Where is she? She's one of the others. How come we're not seeing her in S3 yet? She seemed much more interesting than Juliet and Colleen combined. I really hope we get to learn more about her and what she does. And what's so weird with her....

Very likely the same reason we didn't see Rose for so much of Season 1 -- the actress isn't available.

Very likely the same reason we didn't see Rose for so much of Season 1 -- the actress isn't available.

She isn't available, you're right. But she'll be back, says Damon.

i dont understand what was so wierd about ms. clugh....she was stupid to me, i dont know just my opinion. but she didn't do to much yet so whats the big deal?

she's so charismatic. i hope we'll see her again soon. she also seems important among the others so i was wondering where she is. maybe she's with the children somewhere.

she's so charismatic. i hope we'll see her again soon. she also seems important among the others so i was wondering where she is. maybe she's with the children somewhere.

Oh, good idea! And I suppose that's true about the actress not being available. I just hope we get to see her again sometime, soon.

Yes I can't wait to see her again and I'm glad Colleen was the one killed and not her.

Yes I can't wait to see her again and I'm glad Colleen was the one killed and not her.

Me too. Perhaps the reason shes not here, is she was orignally going to die and not Colleen, maybe they are still planning what to do with her, so shes not showing up yet.

Me too. Perhaps the reason shes not here, is she was orignally going to die and not Colleen, maybe they are still planning what to do with her, so shes not showing up yet.

Yeah I'm hoping for a Ms Klugh FB epi so we can find out what they do to the children and what happened to Walt.

what happened to Walt

He took tests, duh! :) :biggrin:

April Grace's most recent credit on IMDb is for a moving called Choose Conor that's listed as being in post-production.

I can't wait to see Bea again, I'd love to see her interact with Tom again.

He took tests, duh! :) :biggrin:


Oh yeah that's right and they put him in a room. Yeah case closed we don't need to know anything else. :biggrin:

Oh yeah that's right and they put him in a room. Yeah case closed we don't need to know anything else

Hahahahaha. It would sure make being a fan of this show easier, wouldn't it? :) Yeah, the Bea/Walt/tests situation is very mysterious at this point and I really miss Malcolm David--he had such great interactions with John, for example. I wonder if he'll be mad at John for ignoring his warning about breaking in to the hatch?

Hahahahaha. It would sure make being a fan of this show easier, wouldn't it? :) Yeah, the Bea/Walt/tests situation is very mysterious at this point and I really miss Malcolm David--he had such great interactions with John, for example. I wonder if he'll be mad at John for ignoring his warning about breaking in to the hatch?

Oh yeah, I do wonder what Walt would think about John ignoring the warning and all the other events around the hatch. You know, I just rewatched the pilot recently though and MDK does look a lot older, I have my doubts that we will actually see him again, it'll probably me something along the lines of one the children talking about Walt to Ms klugh or Bea talking to ben about Walt, something like that.

Oh yeah, I do wonder what Walt would think about John ignoring the warning and all the other events around the hatch. You know, I just rewatched the pilot recently though and MDK does look a lot older, I have my doubts that we will actually see him again, it'll probably me something along the lines of one the children talking about Walt to Ms klugh or Bea talking to ben about Walt, something like that.

They can recast Walt?

If they were smart, they should of filmed them early, but I dont think they could do that. But its a good idea.

They can recast Walt?.

That's true, but the new actor better look a lot like MDK or else we're going to get a million threads about how the new Walt is actually a clone! :biggrin:

If they were smart, they should of filmed them early, but I dont think they could do that. But its a good idea.


That would be nice if they would have secretly been filming those flashbacks between Walt and the Others. Or he can come back and at least pretend to be young. He can't have changed too drastically.

Even before Walt was taken I kind of felt sorry for the writers because of MDK's age and growth over the years.

Or he can come back and at least pretend to be young. He can't have changed too drastically.

That's exactly how I used to think, but what the pilot and then immediately watch the walt scene in three minutes, it's quite noticeable and now he's had anothe half year or so to grow. Wait a second, didn't TPTB say they would explain Walt's aging in the storyline, if so, nevermind about Walt looking older.

That's true, but the new actor better look a lot like MDK or else we're going to get a million threads about how the new Walt is actually a clone!

[GROAN] I can't decide which type of thread makes me :rolleyes: more, the "so and so is a clone!" or the "person in a flashback is so and so on the Island!" threads.

Even before Walt was taken I kind of felt sorry for the writers because of MDK's age and growth over the years

I'm sure they went with the best actor they could find, by I can't see any compelling reason that Walt *had* to be 10 in 9/04. Why not cast a guy who'd gone through puberty already, that was, say, 15 or so?

I'm sure they went with the best actor they could find, by I can't see any compelling reason that Walt *had* to be 10 in 9/04. Why not cast a guy who'd gone through puberty already, that was, say, 15 or so?

I'd guess it would be for the cuteness factor of a ten year old, Walt was adorable :)

That's true, but the new actor better look a lot like MDK or else we're going to get a million threads about how the new Walt is actually a clone! :biggrin:
Yup - that would be worse than when they recast Becky on Roseanne!

