What was the purpose of season 2? We go through an entire season mostly
focused on the tail section only to kill them all...There was so much they
could have done with our main characters but all of that was taken away
to focus on the tail secton group....and now I feel like they just want it
all to disappear.

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But the thread starter is absolutely right about the second season. The same amount of story could easily have been done in a third as many episodes. And it would have been a lot tighter.

It would be refreshing, when this show has run its course, for the producers/creators to have a post mortem podcast that was candid on why the wheels fell of this series. They don't have to apologize. But, I would expect something along the lines of:

a. we originally created Lost to run a year or two, not realizing it would be a potential mega-hit.
b. the real owners of the show (network?) told us to revamp our original concept to run for as many seasons as profitable.
c. story arcs such as the tailies and the hatch were cooked up as we went along to accomplish (b).
d. the same goes for repetitive flash backs that offer nothing new about the main characters and obvious "filler" episodes.
e. yes, there are indeed many plots holes and inconsistancies. we just couldn't work around them given the pressures of deadlines, budgets and actors moving on to greener pastures.

It would be refreshing, when this show has run its course, for the producers/creators to have a post mortem podcast that was candid on why the wheels fell of this series.

Actually, I don't have to hear the writers admit this to know all of those points are spot on. :undecide:

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The tailies I can see. Many of them had an impact on the story and I'm sure we haven't seen the last of them yet. The thing that bugs me is the Swan in general. Sure we got Desmond out of it, and I'm positive he will be a huge cog in the grand sceme of things.

However, the Swan doesn't seem to have much to do with the island thus far. Huge purple implosion and nothing seems to have changed. Perhaps we will learn of the far reaching consequesces, but so far it seems like a lot of nothing. They could have introduced Desmond and the Swan and concluded the whole hatch business in half the episodes if it wasn't going to be a big deal.

Season 2 was far from pointless. It introduced us to DHARMA, the others, and took the focus off of fighting for survival (at least for a little while). However...

I don't think Libby and Ana Lucia should've been killed. Imagine how much more interesting this season would be with them. Especially Ana with her extreme hatred towards the others. She would've trained her freakin' army. :biggrin: Did I mention how hot she is?

Yeah I think I'm one of the few who didn't hate Ana Lucia at all. I remember people were making a big deal because she threw a rock at Sawyer, and well he deserves to be hit with a rock once in awhile. I gianed new respect for her character in the other 48 days, she was a real leader and had to deal with things a lot worse then Jack did. I kind of wish she was still around, I mean with her and Sayid leading a group aganist the others. It would be great, but oh well.

Anyway Season 2 basically brought up old demonds-Charlie and his heroine, Locke losing his faith again, Eko one of the best characters they had, and while the Swan is gone, Season 2 did a lot of introducing the others better then they did in Season 1, we saw the monster, found about more hatches and Dharma, and of course Desmond and Penny. Season 2 wasn't worthelss it had some great episodes and did contribute a lot towards the story.

I think the tailies in season 2 accomplished many developments of the story...
1. It introduced the DHARMA Initiative, the Arrow and Pearl stations which the tailies were involved with.
2. It bought new dynamics into the group, as much as some people didn't like Ana Lucia, she did create a shift in the power.
3. We wouldn't have known the origins of the drug plane without Eko.
4. Libby seems to be important to the story, we're yet to see how important.
5. Realtionships.... Rose & Bernard, Libby and Hurley.
6. The survivors who the Others took are sure to crop up in some way.
7. The death of Shannon.

Season 2 had its up and downs.. some episodes were fantastic and some were pointless but you get that with every program.

I remember hearing Damon or JJ say
That Lost is a bus ride they know where they came from they know where they are going to, they are just gonna have a few stops on the way.

Also if you saw the latest podcast, the taillies are not all gone. We should see Cidney and the two kids in episode 8

Also if you saw the latest podcast, the taillies are not all gone. We should see Cidney and the two kids in episode 8

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I think the tailies in season 2 accomplished many developments of the story...
1. It introduced the DHARMA Initiative, the Arrow and Pearl stations which the tailies were involved with.
2. It bought new dynamics into the group, as much as some people didn't like Ana Lucia, she did create a shift in the power.
3. We wouldn't have known the origins of the drug plane without Eko.
4. Libby seems to be important to the story, we're yet to see how important.
5. Realtionships.... Rose & Bernard, Libby and Hurley.
6. The survivors who the Others took are sure to crop up in some way.
7. The death of Shannon.

Agreed... I don't think the wheels have ever fallen off the show. Indeed, I fully expect if Damon and Carlton do a post-mortem after the show's over in Season 4 or 5 they'll be crowing over how well it all came together. Whether people agree is another matter. I for one already think they have all the reason in the world to be proud of what they've accomplished, even where they've taken a chance and missed.

