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Karri
02-14-2007, 05:00 PM
What did you think? Rate it and then discuss the good and the bad. :)

xero
02-14-2007, 09:02 PM
Perfect 10! WOW!

The Shapeshifter
02-14-2007, 09:08 PM
I agree, perfect 10! This one blew me away like few others have. My mind is still boggling over the implications.

Zutroy
02-14-2007, 09:10 PM
Very much in the Top 3 of all Lost episodes to this point. Awesome!

Carlo210
02-14-2007, 09:42 PM
I like! Didn't reveal the whole spectrum of the issue (how DID he get naked?), and he didn't really go back in time, he just re-lived parts of his past.

Great Epi! /dance

R S Lee
02-14-2007, 09:43 PM
There are no words to describe how awesome this episode was.

pacejunkie
02-14-2007, 11:03 PM
My head is still trying to get around what the implications are. But I loved it. Weird stuff.

GettinLost
02-14-2007, 11:03 PM
This was one of those episodes that make you go, "HHHHHmmmmm...."

KCJenna
02-14-2007, 11:05 PM
Now this one I'd rate as "Best episode ever". Fan-TAS-tic

Joshypoo
02-14-2007, 11:06 PM
It's a Beau Derrick episode - 10!!!! Just when you think the writers are going in one direction - they completely pull a fast one and you're going down some weird road you never dreamed of! Bravo!

Diesels Blitz
02-14-2007, 11:06 PM
Great episode! We'll need a lot of time to figure out this one! :)

sheba
02-14-2007, 11:14 PM
Absolutely, one of the best.

See ... Lost doesn't need Jack to be great. :)

Dezdmona
02-14-2007, 11:16 PM
I rarely give 10's but this Episode got a 10.
AWEsome, simply AWEsome.

palomino_grl78
02-14-2007, 11:18 PM
Absolutely, one of the best.

See ... Lost doesn't need Jack to be great. :)


I completely agree. Any episode with Desmond in it gets a 10. It wasn't perfect, but great nonetheless.

God's tom
02-14-2007, 11:18 PM
Definately one of the all time best episodes! Next week looks even better!

jennylee27
02-14-2007, 11:19 PM
I really liked it, and am pleased that we seem to have been given a big chunk of answer.

However, I was a bit thrown off by the imbalance between time on island and time in flashbacks. Also, I just don't connect personally with Desmond to the same extent I do with other characters - and of course, that's just a personal preference thing.

lockesmithe
02-14-2007, 11:22 PM
The Pilot is still my touchstone for Lost episodes. This one gets a 9 out 10, though. Way out there, and well done.

ame en peine
02-14-2007, 11:23 PM
Loved this episode... Definitely the best of the season to date...

Awkward Silence
02-14-2007, 11:26 PM
This is one of the EXTREMELY few episodes of Lost that has managed to completely blow me away. Easily a perfect ten, and I rarely rarely give away a rating like that.

Lija
02-14-2007, 11:29 PM
I enjoyed this ep too, although I wouldn't say it was one of the best.
However, I liked getting "some answers" although they weren't really answers, were there? ha. I loved it when that woman said "no, you don't take the ring." I thought that was great.
And of course it all explains why Des was so mad when Charlie called him a coward.

*applause!* for tonight's show.

lostgurl
02-14-2007, 11:30 PM
10! I loved that we got some Charlie and Hurley time, yay! I'm also glad Sayid finally got some screentime.
I need to watch it a few times to figure the rest out. The Desmond/Penny stuff was very sad. I hate that Charlie has this big dark cloud over him now, I reallyyy don't want him to die.. take Claire instead!

sickotriz
02-14-2007, 11:31 PM
9/10. Absolutely awesome. And I was surprised at the twist at the end.

Really I would rate this 10/10, but I'm being modest. There was so much that this eposode did well... I could be here all night.

lostnthesoutheast
02-14-2007, 11:34 PM
I loved it! But it was kind of weird too. It was like Lost, but not. It was like a super-awesome alternate-universe Lost. I'm still reeling from it, but I gave it a 10. Very Twightlight Zone like, but in a really great way.