It is also quite interesting because April Grace's IMDB profile lists her as being in A Tale of Two Cities, however, IMDB isn't always the most reputable.

Yeah she definately wasnt in that episode...

where are you ms klugh? maybe shes with the tailie kids

she might be a teacher of some sorts

I hope we see Ms Klugh soon. I think the next time we see her it will reveal something important to the plot, such as the what is happening to the children, but maybe even something else.

I'm sure they went with the best actor they could find, by I can't see any compelling reason that Walt *had* to be 10 in 9/04. Why not cast a guy who'd gone through puberty already, that was, say, 15 or so?

On Lost in season 1, there was a diversity in the range of cast members that doesn't exsist anymore, and that means kids and animals. I mean if you think about it, wouldn't there be more than just adults traveling on a plane? I liked the kind of feel the cast had with a kid, and a dog. It felt more realistic and (oddly) likeable, because Walt was so cute and so was Vincent. We've got the baby now, but that's just not the same, at all. I'd love it and I think it would take off some tenseness and "shippingness" if there were more kids on Lost. Because kids watching Lost would also relate. That was a plus about season 1.

I hope we see Ms Klugh soon. I think the next time we see her it will reveal something important to the plot, such as the what is happening to the children, but maybe even something else.

Yeah, I have the feeling they'll only reveal her when they have to explain what happened to Walt. But I hope there's more to her storyline and screentime than that. We'll just have to wait, watch and see, as Gregg says.

For fans of Bea Klugh > April Grace, maybe *this* helps explain why she hasn't been available to film LOST:

http://www.scifi.com/lostroom/cast/grace/

The miniseries (starts Monday) looks interesting and it does have the most gorgeous man in the known universe in it, Peter Krause, so I'm going to record it and give it a try.

Hummmm. . .so Ms. Grace likes to act in projects with "Lost" in the title!

Bodes well for her return to this show, then! :71:

Is her name meant to be telling us SHE is a major 'clue' (Klugh) or a 'missed' clue? Which of course amounts to the same thing!

I hadn't really bothered with the fact Ms Klugh hadn't been shown in the show as yet, though I am now :P. Also she was in A tale of two cities, she's shown in the recap of the Series 2 finale on the Jetty. :)

Distress Signal, I :heart: your avi!! Locke as the embodiment of the :hissy: emoti! :24:!! Great creative work! :clapping:

Bet we see Bea Klugh again before the season's out. She's probably in/near Otherville. When/if we get back to Otherville, there she'll be!

Distress Signal, I :heart: your avi!! Locke as the embodiment of the :hissy: emoti! :24:!! Great creative work! :clapping:

Bet we see Bea Klugh again before the season's out. She's probably in/near Otherville. When/if we get back to Otherville, there she'll be!

Me too. I'm sure she will be back, its just the actress is busy with other work, same deal with why Rose/Bernard haven't turned up they are busy with other work.

I also had this theory she is part of another group of others, or is with the children. But theres probaly another reason she isn't around.

I am not pleased with how they killed off Ms Klugh. They could have used any random other in that scene. What a waste of a good, intriguing character. :mad:

Yeah, I'm kinda bummed too. She was definitely an interesting character. Probably because we know so little about her. She seemed to be in control in LTDA and 3 minutes and seemed to be ordering Patchy to kill her, but she also seemed very scared. When Sayid caught her, she definitely did not seem like the confident woman we saw in Season 2. I was glad to see Kate get some revenge though. The look on her face when she recognized her was priceless!

They intended to kill Bea Klugh during the 6-eppy arc. But April Grace wasn't available for filming then. So they killed her in this last eppy. I suppose they thought they made her death "noble" by having her die rather than talk. But I think this was handled as badly as they handled Eko's death (notwithstanding that AAA wanted to leave the show pronto).

Hopefully, whatever they reveal is the reason people would die rather than talk will be worthy of the sacrifice. Alas, I fear that they'll make what no one wants to talk about was ironically-a-misconception, people-were-lied-to thing that'll make her (and other) deaths (and lives) pointless. Rats.

I think her death was good. She was just a guest star who had been in two episodes previously and not even in a very major role. And she won Kate in a fight. Awesome!

I was kind of shocked when she was shot. I wonder what they were saying to each other and if she actually told him to shoot her and not shoot Locke, Sayid or Kate. Seems kind of strange, what would be the gain from killing herself?

This is the dialogue (from Lostpedia):

Klugh: Mikhail. Mikhail! You know what to do.
Mikhail: We still have another way [out].
Klugh: We cannot risk. You know the conditions.
Mikhail: There is another way.
Klugh: They captured us. We will not give (or let, or betray) [unintelligible].
Klugh: You know what to do. It is an order.
Mikhail: We still have another way!
Klugh (in English): Just do it, Mikhail.
Mikhail: Forgive me. (shoots)

It's in Russian.

My question is, what was her character's purpose being there and then getting killed so inconsequently? They could have done that with another character. If she was supposed to get killed off in the mini-season, then TPTB don't see her as an important character, do they? I did. She was in charge of Walt and she was damn creepy, so I hung on to her character progressing and revealing things.

