Do you think the 2 new characters introduced in "Further Instructions" are needed on the show?
Do you like the look of them? Do you dislike them?

Would you be happier with just the main cast and the new "others" characters?

Voice your opinion

I realise there is another thread similar to this discussing the characters but this poll is to see who likes them and who doesn't.

if they had been introducted better then maybe im not sure i dont like the guy not kean on the way he looks

I don't think they are needed at all. I mean, I know the writers like to kill people off every now and then so they need new characters to take over, but when they came into that scene I was like "WTF! Get off the screen!!!" and wanted to turn it off. They were just thrown in there, pointlessly, where as one of the other characters who actually have a significant relationship with the rest of the original group, could have been more suited to help out and show concern. As soon as they came in, Hurley's part got ignored, and so did the reappearance of Desmond...
I probably wouldn't have minded as much if their debut happened the way it was supposed to, but this way. Nope.

I think they are needed. They add a younger demographic to the cast.

Also, I would like to see a couple of the existing duller characters who have a tired storyline be "retired" and fresh faces be added to the mix.

Do you think the 2 new characters introduced in "Further Instructions" are needed on the show? Yes - especially Paulo - there's always room for another hot shirtless stud.

Do you like the look of them? Yes, I like the look of Paulo very much indeed!

Would you be happier with just the main cast and the new "others" characters? No. I think they need to introduce new characters all the time - whether in flashbacks or on the island - it adds spice.

I'm OK with new characters. But of course, I'll have to wait and see how they'll be like before I go judging them. Eko was a success and Libby was really liked too. Ana had lots of fans too. 50% loved her, 50% hated her.

They really don't seem necessary at the moment. We have enough stories we're already juggling without adding 2 more. However, I trust TPTB will change my mind. They're usually brilliant like that. ;)

I think their introduction was really awkward... but I figure tptb have something in mind for them.

Yeah I agree, I think we could do without them as of now, there is just so much to take on in this show, but Im willing to give them a figting chance. Hoping they will both be there for more than just eye candy.

They are evil. Keel zem. :D

Isn't this a bit premature, they've had 10 seconds of screen time!

Isn't this a bit premature, they've had 10 seconds of screen time!


Its a joke. :D

But I honestly don't think they are needed.

They blew it with the way they introduced them -- actually, Nikki. Paulo was sort of nondescript in the verbal impression he made. Nikki=obnoxious. We don't need any stupid sitcom obnoxiousness on Lost where all the characters are so multilayered.
I think they should have limited their new characters right now to the Others -- there are plenty new faces there, and Juliet is fascinating, and Zeke is starting to grow on me (as a guy you love to hate too). They don't need any new beachies that were pretending to be there all along. Give Steve/Scott some lines, and that girl with the frizzy hair and the striped shirt! I really don't care if the actress who plays Nikki has been in another show. Big woop.

I am not sure why they feel the need to shoe horn in another two characters like they did. It was so heavy handed they way the popped into the fray...

Usually...long running shows on their last legs dump new characters into the show...Cousin Oliver comes to mind on the Brady Bunch...the suddenly five year old on Family Ties...there are so many other fascinating people on LOST they need to focus on right now...

I personally think that the main focus should be on getting to know the others and understanding their way of life and what drives them. I dont fully understand the need to have Nikki and Paulo right at this moment. I found their introduction really cringe worthy the audience feels like they know the castaways inside out, yet these two charecters are completely foreign and acting as if they have been here all along.

I didnt like it, but hey who knows? They might prove to be interesting. I just hope that the introduction of two new charecters doesnt mean they can kill of some of our favourite charecters this season!

I think they are not needed. Why so many new characters every season? That doesn´t make sense for me.

Usually...long running shows on their last legs dump new characters into the show...Cousin Oliver comes to mind on the Brady Bunch...the suddenly five year old on Family Ties...there are so many other fascinating people on LOST they need to focus on right now...

Ahhhhhhhhh...I was about to say that. :)

Constantly adding new people like this is going to be the death of the show. They need to stick with the core group we were introduced to. Just because they can afford more actors now doesn't mean we need more losties. Having new 'Others' is expected and needed, but having two new losties randomly being featured is just totally wrong.

Now if they want to somehow have Eddie show up on the island that would be fine with me. :rolleyes:

Either way, it looks like we're stuck with our Cousin Olivers for a while.

I'd rather they developed the villains of the show (i.e. Ben, Tom, Pickett, Ms. Klugh, Alex and Chachi? Also, how about Rousseau? If they had to introduce new characters, they should have given us a glimpse of them in season two (like they did Ana-Lucia) Well, they're here to stay, so you might as well get used to them. Paulo seems to be an instant hit with the ladies. I guess we'll have to wait for Nikki to start walking around in a bikini before us guys can make a determination. However, after seeing Paulo for ten seconds...Sawyer, Eko, Sayid, Jin and Jack are definitely more masculine than he is.

Ok, I've decided to review what I said about them last time. After watching the scene again, I'm not so bothered about Paulo, he was sitting right there, where it was all happening, but Nikki...I still dont think she was needed.

I want to see what they are like before i judge them .

But boy, what a bland, bad, and spontaneous first impression they left.:nono:

i think they are needed because now sawyer jack and kate aren't at the camp anymore its seems a bit... empty :(

i didn't like the enterance for nikki and i got a bad impression off of her cause she shouted at hurley :( i recon you need to be on at least for 6 + episodes to get to shout at hurley..... in fact no one should shout at hurley.... ever!

I voted: "I want to see what they are like before i judge them"

As with most people, I really disliked the way they were thrown into the cast -- very abruptly, like we were already supposed to know them and actually care about their opinion.
If we had heard more random lines in the past from the redshirts, it probably wouldn't have bothered us as much if a couple of them gradually became more developed characters.
Nikki definitely started off on the wrong foot. I dislike her already because she came off as obnoxious and self-centered.

I don't mind having new characters -- we are being introduced to a bunch of them over on the Others' side -- it adds more to the show. However, it is going to be difficult to accept 'new' characters on the Losties' side of the island.