Rewatching the first season last week on vacation it was amazing to see how all the conflicts had evolved: in the first season a lot of the conflicts were between the Lostiies themselves or the Losties against the Island. In the second as they grew to become a family and they understood and accepted the weirdness of their new home, the conflicts became more internalized which is less entertaining television but richer literature.
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However, the Swan doesn't seem to have much to do with the island thus far. Huge purple implosion and nothing seems to have changed. Perhaps we will learn of the far reaching consequesces, but so far it seems like a lot of nothing. They could have introduced Desmond and the Swan and concluded the whole hatch business in half the episodes if it wasn't going to be a big deal.

Well... I think the Swan's purpose was to be the metaphor for the faith vs. empiricism/science debate going on internally among all the Losties. Worked for som viewers such as myself but not for all.

Damon said on a podcast,

that there will be consequences this season to the failsafe being activated. I think it was Kelvin who asked Desmond if he had the courage to take his finger from the hole in the dam and watch the whole works go up... we'll just have to wait, watch and see what happens.

Sorry about the spoiler slipped my mind although it's not like it was groundbreaking stuff

As one of those few out there who liked season 2 better than season one, I'll chip in.

To me, Lost really hit its stride in developing a mythology in season 2. Yes, there were interestering/weird/mythological elements in the first season, but it was mainly focused on character development. The impetus of season 2 seemed to be, "OK, now that our audience knows and cares about these characters, we're going to get them heavily involved in a deep mythology. Oh, and we're going to really mess with our characters too."

In addition to the other things people have mentioned about the purpose of the Tailies, I think we came to see Hurley as a mult-faceted character and not just the comic relief. Comic relief doesn't cry, doesn't grieve like Hurley. So that character got a lot deeper in season 2 and largely because of what happened with Libby.

In addition there are all of the mythological elements that could only have been introduced via the tailies (more abductions of kids, abductions period).

The Swan played a huge role in letting us know just how much was going on with this island.

So those are my thoughts on that.

Sorry about the spoiler slipped my mind although it's not like it was groundbreaking stuff


Its still a spoiler, and some of us dont want to know these things!!!!!!!!!! And thank you mods for editing it!

Sorry about the spoiler slipped my mind although it's not like it was groundbreaking stuff

"groundbreaking" or not isnt the point. spoilers are spoilers. posting spoilers outside of the spoiler area without spoiler font is warnable. please use care in the future. thank you.

Suspend your disbelief. There's no reason for criticism. The writers of the show are portraying a story. Cutting episodes, and doing things in half the time would make it a completely diffrent story. Think about it. Without season two everyone wouldn't have fallen in love with Eko's character, thus his death wouldn't have been as heart wrenching or sad to see without those experiences, had we just cut out half the season.

Plus Shannon got killed! They could have done nothing else all season 2 and as long as that happened I would have been happy!

Imagine how much more interesting this season would be with them. Especially Ana with her extreme hatred towards the others. She would've trained her freakin' army. :biggrin: Did I mention how hot she is?
Oh I could definitely see her character going places! She had so much anger and angst stored up in her, I would have loved to have seen it unleashed on the Others! :w00t:

Sorry about the spoiler slipped my mind although it's not like it was groundbreaking stuff
I tend to read the occasional spoiler or visit the spoiler board for a quick look-see BUT I do respect the spoiler-free set and for those that are spoiler-free, those comments WERE groundbreaking and a very big deal.

The problem with leaking spoilers where they aren't supposed to be posted is that once you've done it, no matter how truly sorry you are, you have "spoiled" future episodes for who knows how many viewers. :frown:

We're not going to string you up! But please be more careful in the future .... Carry on! :happy:

Plus Shannon got killed! They could have done nothing else all season 2 and as long as that happened I would have been happy!
Why did that event make you so happy??? :confused:

I'm with FaithPrevails on the Shannon thing, haha. I absolutely couldn't stand her character. I remember my girlfriend looking at me in horror when I actually cheered when she was shot, lol.

I think we came to see Hurley as a mult-faceted character and not just the comic relief. Comic relief doesn't cry, doesn't grieve like Hurley. So that character got a lot deeper in season 2 and largely because of what happened with Libby.

Hurley grieves? Oh, forgot about that little bit last season because you'd never be able to tell his character was developed at all with how he's been this season.

Hurley grieves? Oh, forgot about that little bit last season because you'd never be able to tell his character was developed at all with how he's been this season.
I know, wouldn't Hurley still be grieving Libby plus be completely freaked out and knocked off kilter by the news that Michael is the one who killed her??? :eek2:

Who says he isn't? Honestly I don't think we have not seen enough of Hurley yet to make a conclusion that the writers are glossing over his grief/anger.

Making fruit salad 24/7 is a rather unique way of dealing with grief. But, hey, who am I to say it doesn't work? :rolleyes: