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the business
10-18-2006, 09:21 PM
what was this? when locke jumped out of the tent? ideas?
i guess i should have watched more of the episode, ha

EvoTitanium
10-18-2006, 09:21 PM
Looked like a lion..

diabolo237
10-18-2006, 09:24 PM
Looked like the polar bear from the comic book to me

b_gibbins
10-18-2006, 09:51 PM
It was definately a polar bear. That is how Locke knew the polar bear has captured Eko.

theoutsider
10-18-2006, 11:33 PM
Did you guys see that when Locke was going out the door..good stuff. Check it out.

Polar Bear flash in the sweat lodge (http://humpys.net/view_pic.php?id=246&season=3)

More caps here More "Further Instructions" caps (http://humpys.net/eegallery.php?season=3)

Lost_In_Louisiana
10-19-2006, 03:24 AM
Maybe I'm just crazy (don't answer that :redface: ) but the animal image that leaps out of the fire in the sweat lodge looks more like a wolf than a polar bear to me: http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?album=1185&pos=222

So I started thinking, "Who is most fearful of a wolf? Who might need saving from a wolf?" Then it hit me, "SHEEP!"

Locke got the most agitated & fearful in his airport vision when he saw Benry wanding Jack (SHEPARD). Is the "Shepherd" in most need of saving? Eko's stick always did remind me of a shepherd's staff.

I'm going to take a wild stab and say that Locke will save Jack. It would be his ultimate redemption - to be the hero and save the one guy who has always gotten one over on him.

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Ok, let's say I'm going the wrong way with the above theory....

Perhaps the animal appearance is a warning of a "wolf in sheep's clothing" --- perhaps there is a spy in camp? Is there another "other" keeping tabs on the Losties? Hurley is suspicious of Desmond. Has Desmond been turned by the Others???


Lots to think about if you see the apparition as a wolf instead of a polar bear!!! :biggrin:

Fiver
10-19-2006, 03:27 AM
Good points about the wolf and sheep. I looked at it frame by frame on the TiVo and everyone at my house thought it was a wolf...

fourthpoliceman
10-19-2006, 03:35 AM
Yeah, it kinda looked like a wolf, even in the cave when it was shot from the front, but in the cave atleast... when it ran away, you can see it's a bear.

http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?album=1185&pos=472

Lost_In_Louisiana
10-19-2006, 04:29 AM
Did the DHARMA group have any wolves that they were experimenting on? For some reason I think there might be a connection between wolves and the Others, but I can't remember what comment in the script led me to think that! :confused:

bune
10-19-2006, 04:36 AM
The SFX shot looked a lot like the polar bear from Season 1 so I thought it was the polar bear. Could have been a wolf though, it looked kind of grey.

I think you're right about Locke saving Jack, but I don't think Jack's going to go back with him, I think he'll stay with the others.

Lost_In_Louisiana
10-19-2006, 06:05 AM
The SFX shot looked a lot like the polar bear from Season 1 so I thought it was the polar bear. Could have been a wolf though, it looked kind of grey.
That's what made it look so much like a wolf to me - the shades of grey in its coat. But after looking at the shots of the bear in the cave, well maybe it was just really dirty! :biggrin:

ame en peine
10-19-2006, 06:30 AM
IMO the polar bears continue to look like the ones in Walt's comic book: angled eyes, huge teeth.
http://gallery.lost-media.com/displayimage.php?album=172&pos=188

diabolo237
10-19-2006, 06:51 AM
:shesaid: :shesaid: :shesaid: I thought it looked EXACTLY like the polar bear in the comic book as well!

fourthpoliceman
10-19-2006, 06:55 AM
I thought it looked EXACTLY like the polar bear in the comic book as well!

Since Walt is gone, can we finally assume that Walt didn't will the polar bear into existence, and add it to the other evidence that the polar bears have been there for a very long time... before Walt was even born?

ame en peine
10-19-2006, 07:05 AM
Since Walt is gone, can we finally assume that Walt didn't will the polar bear into existence, and add it to the other evidence that the polar bears have been there for a very long time... before Walt was even born? But then why do they look like the comic book bears? I understand the CGI people might have used it as a model, but it really confuses things when they show a cave full of bones and evidence that it looks like the bears have been there for ages....

fourthpoliceman
10-19-2006, 07:08 AM
But then why do they look like the comic book bears? I understand the CGI people might have used it as a model, but it really confuses things when they show a cave full of bones and evidence that it looks like the bears have been there for ages....

CGI folks were probably given some guidelines to make the polar bear as scary as possible.

That said, all of the other evidence that Walt had nothing to do with it? Danielle's comment to Sayid. The Cages the only took the bears 2 hours to get a fish buscuit. The bear in the cave with all the very old bones....

wanders01
10-19-2006, 07:12 AM
I thought the "wolf " was Lockes' spirit guide and it was how he knew to save Eko and that it was the polar bear he was looking for. As to the bears..Charlies states "polar bears are like the Einsteins of bears" and the cage Sawyer was in didn't they state it only took the bears (plural) two hours to figure out how to get the fishbiscuit. Sawyer only killed one bear and this could have been it's mate.

monsieurxander
10-19-2006, 09:47 AM
I thought it was a wolf when it was first flashed in the tent, but figured out it was supposed to be a polar bear when Locke said "Eko's been kidnapped by a polar bear!" Seemed to come out of nowhere, but then I remembered the "wolf," and went "oooohhhhhhhhhh."

Seems to me the SFX weren't done as well as they were in Season 1. Not that the polar bear SFX back then were extremely special (suspension of disbelief definitely required), but I think it was at least edited better.

The big cartoon bear kind of took me out of it, with me thinking "Gee, this is what we get when all of the show's budget goes to the extensive cast's respective salaries." :hypocrit:

ozium88
10-19-2006, 09:52 AM
it's a polar bear, that's pretty obvious don''tcha think? the bear jumped out of the fire in the sweatlodge....locke uses fire to burn the bear in the cave....connection? premanition?

TabbyRasa
10-19-2006, 10:22 AM
It looked more like a wolf to me, but in the context of the epi, I believe that it is meant to be a bear. That vision is what inspired Locke to get out his knife and tell Charlie that he was going to save Eko's life. And a polar bear was in the cave with an injured Eko.

But, LIL, if we're meant to associate "wolf in sheep's clothing", then that might point to Jack (Shepherd)...so it COULD be a very subtle clue that Jack might agree
to do something not in keeping with being a Lostie, for The Others.

ame en peine
10-19-2006, 06:42 PM
CGI folks were probably given some guidelines to make the polar bear as scary as possible.

That said, all of the other evidence that Walt had nothing to do with it? Danielle's comment to Sayid. The Cages the only took the bears 2 hours to get a fish buscuit. The bear in the cave with all the very old bones....
I know, Walt didn't conjure up all those bears. They just look identical, is all..