Some odd things I noticed:

During Locke's vision, when Boone tells Locke he has to clean up his own mess (meaning Eko), he said 'they have him - you don't have much time? They?

At the very end of the sweat lodge scene, after the vision is over, Locke is sitting watching the flames flicker and the face of the comic-book polar bear shows briefly (it is quite apparent in slo-mo, but just a brief glimpse at normal speed). John then rushes out of the tent.

Kate's cage is different than Sawyers and looks like it was made for smaller animals. Chimps, maybe?

In the cave with Locke fighting off the polar bear, when it runs away it looks like it's crippled (look at it's back and hind-quarters).

Oldwiz

yeah i noticed that "they," too. ha, that's some kooky grammar on my part, apologies. anyway i mentioned it here:

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?p=1229985#post1229985

. Yes "They have him is correct"! It can't be a mere grammatical error. The clue is when James was told that the bears solved the cage/food test faster than he did. It makes it obvious that the biologically altered construct polar bears are intellegent enough to be the minions of Vincent and these multiple CGI bears are helping Vincent run the show. Check the comic book; it lays out the plot in detail.

Seriously that line did bother me. I expected Eko to turn up as a captive of the Others. They have him is both plural and indicative of a captive situation, not a solitary bear engaged in unnatural behavior by holding captive a late night snack.

Maybe the polar bears are manifestations of all the souls that have died on the Island? hehehe. No, seriously, I noticed that too and I was sort of expecting two polar bears doing a Ghost and the Darnkess type of thing.

There's two men in the polar bear costume. ;)

Actually, I heard that but by the time we got to Eko, I forgot about it. I thought the bear looked odd when it took off but I just chalked it up to behing hurt from the fire (I hated that moment) and it took off so scared that it didn't get its footing before it took flight.

I didn't notice the bear in the fire but did see the one that roared out just before the tent seemed to eject Locke. LOL

I noticed Kate's cage is small. Could be primates or maybe a few of the boar?

It couldn't be for chimps..too small, and it didn't have all the stuff chimps need. (a sort of playground with ropes and branches) I guess it was a smaller animal cage, an animal that didn't need the upper space, and just stays in the ground. I'm thinking wolves, foxes, or something like that

I really don't think that the bears are genetically altered to be smarter. Bears themselves are quite intelligent and with there being more than one of them in that cage they could have easily figured out how to get a fish biscuit. Polar bears are really smart.

I really don't think that the bears are genetically altered to be smarter. Bears themselves are quite intelligent and with there being more than one of them in that cage they could have easily figured out how to get a fish biscuit. Polar bears are really smart.

Yea, like the Einsteins of the bear community :biggrin:

I noticed Boone's "they have got him", but never gave it a thought... I mean just because we haven't seen the whole bear family, it doesn't mean that there wasn't a papa-bear and a mama-bear and some baby-bears LOL
Do bears live in communities or families or alone or what? :undecide:

He meant the polar bears. I'm sure he said so to someone else after his psycodelic experience in the sweat lodge. He said something like I gotta save Ecko from the bears.

Yea, like the Einsteins of the bear community :biggrin:

I noticed Boone's "they have got him", but never gave it a thought... I mean just because we haven't seen the whole bear family, it doesn't mean that there wasn't a papa-bear and a mama-bear and some baby-bears LOL
Do bears live in communities or families or alone or what? :undecide:Mother bears live with their young until they leave on their own. Adult bears are solitary. But one thing I thought interesting about brown bears (don't know if it's all bears) is that they will keep a mate for life, not live together all that time but mate over and over as the years go by. If I'm wrong on that, blame the show I saw that told me that. LOL

I just assumed there were more than two bears orginally loose on the island so there's two or more left now.

They have him.

Who has him?

Da bears.

Ok this is probably way too ridiculous a thought but still... How about the "they" is the second group of others, the ones I believe have the children and they work in league with all of the animals, polar bears etc? This would explain the "they" and why he was in the bear cave and also make me completely crazy! LOL

Ok this is probably way too ridiculous a thought but still... How about the "they" is the second group of others, the ones I believe have the children and they work in league with all of the animals, polar bears etc? This would explain the "they" and why he was in the bear cave and also make me completely crazy! LOLWell, when I first heard the line that's who I thought of. Then I thought maybe the animals are still under the Others' control and the bear did run back into the cave so it might just lead to the Others' Hydra area. :eek2:

This has been mentioned elsewhere but why are the polar bears so comic-bookish - they don't look at all like real polar bear faces. In fact, they look like a grizzly crossed with a wolf. It really bugs me that the CGI would be that bad, if that's what it is...

Oldwiz

Not polar bears ... Spirit bears. They have Indian mythology behind them as did the episiode (sweat lodges, loco weed, or whatever Locke ate). Spirit bears are thought by the indian mythology to be sent to remind man of tough times in the past, a reference to the ice age.

I think the bears, which were likely caged in Sawyer's cage, were trained to rescue people. Bears are very smart and very strong. If you want an animal to rescue a person, a bear is a logical choice. I think the spirit bear in the cave was protecting Eko after saving him. Other bears saved Locke and Desmond. Locke even said so.

Other animals appearing in Lost:
Sharks with the Dharma logo on the tail
Dolphins that we haven't seen but we saw the tank that Jack is being held in.

This has been mentioned elsewhere but why are the polar bears so comic-bookish - they don't look at all like real polar bear faces. In fact, they look like a grizzly crossed with a wolf. It really bugs me that the CGI would be that bad, if that's what it is...

Oldwiz

It was probably just that bad. Remember the shot of Sayid in the Iraqi desert at the end of One of Them. They shouldn't have even tried.

Not polar bears ... Spirit bears. They have Indian mythology behind them as did the episiode (sweat lodges, loco weed, or whatever Locke ate). Spirit bears are thought by the indian mythology to be sent to remind man of tough times in the past, a reference to the ice age.

I think the bears, which were likely caged in Sawyer's cage, were trained to rescue people. Bears are very smart and very strong. If you want an animal to rescue a person, a bear is a logical choice. I think the spirit bear in the cave was protecting Eko after saving him. Other bears saved Locke and Desmond. Locke even said so.

Other animals appearing in Lost:
Sharks with the Dharma logo on the tail
Dolphins that we haven't seen but we saw the tank that Jack is being held in.They're polar bears ... bad CGI or not. The DHARMA film that Locke and Desmond saw shows polar bears fighting on the ice. These are supposed to be polar bears to show the zoological connection to the DHARMA film and DHARMA. Other connections are the polar bear in the comic book Walt had and the toy polar bear that Michael gave Walt when he was a toddler.

Ok this is probably way too ridiculous a thought but still... How about the "they" is the second group of others, the ones I believe have the children and they work in league with all of the animals, polar bears etc? This would explain the "they" and why he was in the bear cave and also make me completely crazy! LOL

Just curious - what makes you think that the "other others" have the children? I recall Goodwin - who was clearly aligned with the others we have come to know, basically acknowledged to Ana-Lucia that they had taken the children. Or, at the least, that they were safe... not sure he would have said that had they been in the camp of what has been hypothesized as their sworn enemies.

Just curious - what makes you think that the "other others" have the children? I recall Goodwin - who was clearly aligned with the others we have come to know, basically acknowledged to Ana-Lucia that they had taken the children. Or, at the least, that they were safe... not sure he would have said that had they been in the camp of what has been hypothesized as their sworn enemies.Well, we know Goodwin was an Other and he knew that where the children had gone was better for them, so chances are pretty good that those that took the children are Others like he was.