Poor Charlie. I wonder if any of this ties in with Eko too. It is almost like Lock's polar bear rescue was poitnless too, because Eko was meant to die. I don't know, but this episode really opens the doors for a whole new set of questions, doesn't it.

wolffootball37
02-14-2007, 11:38 PM
it was great, only reason i gave it a 9 was because i dont compleatly understand everything, but it really was incrediable, and ive noticed theyve really got up their A-Game on the writing front, Desmond, Charlie, and Hurley need there own show!

lostoholic
02-14-2007, 11:45 PM
Excellent writing. Great epi! Will need to watch that again......will be fun.

annie_monica
02-14-2007, 11:48 PM
I could have died, my face was so red tonight...:heart::heart::heart::heart::heart: one of THE most revealing IMO

LostLaura
02-14-2007, 11:59 PM
FABULOUS. Rated it a 10. Doesn't mean it's my all-time favorite or anything, but I'm just not sure how they could have possibly improved it. (Well, maybe Charlie being slightly less annoying...;))

Vertical
02-15-2007, 12:19 AM
I'm still debating what to rate this one. I can't decide if it was just really bizarre, or if it was really well done. It may require a second viewing. Something I haven't done since Lockdown.

AJHeuer
02-15-2007, 12:35 AM
Great episode. Just captivating from the moment Desmond's "flashback" begins to his big reveal to Charlie. Reminded me of watching Season 1 on DVD and just being drawn in. I don't really wanna try to figure it out, I just want to absorb it.

Bravo, TPTB!

briar910
02-15-2007, 12:42 AM
I was debating between a 9 and a 10, but I rounded up. ;)
And I don't know if I'd give many other episodes a 10, besides the Pilot. This episode was pretty mind-blowing.

SeaKing100
02-15-2007, 12:53 AM
Tonight's episode was great. Damon and Carlton have been talking about game changing episodes and this was the biggest "game changer" we have seen in a while - at least since Tale of Two Cities. As far as Island mythology, discussion points, and shock value goes this episode went off the charts!

Hard to say if this will stack up with some of the other phenomenal episodes once it is all said and done, though, as there are so many facets of this show to be into!

PTD
02-15-2007, 01:07 AM
I was extremely pleased with this episode (9/10). Finally got back to the type of Lost episode that made the show so fantastic to watch and re-watch. I haven't felt that way in a long time!

lostfan4ever
02-15-2007, 01:38 AM
More Desmond/Charlie/Hurley pretty please? They make a great team.

drmark7
02-15-2007, 01:44 AM
Not too long into the episode, I was sitting there thinking... The old Lost magic is BACK! 10 stars! Loved it. Mark

LostDuckie7
02-15-2007, 02:02 AM
Wow! Absolutely a 10. This had everything in it that I watch Lost for!

Mr. Find
02-15-2007, 02:08 AM
An instant-classic episode!!!

Beta
02-15-2007, 02:13 AM
Nice twisty-twisties. This episode probably gave more insight, answered more questions, and advanced the story more than any other episode. But I thought having the lady just flat out explain everything to Desmond was less interesting than if they had cut out at “no, you will not buy the ring but walk out” line and left it hanging as another mystery to be resolved later.

This seems to be an episode that caters to those that want some answers now. And it did a hell of a good job on that. But there wasn’t really any character development, no insight to a character’s personality, not much correlation to events on the island, not much relationship development.

Of course, I’m comparing this to the best season one episodes where all of these things were rolled into one episode and they were magnificent. It seems Lost has broken into episodes that cater to certain desires: shippers, mythologizes, story progresses, wow-factors, character learners, etc. Season one seemed to have episodes that rolled all of those into one. Now we get episodes that concentrate mostly on one of those. I guess that is OK for the long run.

This was a great episode for the “story progress”. I thought it moved forward too fast. But there are SO MANY things to explain that just having an old lady come out and explain things doesn’t hinder the mystery. And, as Lost is wont to do, the revelations only create more mysteries and speculation.

So, all around, very good episode. :)

Guinevere
02-15-2007, 02:14 AM
I loved the mythology that continued the time theme or lost time theme as well as free will vs predestination. Also, I think this will serve as a wonderful bridge between the first 7 episodes and the coming episodes. Kudos to the writers! :clapping:

DrUrbino
02-15-2007, 02:21 AM
I thought it was an excellent episode. :)

sk8rpro
02-15-2007, 03:59 AM
I had to give it a 10. The philosophy of possible time-loops is mind - boggling. This should have been assigned as a possible supplement to the assigned readings in a philosophy class, and discussed in a class lecture.

AnalogKid
02-15-2007, 04:13 AM
This was great...probably the best episode this season. A bit too much off-island stuff maybe, but it served a purpose. The implications are fairly staggering.

DeadMouse
02-15-2007, 04:14 AM
I rated this episode a 7.

While it was a really good episode and I was definately intrigued by it all, it almost seemed like after you realize that Desmond more than likely dreamed all of this stuff about his prior life, which was the meat and potatoes of this episode, it was almost kind of pointless and really didn't push the overall storyline all that far. It was almost like the anti-flashback flashback. It was however a very novel approach at a part of the show (the flashbacks) that has become very tired as of late and almost irrelevant. So for that, I give the writers a B for pulling a rabbit out of the hat, but it's the same trick, just different hand waving.

And like a few others pointed out, while it seemed like this episode answered some questions, I don't feel it answered anything at all in regards to the big picture. Sure, we now have a better understanding of Desmond's history, a la Alice In Wonderland-ish, but were any questions answered about the island or how he came to have his new psychic abilities? And what about the clothes part? That's still a mystery to me ;D

If anything, I don't feel that we've progressed that far with this episode unlike we did from last weeks episode where we are learning a little more about what some of the Others were brought to the island for based on their skills (although we still don't know why exactly).

I'm also very tired of Charlie's possessiveness with Claire and his jealousy towards anybody that even smiles at her. It's been done over and over and it gets nowhere and makes Charlie seem like a complete moron even though we know he's got some brains about him. The jealousy stuff with Locke was fine because of the prior friction with Locke and Charlies addiction. But this with Desmond just doesn't have any backbone to it, no real reason and definately no teeth.

With all that said though, it was definately a fun ride. Just not an enlightening one. I also don't know how to feel about this new death revelation. Sure, it's gonna keep you glued and wondering just when this is going to happen, but I can't help but feel that it's another way to transition yet another actor out of the plot because said actor has some other gig coming up, ie Mr. Eko.

All in all, it's becoming a fun show to watch again, but I hope from the previews for next week that we'll definately get back to the real reason why we got hooked on Lost in the beginning, the mythology and all the mysteries we've been gobbling up since day one.

whispervixen
02-15-2007, 07:00 AM
AMAZING! Loved it this episode, very much so a 10/10! :clap:

nonnyd
02-15-2007, 07:03 AM
I almost went for 10; while watching, my husband and I would sit up, look at each other in amazement and that hasn't happened during most of this season in Lost.

But I have to go with 9; I would like more ensemble work, someone doing the only realistic thing (planning defenses from the Others, who just got J/K/S) or one real answer about the island. I do fear that the eventual explanation for this flashback will be "hallucinating while unconscious from the blast", not much to advance our island knowledge.

I love Desmond-centric episodes. I enjoy people sitting on the beach, getting drunk. But I sure wouldn't want to be kidnapped by the Others on this island, because all my buddies would develop amnesia about my disappearance and have a party on the beach. Fruit salad, anyone?

One super-cool aspect of tonight's show is that it puts the hanging of Charlie in a new light. Maybe the island put the heroin in his reach again and again because he was meant to die. I like how the episode makes me want to rewatch previous seasons for clues to Charlie's fate.

eTux
02-15-2007, 07:21 AM
Loved it! The return of season 3 has truly spoiled us - an awesome Juliet flashback first, and now this :biggrin: Gave it a 9, as I really liked it, but I do have a few things to point out:

*) How they handled Eko's death seemed pretty much laughable, but then again - they never seem to have a great impact save for a couple of characters.

*) Hurely seems to be over his grief pretty soon. He could've been more empathetic to Desmond with the crazy thing too, given his own experience.

*) For an episode that was supposed to return to the beach, this didn't feel pretty much different than the other's-exclusive ones, with only the characters in focus being different than in those episodes.

But that's about it - overall a pretty brilliant episode all the same, despite the above.

Azaelia
02-15-2007, 07:36 AM
It was definitely the best of this season. It still falls behind a little when compared to season 1, but it was a very good episode all the same.

It was so good to see a return to the beach, and the reappearance of characters I'd been missing. I don't even think my incredibly positive reaction to this episode was just a good reaction to not having Jack, Kate, and Sawyer all over the place for once...I think this one was just an excellently written episode, and very well acted.

At last, some real suspense and mystery. For the first time this season, I can't wait to see what happens next!

LOVED IT!!

adam8023
02-15-2007, 07:45 AM
I give it an 8.

An interesting concept, we get to see Sun(For half a minute that is), is fate for real?

But on the minus side is the lack of Kate and Sayid!:frown:

Blue Coral
02-15-2007, 07:46 AM
Absolute 10, this episode was brilliant!