Nikki seems to be a bit of a Shannon wannabe, im not keen on the pair of them and i will be annoyed if they pick up lots of screentime and The Others backstory is subsequently left on the shelf.

You can probably bet the house that Rose and Bernard will now be a non-factor this season, with the intro of Fabio and the Jennifer Anniston look-alike.

People are really feeling the hate for Nikki. To be honest, I didn't even notice her when I watched the episode, I was too busy watching Desmond in the distance.

Am I mad about them invading screen time? Not really, they're probably just fodder for when the polar bear comes looking for revenge. Kind of like the hypochondriac from season one, around for an episode or two and then disappears. Hopefully no flashbacks.

I don't know, how many they will kill til the end of the season? *lol*
Anyway, I'm with you Red Duck, I didn't notice her in the episode, I was busy looking Paulo, Desmond and Locke.

I'm not going to say not needed as I'm sure they will contribute somewhere in the future, but the introduction to these two was diabolical, you would think the writers would have learnt from Ana-Lucia that we don't like newbies barking orders at our fav characters.
Obviously not.

I voted other. I want them gone, but dont think we have too many cast members. We have the perfect amount, including our losties and the others. They just dont fit in at all, and to be fair both their acting seems really wooden. Espically nikkis gasp from the preview.

the only reason i can see Paulo being needed right now is if has a connection to the portugese-speaking men at the end of LTDA.

Also, I would like to see a couple of the existing duller characters who have a tired storyline be "retired" and fresh faces be added to the mix.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, a thousand times no. They've kicked off a ton of characters in these last few episodes. You can't really get better characters than the ones we have now.

i think they are needed because now sawyer jack and kate aren't at the camp anymore its seems a bit... empty :(


That's why they need them for now, but I'm pretty confident that the way in which the writers introduced these two indicated that they are not to be long for the island. TPTB know how to write characters we love or love to hate, why then would they introduce 2 frresh faces so.....ughh-like? No, IMO these two will be around to add sex appeal to the first part of the mini season and then get killed by eye-patch guy or if you don't like spoilers, get killed by a polar bear/mr friendly, or Zombie ethan.

Of course we're going to need to see more, however I'll echo the sentiments that they were introduced poorly. Why was there a need to cast two more characters unless their story arcs couldn't be told through two current Losties. Claire is sorta tied to the beach with Aaron and TPTB seem to have Jin and Sun for bigger and better things. With Kate currently occupied and Ana, Libby and Shannon killed off, maybe there was need for a female presence going forward on the beach front.

I think they are just beachfront eye candy while Kate and Sawyer are with The Others. If Kate and Sawyer are planned to be around for awhile yet, Paulo and Nikki are likely cannon fodder down the line.

I wish they'd give Dom Monaghan something to sink his teeth into - he was terribly annoying as the nothing-but-smartass during Locke's flashback episode this season.

I don't HATE Nickoletti and Polenta...I just don't want them getting in the way! They're cluttering up the screen!

I voted that they were unnecessary. The tailies I could see. The Others make perfect sense. Danielle, sure. Desmond in the hatch, okay. These are all new characters that make perfect sense to introduce. They come with their own storylines that move the show forward. Nikki and Paulo? They bring nothing to the table, and there seems to be no reason to bring them out of the redshirt chorus other than to become smoke monster chow.

To me the only purpose they will serve is to be the ones that die so my season one original losties won't have to.

To me the only purpose they will serve is to be the ones that die so my season one original losties won't have to.
One can hope. :undecide: The flip side being what if they're there as replacements for originals who are being killed off. I understand the whole "high stakes, life and death, anyone can go" premise, but there's only so much turnover I can take before I have to stop getting attached to the characters. And if I don't dare care about the characters, it'll be hard to stay interested in the show.

Paulo seems to be an instant hit with the ladies.
Uh, really? :blink: That's hard to imagine. Or was that before the whole "I don't want to have to go to all the trouble of retrieving one of my good golf clubs from beside your mangled body" thing?

Uh, really? :blink: That's hard to imagine. Or was that before the whole "I don't want to have to go to all the trouble of retrieving one of my good golf clubs from beside your mangled body" thing?

Yeah. I can say he does nothing for me. Desmond puts him to shame.

The issue with assuming Paulo and Nikki will be the eventual cannon fodder is that TPTB like shock value and as has been mentioned they could be introduced to replace to longtime characters.

Be just like TPTB to give them HUGE, KEY story lines. But they sure botched introducing them to us.

Desmond, Ben, Juliet, Tom, Pickett, Bea Klugh, Alex--all of these characters had solid intros, and you believed that they were gonna be crucial to the story. All I believe about these two is that they are eye candy who get to say the snarky lines and take up space that could be better given to regulars and regular recurrings!

Will TPTB try to make them crucial to the story? I have little doubt about THAT. Will we want them there? Need them there? (i.e., Could a regular have filled this function?) And if they're so important, why the horrible intros? Can't see where Eppys 3 and 4 couldn't have gotten along just fine without them. The characters I mentioned at the start of the last paragraph--THEM, I could see fitting in from the get-go.

If Paulo and Nikki are so necessary, they should've introduced them better. If they are not, why have them in the first place?

It'll be interesting to see how they're shoehorned into these last two eppys before the hiatus. But the very idea that they have to be shoehorned in works against them. Why throw obstacles in their paths to audience acceptance from the start? Don't they have enough working against them simply by their newness? Sometimes I just don't get TPTB at all. :dizzy:

All I see are more characters taking screentime from the characters we already know. We don't need Paolo or Nikki at all.

I'm willing to give them a chance. While they haven't been very sympathetic from the few scene's they've been in now, if they have good island storylines and fresh flashbacks that bring back the memories of season 1, I'm all for them (as quite honestly - the flashbacks of the characters that have been there from season 1 ever since season 2 are ranging from not holding much new information about the characters to being downright boring. Seriously - the Locke flashback in FI may have parallels to his island situations, but it has to be one of the most dissapointing flashback stories ever, whatever happened to the fantastic storylines of season 1?). It'd be especially cool if they're not introduced just to be killed off as some of the new characters have been so far.

Personally, if they'd dumped Locke's FBs entirely, and just left it at the Boone-guided vision, it would've been a better eppy. More working out the tensions between Locke and Charlie would've been a better character study. And DEFINITELY more on the reactions to Hurley's news. Basically, everyone seemed to just stand there and nod. Except Nikki, who whined (great introduction to her, TPTB! :rolleyes:). Those scenes should've been intense! Instead, the whole thing seemed like an afterthought. BAD writing!

They'd have been better off introducing Paulo and Nikki in these next two eppys, where maybe they could DO something. They weren't needed in Eppy 3 (which was a pretty bad eppy overall, anyway); if Hurley kept the golf clubs in his shelter, Desmond could've just come to him in Eppy 4. Paulo's presence made no sense whatsoever.

Oh, well. If they had me as a writer, I'd not be in the financial straits I'm in, either! :10:

With such poor intro, I'm not inclined to think much of the future of Nikki and Paulo. Most other newer regulars and recurrings had boffo intros, and entered the flow of the story swimmingly. These two--their intros were the equivalent of a belly-flop! NOT auspicious. Not auspicious at all. . . .

My vote was for 'no we don't need them' but my second was to wait and see. But I still think we have enough of the cast left to not need to bring in new ones unless there is some vital addition they will bring that no other regular could. But I can't see how that's possible since we have so many already and they all vary so widely that I don't understand why they don't just use them. And then characters like Charlie and Sayid don't get enough screen time as it is. The new ones will take away from that. Give Charlie something to do besides Claire and tagging along with Locke. Surely he could provide more than he has been given so far.

Are they needed kind of depends on what they end up doing. I think they were just thrown in because the beach camp is getting dangerously close to extinction. Ana, Libby, Sawyer, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Jin, Sun, Michael, Walt, Vincent, Boone, and Shannon are all dead, gone or elsewhere.

With basically only Locke, Desmond, Hurley, Charlie, Claire (who won't likely do much since she has a baby), Eko, and the painfully under used Bernard and Rose are at the beach. I'm thinking the new two will be in it until more losties are re-united and will have minor roles after that. They may be needed simply as an extra set of hands for a few episodes. Fine by me.

If they are going to develop into full on main charachters then no, I don't think any more are needed. Plenty of losties and Others to go around in my opinion.

I agree that they needed a better introduction, they both just 'appeared out of nowhere', and not in a good way. Any other new characters have been a vital part of the storyline and have had defining, cool intros, but Paulo & Nikki just come in and destroy the intensity of Hurley's news.
They seem to have just been thrown in because of the lack of original Losties at the beach (& surrounding areas). Maybe they could be developed on a lot in the next 2 episodes and then maybe make an appearance every now & then so it doesn't look like they just disappeared again. But it's like Artzt, if he hadn't blown up, they need some other survivors sometimes so it's not like Hurley...and artzt, said about 'the loop'. But if they turn into main characters i'll be severely annoyed.

Are they needed kind of depends on what they end up doing. I think they were just thrown in because the beach camp is getting dangerously close to extinction. Ana, Libby, Sawyer, Jack, Kate, Sayid, Jin, Sun, Michael, Walt, Vincent, Boone, and Shannon are all dead, gone or elsewhere.

With basically only Locke, Desmond, Hurley, Charlie, Claire (who won't likely do much since she has a baby), Eko, and the painfully under used Bernard and Rose are at the beach. I'm thinking the new two will be in it until more losties are re-united and will have minor roles after that. They may be needed simply as an extra set of hands for a few episodes. Fine by me.

If they are going to develop into full on main charachters then no, I don't think any more are needed. Plenty of losties and Others to go around in my opinion.
But there's a good point ... why not use Bernard and Rose more? Many people, me included, want to see more of them.

They're not needed. Make them go away.

There are enough questions remaining (even from season 1) that it already seems they're just filling time now .. start concentrating on those instead of new characters.

The Locke pot growing farm flashbacks from S03E03 were lame. I was hoping it would lead to the answer of how he got in the wheelchair, but even that was left unanswered.

For intros, Paolo could have had the golfing scene in S03E04 as his intro and Nikki could have had the S03E05 expedition to the Pearl as her intro. Would have been more striking.

By Nikki and Paulo, I can only assume you're referring to Shannon II and Boone II. :rolleyes:

Didn't the writers claim they killed off their predecessors because the characters were too young and didn't have enough backstory to exploit? Hmm!

Didn't the writers claim they killed off their predecessors because the characters were too young and didn't have enough backstory to exploit? Hmm!

Yeah, funny thing, that. . . .:rolleyes:

BRING BACK ROSE AND BERNARD!!

Tonight's episode just proved my point I think. The roles they played on the trek to the Pearl could have been done by any of the original characters from the beach. They are just scene stealers as far as I'm concerned.

While I did like Nikki in the Pearl and when she was eager to go with Locke ... I'm still not thrilled with Paolo and feel he's just wasted. Who needs a new character that's just pouting and complaining? But personally, I'd have rather seen Rose and Bernard make the trek. She's one smart cookie and would have figured out what Nikki did and Bernard is much more giving ... what the team needed instead of a guy that had no lines in the Pearl and served no purpose at all.

Oh, but Jane! You're forgetting his announcement that the toilet in the Pearl bathroom worked! :rolleyes:

And that encouraging line about now that they'd found computers elsewhere, they could go back to camp now! :wallbash:

I want Rose and Bernard back SOOOOO much! :crybaby:

Oh, but Jane! You're forgetting his announcement that the toilet in the Pearl bathroom worked! :rolleyes:

And that encouraging line about now that they'd found computers elsewhere, they could go back to camp now! :wallbash:

I want Rose and Bernard back SOOOOO much! :crybaby:OMG! HOW did I forget those all-too-memorable lines?! :confused: I guess I was wrong. We did need Paolo to tell us that now everyone can come to the Pearl to use the toilet and shower again & to help the Losties know when to go back 'home'! :clap:

But seriously, he must be really frustrated with the lack of development the character has been given so far. I know I would be! :mad:

I have nothing against them but they're waste of space. We already have Claire, Jin, Sun, Hurley, Sayid. Don't need more.

