, wounded yet triumphant--and that truimph exists not because he's got it all figured out and/or has had some full spiritual enlightenment yet himself, but because he perseveres as a seeker and one who always tries to do the right thing, no matter how many times life/"other" people (pun alert!) kick him down. He's a "man of faith" indeed, he is determined to believe in something, some goodness, some purpose, even though life keeps showing him the "other side" of things (pun alert 2!). What I love about Locke most of all is that he could become totally hardened and cynical but he fights with everything in him to protect his desire to trust, to have faith in something, to find meaning in life, and because of his constant effort in this regard over a lifetime, he has become wise, albiet still imperfect as are we all.

He can help others. Maybe Boone was right and he will be able to "bring the family back together" or whatever the exact phrase was. Anyway, the sweat lodge thing was the perfect vehicle to show Locke the shaman.

Awesome.

I totally agree. Ever since the beginning of the show, I've seen Locke as the shaman of the island and it's a big reason I got into Lost in the first place. Further Instructions just nailed that idea and ran with it. I was happy!

I love that he build the sweat house within Ecko's church.

great to see locke back to his old season one ways

I love that he build the sweat house within Ecko's church.

I was wondering why he did that. Maybe he thought it'd bring him even closer to Eko?

Locke building the sweat lodge in the church made perfect sense to me. A church is a holy, spiritual place. Where better to take a spiritual journey? Also, being that the church was being built by Eko, it also let Locke get more in tune with him.

I loved the symbolic use of the wheelchair. I believe it represents Locke's feeling of helplessness and frustration over events not only on the island, but also in his life.

I definitely see the island as a character in it's own right. I do believe that the island uses different means to 'guide' the Losties in their actions. Boone was chosen as Locke's spiritual guide because of the whole 'clean up your own mess' thing. The vision sequence was just totally awsome!

Oh, and Boone was way cool :thumbup1:

I thought that Eko's church would protect Locke from bad spiritual guides.

This episode was full of symbolism. Putting the sweat lodge inside the hut was the merging of the 2 spiritualities and allowed Locke to find out what he needed to know to help Eko. Hopefully it also means that they will merge in friendship because I think Locke will need Eko if he plans a rescue mission. That is what I got out of the "clean up your mess" and the "can't do anything for them (Jack, Kate, Sawyer) yet" messages from Boone. Locke has to save Eko because he needs Eko to help in the coming conflict.

I don't know if that is possible. Eko's out cold and didn't John already leave? Maybe he'll have the stick to symbolize Eko's presence.

I think you may have missed something, Minnie...I also believe the island used the unconscious Eko to give John his "further instructions". I think Locke merely imagined that Eko was alert and talking. Plus, Eko said..."Afterall...you are a hunter". Eko didn't know that...when he met Locke, John was trapped (meekly) in the hatch pushin the button...not the explorer/hunter we came to love in Season 1. Eko didn't know any of that...

But the Island does.

Yeah, that's the way I percieved it too.

Some people are tracking the "job" of each of our losties. For example, Sayid said he is a torturer. Now we have John the hunter. Do we have any others that have actually said there "job"?

Locke is the hunter...he will "hunt" down our losties that have been captured and bring the family together...

Some people are tracking the "job" of each of our losties. For example, Sayid said he is a torturer. Now we have John the hunter. Do we have any others that have actually said there "job"?

Sawyer the lumberjack...

Sawyer the lumberjack...


....and he's okay!

I think Sawyer is the "punished". Remember when Kate talked to him about wanting to be punished for his past behavior.

YES YES YES... I remember thast conversation...Learning who he is ...he wants to be punished...he will be punished ....

I too enjoyed the sweat lodge scene, even though it now presents Locke with a certain way to speak with the island, he could have like a full blown convo. "How ya doing island? I'm good john, just cleaning my errrr...ears..." anyway, i really enjoyed the vision sequence at the airport, and i loved the digital effects they used, made it seem more visiony ( - NOT A WORD). Anyway it reminded me of how great season one's visions were, with claires baby dream with locke (with the one eye black and one white) and boones vision with shannon dying. It was also a vast improvement over the quite frankly poor vision scenes in season 2, anyone remember that dream after ana and libby got shot, with ana just talking to eko "You mean a dream like this one" (worst line ever in LOST), a truly awful vision.

Anyway the point is i really enjoyed it, and i hope they do some more visions throughout season 3. Hopefully some dark visions.

One thing I especially dug about "Further Instructions" was the sweat lodge thing because I've felt all along that Locke is a quintessential "wounded healer", someone who has been hurt badly in life and, while he still struggles with those wounds and is not fully "enlightened" or whole himself yet, he has the ability because of those experiences and the way he struggles valiantly to find their meaning, grow from them, and accept whatever wisdom they have to bestow on him, to help others as he did, for example, with Charlie in "The Moth". I thought the sweat lodge/visionquest concept was perfect for him because it really brought out that shaman, wounded healer archetype that is so much the definition of Locke for me. "Wounded healer" says it all because he is at once confused, yet wise, hurt yet strong, wounded yet triumphant--and that truimph exists not because he's got it all figured out and/or has had some full spiritual enlightenment yet himself, but because he perseveres as a seeker and one who always tries to do the right thing, no matter how many times life/"other" people (pun alert!) kick him down. He's a "man of faith" indeed, he is determined to believe in something, some goodness, some purpose, even though life keeps showing him the "other side" of things (pun alert 2!). What I love about Locke most of all is that he could become totally hardened and cynical but he fights with everything in him to protect his desire to trust, to have faith in something, to find meaning in life, and because of his constant effort in this regard over a lifetime, he has become wise, albiet still imperfect as are we all.

He can help others. Maybe Boone was right and he will be able to "bring the family back together" or whatever the exact phrase was. Anyway, the sweat lodge thing was the perfect vehicle to show Locke the shaman.

Awesome.

Thank you so much for that. I could not agree more. :)