The acting by HIC was explosive.

carfreak2128
02-15-2007, 07:49 AM
Fantastic episode, and thats just when Lost needed it for a boost. Lack of explaination was disappointing, (nakedness, how DID he get out of the hatch, blood all over him) But overall top five episodes of Lost. 10.

icechiller
02-15-2007, 07:57 AM
The best episode of Lost in a long time, amazing. 10/10 for me.

Zatherran
02-15-2007, 08:00 AM
This why I watch LOST.. great directing..great acting. you can see the ease and confidence in the actors. this one was more emotion, tugging at issues we all at some point in our lives have come to terms with.. making the right choice - fear of failure - facing negitive forces, when in the end those people will back out themselves or change thier minds.
thanks again for a great show...

SummitDog1
02-15-2007, 08:02 AM
Great episode! I LOVE Desmond. I think I'm going to have to watch this episode a few more times to make sure I didn't miss anything!

Pauly
02-15-2007, 08:12 AM
I think this is probably the best episode since season 1 finished :) It made me remember how fresh and trippy Lost can be. Jack Bender is a genious director he's the best.

sjb121590
02-15-2007, 08:27 AM
I gave it a 9 because it was amazing but made absolutely no sense (to me, anyway).

Jen1
02-15-2007, 08:37 AM
I gave it 9... At last... One good episode... Great flashback with flashforward memories... This is the first time I watched a flashback with so much attention, which means whole episode was worth watching. That's something spectacular, especially after mini-arc.

pinkrose
02-15-2007, 08:39 AM
All I have to say is WOW. Just WOW.

desmondslosthairstraighteners
02-15-2007, 08:45 AM
The acting, directing, writing was fantastic, 9/10.

The only thing stopping me from giving this a 10 was the fact that it seemed a bit like a Final Destination rip off (this episode was way better than all of those terrible films though) and the old woman's acting seemed a little wooden.

But wow what an episode, LOST is truly back with a bang!

Dmcquickly
02-15-2007, 08:54 AM
IMHO, this one continues the show's return to the excellence of the first season.
100%
I rated this episode a 7.

While it was a really good episode and I was definately intrigued by it all, it almost seemed like after you realize that Desmond more than likely dreamed all of this stuff about his prior life, which was the meat and potatoes of this episode, it was almost kind of pointless and really didn't push the overall storyline all that far. It was almost like the anti-flashback flashback. It was however a very novel approach at a part of the show (the flashbacks) that has become very tired as of late and almost irrelevant. So for that, I give the writers a B for pulling a rabbit out of the hat, but it's the same trick, just different hand waving.

And like a few others pointed out, while it seemed like this episode answered some questions, I don't feel it answered anything at all in regards to the big picture. Sure, we now have a better understanding of Desmond's history, a la Alice In Wonderland-ish, but were any questions answered about the island or how he came to have his new psychic abilities? And what about the clothes part? That's still a mystery to me ;D

If anything, I don't feel that we've progressed that far with this episode unlike we did from last weeks episode where we are learning a little more about what some of the Others were brought to the island for based on their skills (although we still don't know why exactly).

I'm also very tired of Charlie's possessiveness with Claire and his jealousy towards anybody that even smiles at her. It's been done over and over and it gets nowhere and makes Charlie seem like a complete moron even though we know he's got some brains about him. The jealousy stuff with Locke was fine because of the prior friction with Locke and Charlies addiction. But this with Desmond just doesn't have any backbone to it, no real reason and definately no teeth.

With all that said though, it was definately a fun ride. Just not an enlightening one. I also don't know how to feel about this new death revelation. Sure, it's gonna keep you glued and wondering just when this is going to happen, but I can't help but feel that it's another way to transition yet another actor out of the plot because said actor has some other gig coming up, ie Mr. Eko.

All in all, it's becoming a fun show to watch again, but I hope from the previews for next week that we'll definately get back to the real reason why we got hooked on Lost in the beginning, the mythology and all the mysteries we've been gobbling up since day one.

This is what's so great about this board: Intelligent people (although it's spelled "definitely") in the give-and-take of analysis. And what's so great about the show.

From my perspective, the flashbacks really do add a lot to the show. I like to get to know these characters, and there are enough twists in their lives. But I understand that more than a few people really just want to focus on the events on the island itself and have little more than a passing interest in these people's lives ante-insula.

Sometimes it does seem like the storylines (such as Charlie's jealousy) go on a bit long, but then I just remind myself that the time arc has evolved over only 100 days +/- and any development in character is not going to happen extraordinarily quickly. In fact, Charlie is probably still in the post-heroin recovery phase, making him much more cranky and jumpy than he would otherwise be.