Maybe they're going to have them do more in the second half of S3 but I still think we could have used more of Charlie, Claire, Rose, Bernard, Sun, Jin ... you name them, we have enough already.

After seeing 3.05 "The Cost of Living" I've started to like Nikki. She seems smart. After all, she was the one to think of looking at the other t.v.s for the other stations.

I also agree, Paulo is pretty useless. in 3.03 he didn't even know who the others were. I specifically remember Locke's speech in S1 "they've attacked us..." and Danielle's speech about the others coming, and all the extras were gathered around.

So pretty much, keep Nikki, feed Paulo to the polar bear or smoke munster. :blowup: hee hee just kidding.

After watching last ep, I can say I don't like them, they're not needed IMHO. I don't like the guy (I didn't like him in ep 4 either) and I don't like Nikki, sorry.
I think there are many characters in the show that can be used. We only know a little about Rose and Bernard for example, and we also have Jin, Sun, Charlie,Claire...like some people mentioned before.

I just can't get past how they were introduced as being in the dark reguarding the happenings on the island - I just find that ridiculous and a virtual impossibility. How can somebody be so completely disinterested in the happenings of the island as Paulo is unfathomable. Ana and Libby were killed - no big deal. A Hatch? Who cares. A crazed French lady - no biggie. Murderous Others?? Yawn.

The fact that first season Losties could have filled the roles tells me that these two need to be introduced for the sole reason of getting killed off. I mean Claire and Chaalie coud have went off on the excursion. However with there an element of danger involved, why would she risk herself when Aaron needs her. Of course this will make her a useless character for the rest of the show. She could have left Aaron with Auntie Rose and Uncle Bernard and she could have served the same purpose(was there one?) as Nikki.

I just can't get past how they were introduced as being in the dark reguarding the happenings on the island - I just find that ridiculous and a virtual impossibility. How can somebody be so completely disinterested in the happenings of the island as Paulo is unfathomable. Ana and Libby were killed - no big deal. A Hatch? Who cares. A crazed French lady - no biggie. Murderous Others?? Yawn.

The fact that first season Losties could have filled the roles tells me that these two need to be introduced for the sole reason of getting killed off. I mean Claire and Chaalie coud have went off on the excursion. However with there an element of danger involved, why would she risk herself when Aaron needs her. Of course this will make her a useless character for the rest of the show. She could have left Aaron with Auntie Rose and Uncle Bernard and she could have served the same purpose(was there one?) as Nikki.And along the lines of Paolo being so disconnected from what's been going on on the island ... we have Nikki that knew Eko's brother's body was in the plane? That is one thing that was VERY private and not talked about. Who told her? Charlie? Possibly ... we've seen him talk about private stuff in past eppys but for her to just say it out of the blue seemed really odd and disjointed. Here's this character that has been hanging with the island's MOST uninterested person and yet she knows this very, very private and secret thing about Eko? It just made no sense.

These two just don't fit at all.

After watching TCOL, i'm almost convinced they should stay - for one reason specifically - THEY ASK QUESTIONS!! (or at least one anyway) :biggrin:

I know a lot of people were interested in the Pearl's other screens and what they were for, and it's taken Nikki hardly any time to make Locke think about what he's looking at. I know it's only 1 example, but i'm hoping they stick around, as they seem to be the curious types we've been crying out for! ;)

I voted yes they are needed. Why? Because we need some new "cannon fodder" to be killed off. They will be the sacrficial lambs and save the rest of our Losties:biggrin: It must be true because the inane lines they were given were enough to make an anyone cringe IMHO or run into the jungle screaming Smokey take me........I can take these lines anymore....but the toilet still works.

After watching TCOL, i'm almost convinced they should stay - for one reason specifically - THEY ASK QUESTIONS!! (or at least one anyway) :biggrin:

I know a lot of people were interested in the Pearl's other screens and what they were for, and it's taken Nikki hardly any time to make Locke think about what he's looking at. I know it's only 1 example, but i'm hoping they stick around, as they seem to be the curious types we've been crying out for! ;)But see, why couldn't Bernard have done that? He showed us that he's proactive when he tried to build the SOS message with rocks. I think they've been added as eye-candy and that makes me sad because the show already has the best aray of eye-candy of any show on TV IMO. I can live with Nikki but Paolo needs to bite the big one.

But see, why couldn't Bernard have done that? He showed us that he's proactive when he tried to build the SOS message with rocks. I think they've been added as eye-candy and that makes me sad because the show already has the best aray of eye-candy of any show on TV IMO. I can live with Nikki but Paolo needs to bite the big one.


If the story were well written they wouldn't need ANYONE to ask questions unless it was something very technical or medical not in common knowledge.

I can't live with Nikki. Poulio can stay as long as he doesn't speak.

I like having Nikki around, although there was very little reason for having her point out the thing about the extra screens. Could she not have pointed out something else, slightly less logical/technological that she could actually gain credit for (and not be slated for). I think there were a lot of script problems in 'TCOL'.

I see no reason to include Paulo at all. He jars the scenes he appears in (when the script doesn't accomplish this for him) and I dislike everything he has done so far. The only thing I like about Paulo is his orange t-shirt.

I like having Nikki around, although there was very little reason for having her point out the thing about the extra screens. Could she not have pointed out something else, slightly less logical/technological that she could actually gain credit for (and not be slated for). I think there were a lot of script problems in 'TCOL'.

I see no reason to include Paulo at all. He jars the scenes he appears in (when the script doesn't accomplish this for him) and I dislike everything he has done so far. The only thing I like about Paulo is his orange t-shirt.Exactly! It just seems so obvious that they're writing stuff for her and Paolo just because they're in the cast.