I'm just wondering at this point what purpose her character served being introduced and killed when she looked so interesting. Maybe just to scare Michael? An extra other who just happens to get the limelight with what they're doing?

so she was one of the Hostiles?

My question is, what was her character's purpose being there and then getting killed so inconsequently? They could have done that with another character. If she was supposed to get killed off in the mini-season, then TPTB don't see her as an important character, do they? I did. She was in charge of Walt and she was damn creepy, so I hung on to her character progressing and revealing things.

I'm just wondering at this point what purpose her character served being introduced and killed when she looked so interesting. Maybe just to scare Michael? An extra other who just happens to get the limelight with what they're doing?

I think being killed off was her point. Originally she was there to be the Colleen, but the actress was unavailable. That was to serve Sun's character. So she was killed off now to serve the current storyline. She was made to die. That was her purpose.

Besides, the actress' availability? Pathetic. They couldn't get her to even film her own death until now.

The thing is, even though she was a guest star, Ms Klugh was a very dynamic and intriguing character. And importantly they linked her to the Walt mystery which a lot of people want to find out about. Ben was supposed to be a guest star for a few episodes, but TPTB recognised his appeal and kept him on, they decided not to do this with Ms Klugh, which is why people on this thread are disappointed because she had a lot of potential to be a important character on the island.

In terms of her availability, that is also to due to the low priority TPTB have given Ms Klugh. What would you do if you were given an offer for a major role in a mini-series that might turn into a full fledged tv series vs an offer from Lost to star in one episode and be killed? Of course she would take the job with more work, more pay and a potential role in a continuing series. If TPTB wanted Ms Klugh they could have made the offer more enticing to get her back on the show.

The death of Ms. Klugh makes me think that every death of an Other could possibly be a very, very bad thing and the Losties don't realize it.

Probably my favorite character......and now.....:cry:

Add me to the list of those not happy with Bea being whacked. She was definitely an interesting character and now it seems they killed her off to delay revisiting Walt's story. *sigh*

Goodbye, Bea Klugh, we hardly knew ya. :down:

I wonder if they killed her prematurely to leave open the possibility for her backstory to unravel through flashbacks...sort of like Ethan's has?

Wow, you're taking it awful calmly, Get A Klugh! :)

Yeah, characters never die on LOST, they just show up in flashbacks. I'm sure that when they get around to dealing with Walt, we'll see April Grace again.

Wow, you're taking it awful calmly, Get A Klugh! :)

Well, I still have: Alex, Danielle, Sun, Juliet, Sawyer, Rose, Benry, Cindy, Karl, Isabel, and Mikhail.

Now if they kill off or bench EVERYONE from that list, then I'll be a really unhappy camper!

Yeah, characters never die on LOST, they just show up in flashbacks. I'm sure that when they get around to dealing with Walt, we'll see April Grace again.

Bring on Creepy Day Care!!!!! :biggrin:

Bring on Creepy Day Care!!!!!Hahaha. I'm curious what kinds of tests they made Walt take.

:mad: :mad:
I can't belive that Ms Klugh has been "killed off". She was the best and most interesting of all "Others" bar Juliet.

I hope they right it so she survived, and was rescued by an onlooking Other who took her back to Jack who Saved her.

First Shannon, then Libby, now Bea all my favs are going.

First Shannon, then Libby, now Bea all my favs are going.

Welcome to my world. :24:

Anyway, I don't know any spoilers but I'm pretty sure we'll find more about her through the other Others. ;)

Yeah, my world with guest stars too! :D First there was the marshal and I was like, oooh, nice ***hole type of guy, I like him. Let's hope he makes it out of that wound. BANG. Thank you, Sawyer.

Then there was Ethan and I was like this guy is so awesome, scary and bad***. I love him. Then BANBBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG. Dammit.

Not too long afterwards, I was like WOW, this Arzt guy is SO funny! I love him! Let's hope he sticks aro-- BOOOOOmmm!! Well, there you go.

Then at the end of Season Two: YAY, this Pickett guy looks really fantastic! Here's for a big role for him next season! And then the mini-season starts; ooh mama, lots of Picketty goodness! I'm a happy camper. Dude, he had a big role in the mini-season. Let's hope it gets bigger after the break. Break over and LOOKIE, there's Pickett in full-action, I love this stuff, really-- BANGBANGBANG. Oh, lovely. Here we go again. :rolleyes:

Such is my luck with guest stars. :p

If TPTB wanted Ms Klugh they could have made the offer more enticing to get her back on the show.

Which means that they really didn't want her. :biggrin: Nah, her storyline was to die in Season Three and that's all the plans that were made for her. Such happens. I'm glad that her role wasn't bestowed to Pickett though. At least he had a very big role before going. Klugh didn't really. Which is sort of a shame.

Hahaha. I'm curious what kinds of tests they made Walt take.

Who can basket-weave the fastest? :biggrin: :biggrin:

Who can basket-weave the fastest? Hahaha, in that case, Alex will win hands down. :D

To me, it's obvious that Ms. Klugh (RIP) was part of whatever was left of the parapsychology component of DHARMA, investigating things like remote viewing.

*sigh* I miss Waaaaaaaallllllllllttttttttttt.