Like his orange shirt? LOL But it has nothing on Desmond's blue one! :biggrin:

Exactly! It just seems so obvious that they're writing stuff for her and Paolo just because they're in the cast.

What I am completely perplexed about is why they gave 2 new writers such a crucial episode to write. Surely it would have been better if they teamed one up with Liz Sarnoff for this episode?

Like his orange shirt? LOL But it has nothing on Desmond's blue one! :biggrin:

Yeah, thats the kind of shirt i would wear (the orange one) :)

I voted other.I don't think they deserve a flashback or more than 2 min screentime per episode.Are they needed? YES...to be the ones who die at the end of season:hypocrit:

I really think the addition of these 2 characters is unnesscary. It brings nothing to the show...they almost seem like stupid 2 dimentional sitcom characters so far. The couple that is at odds with eachother.
Especially with the killing off of some really cool characters like Eko. Eko dies and he gets replaced with these doofuses? bleh.
that episode last week made me incredibly mad.

I really think the addition of these 2 characters is unnesscary. It brings nothing to the show...they almost seem like stupid 2 dimentional sitcom characters so far. The couple that is at odds with eachother.
Especially with the killing off of some really cool characters like Eko. Eko dies and he gets replaced with these doofuses? bleh.
that episode last week made me incredibly mad.Yea, now that you mention it ... they do seem like Dharma and Greg meet the Losties (pun intended). LOL I have no idea what TPTB's plans are for them but I hope it's a good one because unless the actors that play Rose, Bernard, Sun, Jin, Charlie and Claire are unavailable (which I doubt for all but maybe the first 2) we already have way enough cast to have been used as these two have been used so far.

I'm not fond of either of them, but we'll see what the develop into.

I think that is really unfair for that Nikki and Paulo are receiving so much criticism as we've barely seen them!!! Give them a chance - Shannon for instance I never liked during the first few eps of season 1 coz she was just a whiney bitch, but further on into the season greater depth was added to her character which made me like her more -

IF ONLY FANS OF LOST HAS AS MUCH FAITH IN THE SHOW'S WRITERS AS JOHN LOCKE HAS IN THE ISLAND!!!

The introduction of Nikki and Paulo was ham fisted and abrupt. I don't have a problem with the characters in theory, but their clumsy introduction broke suspension of disbelief, big time.

Particularly annoying and unbelievable was Nikki's "realization" in the Pearl hatch: "Hey guys, what are these other TV's for?" as if Locke were clueless enough to not realize there were other stations to view. And the "Eko's brother's body is in the wreckage" line, which seem as if it were hacked into the final edit with a stapler and paste.

I can't say whether or not I like them, but I strongly dislike the way they're written. I picture an executive at ABC pressuring the creators of Lost to add these characters based on ratings and market research, which might explain their abrupt and awkward entrance.

(BTW I loved Locke's pot farm flashback)

I think that is really unfair for that Nikki and Paulo are receiving so much criticism as we've barely seen them!!! Give them a chance - Shannon for instance I never liked during the first few eps of season 1 coz she was just a whiney vincent, but further on into the season greater depth was added to her character which made me like her more -

IF ONLY FANS OF LOST HAS AS MUCH FAITH IN THE SHOW'S WRITERS AS JOHN LOCKE HAS IN THE ISLAND!!!I don't think it's unfair at all. What have we to go on so far? Nothing but a guy that picks a fight with a stranger ... not even a member of the survivors who just gets to their camp and is jumped on like he's been going on the missions from day one, same guy that gripes that his g/f wants to join Locke when, by her admission, he's done nothing but gripe about not being included AND when he is included the only thing he can contribute is that the toilet works and that they can all go now because they've gotten the tv to work ... with no reaction to the man they see on the screen?! Then we have a gal that's pretty much never been seen before and yet she knows that Yemmi was in the plane (and just how does she know this?) and then she's given a line about the monitors like no one else could have figured that out without her? Her best moment was when Eko died and she showed genuine grief ... while, I might add, Paolo did nothing but hold her.

All we, that think they're not needed, are saying is that nothing the writers have given them so far shows us that they are needed. Every single thing they've done could have been done by cast members that are already established ... like Bernard, Rose, Charlie, Claire, Sun or Jin. They simply are not needed. If they wanted us to feel they're a needed contribution, they should have shown us that by now.

As for Shannon ... didn't matter if we liked her at first or not (I never disliked her ... now, AL I hated from the first moment I saw her in the bar with Jack and felt she was a wasted character. All she served was to give someone for Michael to shoot.) because she was part of the original cast and was allowed to be as shallow as needed because that's what was set up for her from the beginning. Nothing has been set up for these two and that's what's bugging us.

The introduction of Nikki and Paulo was ham fisted and abrupt. I don't have a problem with the characters in theory, but their clumsy introduction broke suspension of disbelief, big time.

Particularly annoying and unbelievable was Nikki's "realization" in the Pearl hatch: "Hey guys, what are these other TV's for?" as if Locke were clueless enough to not realize there were other stations to view. And the "Eko's brother's body is in the wreckage" line, which seem as if it were hacked into the final edit with a stapler and paste.

I can't say whether or not I like them, but I strongly dislike the way they're written. I picture an executive at ABC pressuring the creators of Lost to add these characters based on ratings and market research, which might explain their abrupt and awkward entrance.

(BTW I loved Locke's pot farm flashback)I KNOW! I was like, "And how did she know that?" It was a totally lame line to give to her.

I found out that they used new writers for that eppy and it showed. Seasoned writers, I think, would have known better than to give a line like that to Nikki when it was well established that the only ones that knew about Yemmi's body were Eko and Charlie and since we'd never met Nikki before, throwing that line out there like maybe Charlie had confided in her just seemed too much of a stretch.

Well I think they will serve a purpose, I dont mind them. But I hate Paulo alot more. They should of just introduced More tailies, since were going to meet all the ones taken and Cindy and the kids in episode 8.

I miss Rose & Bernard, who have been invisible this season so that these two :complain: can have screentime!

Bring back Rose & Bernard--characters with SUBSTANCE!! :crybaby:

Although I don't particularly like them, I'll reserve my judgement until we find out that
Nikki is Jack's half sister, or something as far fetched as that, so then I'll be very annoyed and will detest the new characters with a passion...

I haven't read all of this thread, but I have to admit, I was not too found of Nikki and Paulo. What we have seen so far hasn't been much at all really and, as a result, does seem a bit pointless. However, then I read Terry O'Quinn's comment from this morning:


I poked a little fun in that response, but in truth, Paulo and Nikki have my sympathy. Their introduction was jarring to say the least, through no fault of theirs, and they haven't had much to do so far; haven't found their feet so to speak. It sounds a little odd, since Rodrigo and Kiele are on the best show on TV, to say that theirs is a thankless task, but so far they haven't been thanked much. I hope they get more comfortable and everyone gets more comfortable with them...................I reckon we'll see.

Thanks

T


I, for one, am willing to hold off any further judgement and just wait and see.

no need at all we've 2 many characters and unexplained unanswered questions already....but it looks like they're around 2 stay 4 a while anyway

I havent read all the posts, but the result speak for themselves.

I absolutely detested them right off the bat. Stale, uncalled for and unjustified, lol. I asked Gregg why the fresh faces and I wasnt happy with his reply, but I stayed polite. After all, he didnt make the decision and even if he didnt like it, he's too polite to openly say so. But I aint. I dont like them, period. I pray that they become Smokey's next rattler toys...

Have a good one, Namaste Eric.

Although I don't particularly like them, I'll reserve my judgement until we find out that
Nikki is Jack's half sister, or something as far fetched as that, so then I'll be very annoyed and will detest the new characters with a passion...



No. Claire is Jacks half sister maybe and Aaron is his nephew. The woman Christian tried to see in Austrailia was Claires mother and told Christian to go away!?? :confused:

I miss Rose & Bernard, who have been invisible this season so that these two :complain: can have screentime!

Bring back Rose & Bernard--characters with SUBSTANCE!! :crybaby:

Yeah they got dumped, so Niki/Paulo can appear. Sun/Jin too got dumped, 1 episode out of the 6. Wow cruel.

I'd rather see more Sayid, Sun Jin, Rose, and Bernard than these two new people. I was excited when I heard they were coming because I thought they were going to be Others. We have enough new people this season on that side. We don't need these two. I really don't want to see their flashbacks or anymore about them!

This is what Gregg replied.
http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=61330

I didnt say so, but there were already enough old "unfresh" faces ( Like some of you stated, Bernard and Rose etc) to keep us happy without P & N. The fact that new writers did the eppy doesnt give JJ or someone else the right to step in and say: "Hey! That Nikki line doesnt make sense! She isnt in the know, so change that will ya! Thanks!"

But nope. So it got the green light. I dont think they would tell us if they had pressure to introduce these characters, but the entrance failed. Juliet's character was well written in. Why the "rush" job? I just hope they dont stumble upon or discover something really important so to make us like them more!!!

P & N = Smokey toys, imho :biggrin: ;)

Namaste, Eric.

So far they seem annoying and pointless. Like Shannon and Boone only less cute and endearing. I'm really resenting the fact that Nikki & Paulo might get the S3 flashback before Sayid and Charlie.

Come back Ana Lucia all is forgiven!!

So far they seem annoying and pointless. Like Shannon and Boone only less cute and endearing. I'm really resenting the fact that Nikki & Paulo might get the S3 flashback before Sayid and Charlie.

Come back Ana Lucia all is forgiven!!Not me! While I'm not thrilled with Nikki and Paolo, I'll take double of them over one AL back again.

I just resent the fact that there already are characters that we haven't gotten nearly enough of that could have been used instead of these two new ones. I really would love to see more interaction with Rose and Bernard. We spent the whole first season wondering about this poor woman's husband and then, when we found out who he was, we waited that whole season for them to reunite and now ... they've been cast off like old shoes, last year's hem line, forgotten photos in a back drawer.

I just don't see the point other than they wanted to sex-up the show and R&B don't fit that bill. With Desmond, Locke, Sayid, Sawyer, Jin, Jack and Ben ... we've got all the sexy guys we need. Nikki I can see because we're down to Kate ... and she may not be available anymore after the show starts up again in Feb.

I voted that we don't need them. I'm so over them already. Literally, they could just not show up in a single other episode, and I'd be fine with that. No explanation needed. They just dissapeared back into their redshirtedness, that's all. Fine by me.

I voted 'we don't need them'. Like many have already said, I didn't like their clumsy introduction; riding roughshod over Hurley's return and his big news. And another thing: since when did the golf clubs belong to Paulo? I thought Hurley found them in the luggage. Anyway... I also agree the Pearl expedition could have done without them tagging along - Charlie would have been much more suited to Paulo's line about the toilet working, would have fitted with the snarky attitude we have come to know from him.

I really hope they don't get flashbacks before certain other oft-mentioned losties that we haven't seen nearly enough of this 6 episodes! Actually I don't want them to have flashbacks at all.

They really don't seem necessary at the moment. We have enough stories we're already juggling without adding 2 more. However, I trust TPTB will change my mind. They're usually brilliant like that. ;)


yes, thats what i think too. TPTB has a way of doing that!

I can't vote yet, but I don't like them and agree that they don't seem necessary so my vote is "not needed"
Why didn't they just let us keep Shannon and Libby instead of adding Nikki and Paulo ;)

Righty, I'm gonna agree that Paulo and Nikki have been crowbarred into the plot, for, as it has been stated, there is a dwindling number of people on the main beach.

I figure so many people dislike them because they are both introduced in negative positions:

Nikki Is introduced complaining at Hurley, who clearly looks troubled. (And lets face it, everyone loves watching Hurley.)
Paulo is introduced as a clueless questioning.. (I don't want to use the word fool) oaf .(much better word ^_^)
And in the next episode, EMFH When Desmond asks Paulo for the golf club he returns a snide comment. (something about getting killed in the jungle and not wanting to find it)

They've both been given roles that are meant to irritate us, I reckon.

Personally, I think they're playing the parts well, even though it seems like people think they are playing redshirts. I don't think they are going to get killed off anytime soon. For all we know, they might get the most interesting flashbacks yet.
Let TPTB decide, they haven't done us much wrong yet. :)

My vote would go to keep them in.
:cool:

No they are not needed. More screen time for the original cast members I say.

No, I don't think they're needed. It's hard to accept them if they were to become part of the main cast because they were introduced into the show so suddenly. I don't think their stories would be very interesting, and it would take forever for the flashbacks to show us what kind of people they are.

These two characters need to be eaten by the polar bear.
I just find their introduction and sudden infiltration into the Losties community on-camera annoying and forced.

If Paulo falls off of a cliff in the next new epi, it will be a blessing.

These two characters need to be eaten by the polar bear.
Can't we just give them to The Others? Maybe they'd give them a couple of babies! :D

No they are not needed. More screen time for the original cast members I say.

Yes! Cut them out, and maybe we'll see more of Sayid, Charlie, and Claire.

I voted: I want to see what they are like before i judge them

I agree that their introduction was a bit abrupt and the first time they showed up i was like ... who are they?? I really hope that (since they are propably staying for a while) they have good backstories. Nikki really annoys me though. Especially in the hatch she was a bit childish. "What are these tvs for? Horrey...I get to be involved!!". Paolo annoyed me too but after rewatching the episode i couldn't help but laugh when he got out of the bathroom. I'll give them some time though because they just came in and it's not easy to blend in.

As for Ana Lulu, I know many did not like her but i did.(not my favorite) So far only Kate seemed to have a bit of a spine in her and she is loosing it as time goes by and Ana Lulu's toughness was refreshing.

I voted "no" because, based on what we have seen of them so far, they do not have anything intelligent to say, nor have they contributed anything beneficial as of yet.....

However, TPTB have said that they do have a purpose which will be brought to light further down the road. I try to put my trust in TPTB because they've done a good job so far. But Nikki and Paulo are really bad so far.

A purpose? I hope it is not just to annoy us loyal viewers LOL!

Bluebear - I credit you for being so patient with these characters. In all seriousness, I cannot understand why TPTB would subject us to these nightmares if they aren't going to be of some significance later on -- for my sake, I hope they prove to be spies or traitors, so then when my polar bear eats them I won't feel so bad!! :D

I thought their intro was about the worst bit of writing on a show that excels at great dialogue and momentum. It was stilted and jarring.....but, they've barely been in it so I say wait and see. I'm sure they'll become much more interesting,,,,,as heroes or bear food.

They are evil. Keel zem. :D

Keel zem both...

I thought their intro was about the worst bit of writing on a show that excels at great dialogue and momentum. It was stilted and jarring.....but, they've barely been in it so I say wait and see. I'm sure they'll become much more interesting,,,,,as heroes or bear food.


LOLOL - yeah, the two of them just were thrust upon us viewers, and we were forced to accept that these nimrods had been interacting with Locke, Charlie, etc all the time. Maybe if they have a flashback episode, we'd accept them more because they'd have some temporal relation to our overall understanding of the current characters.

I'm a little more lenient with Nikki, but I DISPISE Paulo. In fact, I'm a part of a "Paulo Hate Club" on another forum.

Why??

Because their characters were just thrown into dialogue on the beach!! Had we seen them in the last two and a half years (or 60+ something days??) NO!! How are we supposed to have immediate interest in a new Lostie, when we have no emotional tie to them?

I want to find out what happened to Cindy, to Walt, to the other children, to the tailie adults BEFORE we are told there are other survivors that we were supposed to have known about.

Honestly, this isn't meant to be offensive to Rodrigo Santoro and the actress that plays Nikki. This isn't their fault. In fact, were I in their shoes, I'd be ecstatic that I landed roles on a hit tv show. However, TPTB have oddly written their characters, no real development in those first 6-episodes for either of those characters to be appreciated by the average viewer.

But honestly, TPTB expect me to like Paulo and sympathsize with him when the first time we see him he's shouting in Hurley's face?? Or another instance where he's a malcontent golfing instead of worrying about their fate.

Yeah, I really want to like him. Bah!!!

I voted: I want to see what they are like before i judge them.
We don't know anything about them, what is sure is that for the moment they are absolutely unnecessary. Howewer, before to judge, I prefer watching their backstories.

Honestly, this isn't meant to be offensive to Rodrigo Santoro and the actress that plays Nikki. This isn't their fault. In fact, were I in their shoes, I'd be ecstatic that I landed roles on a hit tv show.
I'm in agreeance with this. As hard as it is to believe from reading my pans, I have nothing against Rodrigo and Kiele. I wish them well on their future careers.

Whatever MAJOR importance TPTB have for these two characters in the storyline, I'm convinced those roles could've been filled by characters we already know and have invested our time and interest in! The "explanation" for why it is them is no doubt plausible and maybe even fascinating--but it will be as shoehorned in as the duo themselves have been. This just wasn't necessary. And it lessens the goodwill fans give TPTB and the show even more. Why do that?

Of course, the storyline's been set--and possibly has even commenced in the eppys filmed so far--so argument against it is moot. Still, I'm really mystified and appalled that they couldn't have just worked with the deep pool of talent they already had, instead of just tossing two more into the already-stretched airtime-wise cast.

SIGH. I know. I'm preaching to the choir. The short answer to the question asked in the subject line is still: NO.

I'm in agreeance with this. As hard as it is to believe from reading my pans, I have nothing against Rodrigo and Kiele. I wish them well on their future careers.

Whatever MAJOR importance TPTB have for these two characters in the storyline, I'm convinced those roles could've been filled by characters we already know and have invested our time and interest in! The "explanation" for why it is them is no doubt plausible and maybe even fascinating--but it will be as shoehorned in as the duo themselves have been. This just wasn't necessary. And it lessens the goodwill fans give TPTB and the show even more. Why do that?

Of course, the storyline's been set--and possibly has even commenced in the eppys filmed so far--so argument against it is moot. Still, I'm really mystified and appalled that they couldn't have just worked with the deep pool of talent they already had, instead of just tossing two more into the already-stretched airtime-wise cast.

SIGH. I know. I'm preaching to the choir. The short answer to the question asked in the subject line is still: NO.
:shesaid: Well said!

I like Nikki, the little we've seen of her I like and I think she fits in well, I hope she has a good story so the way she got into the group fits in.

Paulo just bugs the hell out of me and I want to see some Monster kicking some Paulo butt. He hasn't shown me anything to like about him yet. He's like a male version of AL.

no, we have way too many stories to get through as it is, thatare gonna take years !

I appreciate that TPTB have not disregarded those not in our "clique"

i know that is a vague statement but it's true.

i dont think they are needed at all. It just makes me wonder where they were the whole time if they were so keen on helping out...

i think it was quitue a random disiscion to add them because theyve obviously not been seen around before but i suppose at makes sense as a lot af characters being killed off

In the beginning, I hated them, and thought they were totally useless. After reading a bit more about them, and how "important" they are supposed to be, I guess I'm intrigued. The Adam and Eve theory is also interesting.

I cannot wait to find out more about them, Nikki especially. I bet they're going to have a really cool flashback and everyone will like her more after that. I might find a new favorite character. I really really hope they have something good in store for us.

I'm not completely sure what I think about them.
I really think that they could have introduced them better. If they had eased the two characters into the show instead of throwing characters we've never seen before into the action. Plus all of a sudden these characters appear and have lines! wow! I would like to see some of the background survivors have a line or two. It happened a little in Season 1 but not anymore.
Anyway I will watch and see if these characters have earned a place on this show and in my heart.:undecide:

NEWS!

...Kiele Sanchez is in final negotiations to join ABC's drama pilot "Football Wives," which revolves around women whose lives are transformed when they marry NFL superstars.

Sanchez will play the pregnant wife of a rising football star, a good-natured woman with a secret. The casting is in second position to her role on "Lost," which she joined this season in the recurring role of Nikki.


If this pilot flies. . . .

I hope that pilot flies!

Then its bye bye nikki... hopefully

They had practically no introduction whatsoever. How does anyone expect us to take them in?!! they are useless so far,the writers would really have to work hard to make them of some importance. We have so many great characters already. Let's stop with adding more, unless they are going to be great right off the bat, like Ben and Desmond.

Do you think the 2 new characters introduced in "Further Instructions" are needed on the show?
Do you like the look of them? Do you dislike them?


I like the look of Paulo, mm hm. But I don't like them.

I just think they came out of nowhere and should have at least been introduced better. I mean, we were trying to figure out what was going on and it's like they just threw those two in there. So it was like, 'And who in the world are they???' ya know?

They are kinda annoying.

But JJ and Damon act like they are going to become more important soon...

How can I complain about both of them when Nikki's actress is so hot. >_<

But yes, unless they prove to be useful, and I mean vastly Eko style useful to the whole integral plot, then they weren't needed.

It wouldn't matter what you will do with Pikki, the characters may end up still sucking.

Why waste time with bland new characters (a poor man's Kate and Sawyer) when there are so many exsisting characters which haven't been explored? I'd much rather find out more about Tom and Isabel (are they having a quick knee-trembler in the Hydra when Ben and Juliet aren't looking? :o) bet you a tenner they are!!!!

I really really really dislike Pikki.

i think they should die.. :rolleyes:

but i have this feeling that because of their flashbacks there goingto be important or somthingg.. pshh

whoever didnt see the new clip sawyer was playing ping pong and Nikki was agreeing with sun on somthing and then Sawyer just goes 'Who the hell are you?' that is the most hilarious thing ever. i was laughing so hard

I don't like them because they just appeared out of no where. So much of Lost depends on little things that were already there but we didn't know they were important. You can't just throw two new people in an go "They were there the whole time...yeah."

I don't mind Pikki at all. They appeared out of nowhere for a reason, I'm sure. TPTB would nit just introduce them for no reason.

The question is, will they ever get a board of their own in "season 3 characters?"

Probably not till we see if they're gonna SURVIVE Season 3!

I don't have a problem with the characters, but their introduction seemed forced.

I don't really think that they are needed, we have enough people already in my opinion.

I think the two characters are great. Add a bit of freshness to the show! There different and I know once there Flashback is on people will start to appreciate them more.

I know there is something important about them, or they wouldnt have been 'needed', so im just anxious to see what.:cool:

I love Nikki and Paulo.

I hope they are aroundtil the end, well Nikki for sure.

So..

Shannon and Boone are going to appear in their flashback. I'll get to see Shannon again one of my faves

So maybe Paulo and Nikki came in use for one thing anyway!

I like them. I dont really think that they are needed for the story line. But still that doesnt mean that they shouldnt be there

So long as TPTB create a decent enough payoff, all the speculation and time people have put into hating those two will have been worth it to me.

I feel that we don't know enough about them yet to really be able to have an opinion on them. I just hope the anticipation pays off...I'm sure it will :)

I would prefer a scene with Nikki in it over any of the other survivors. Although in my school I am definantly the #1 LOST fan, I would be mad if they killed her off, not only would it have been a waste but a let down; showing that because the fans don't like them that, they should just kill them off. I believe they will have an important storyline, just have to wait until this Wednesday

Well Expose just prooved that the two characters were useless and we could have done without them.

I voted 'I want to see what they are like before i judge them'. Now, that I've learned about their back story, and who they are, it's sort of sad. If Nikki didn't throw that spider on Paulo to get revenge on lying about taking the diamonds, I would have liked her. Was so stupid! I felt sorry for Paulo for being with her.

My new vote is now "No they're not needed, we have too many castmembers already." sadly.. they should have just stayed as a background/minor character.