And for me, anyway, part of the mystery of the island has always been about time, and how these characters have flashbacks of their lives that (in general) very closely reflect their development on the island.

But that's just me, and it's really fun to see what other, divergent views are.

IamLOST922
02-15-2007, 09:06 AM
I don't often give 10's but this epi gets one, hands down!

Ck2020
02-15-2007, 09:17 AM
finally lost is back on track..the previous episodes were like all 7's but this one gave me back those cold chills in my spine..really loved it

Juniebun
02-15-2007, 09:25 AM
I thought that last night's episode was very good. HIC gave a great performance. The best LOST episodes make your forget that you're watching an actor perform and you not only go beyond thinking that it's a very good actor doing his stuff, but that you are watching a real person. HIC made me forget that he was an actor. I kind of felt like I was watching the person Desmond Hume versus the character. It was enjoyable to see Hurley and Charlie, too...

lostlocke
02-15-2007, 09:56 AM
definitely a 10. What else could you give this episode which was full of mystery, full of GREAT acting by Ian Cusick and even a whole new kind of Lost, with the whole episode basically consisting of "flashbacks". It was wonderful from beginning to end.

whispervixen
02-15-2007, 09:57 AM
It's great to see 49% of people voting 10 for this episode! :D

Lost_In_NJ
02-15-2007, 10:15 AM
IMHO, this one continues the show's return to the excellence of the first season.
100%


This is what's so great about this board: Intelligent people (although it's spelled "definitely") in the give-and-take of analysis. And what's so great about the show.

From my perspective, the flashbacks really do add a lot to the show. I like to get to know these characters, and there are enough twists in their lives. But I understand that more than a few people really just want to focus on the events on the island itself and have little more than a passing interest in these people's lives ante-insula.

Sometimes it does seem like the storylines (such as Charlie's jealousy) go on a bit long, but then I just remind myself that the time arc has evolved over only 100 days +/- and any development in character is not going to happen extraordinarily quickly. In fact, Charlie is probably still in the post-heroin recovery phase, making him much more cranky and jumpy than he would otherwise be.

And for me, anyway, part of the mystery of the island has always been about time, and how these characters have flashbacks of their lives that (in general) very closely reflect their development on the island.

But that's just me, and it's really fun to see what other, divergent views are.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I am in total agreement with the both of you.

sarakat
02-15-2007, 10:29 AM
I gave it a 9. Hands down the best episode thus far this season, and one of the best overall. I took away one point for Desmond's return from the past to the island ... did a blow to his head return him to the present, or was it because he changed the course of events by warning the bartender? That didn't sit well with me. The possibility was left open that it was all a dream.

Ekosystem2112
02-15-2007, 10:36 AM
Good offbeat episode. It's great when the creators break the mold for telling a LOST tale. I was undecided between a 6 or an 8. At first I was thinking it was all a dream and pointless, because it wasn't a flashback (because the story was not told in the ordinary way). Now I'm leaning more towards 8 because I believe Desmond was given a chance to alter his past but failed (good thing though, otherwise we wouldn't be here). A bonk in the head seems to activate/deactivate his future visions given to him by the hatch. His time travel experience began with him hitting his head on the floor and ending by a hit to the head by a bat. Maybe when he arrived on the island, his "power" was deactivated by the bonk he recieved by the sailboat. Who knows what he did before that to alter history (to Jack "You've got to lift it up" seems to be some kind of future foreshadowing).
Desmond's "Time Travel" scenes could've been trippier though (like the feel David Lynch gives to his ordinary scenes). The camera shots were pretty routine and at the times the episode was too slow.
Patiently waiting for the ensemble to come back full force...

lh89
02-15-2007, 10:56 AM
Absolutely excellent, best episode of the series Whoooo! :laughing:

ottomatic
02-15-2007, 11:02 AM
bloody brilliant.

ngibarra
02-15-2007, 11:16 AM
It brought that mystery back, GREAT EPISODE!

RamessesIX
02-15-2007, 11:55 AM
As I chiseled ice off of my car this morning, I found myself ruminating on how difficult it was going to be to rate last night's Lost episode. The episode was like a gorgeously-lined garden path taking me somewhere I'm not sure I want to go.

The opening scene, with Desmond fetching Charlie and Hurley to be appointed morale officers by Locke, was rather shaky and made me worry that whomever on the writing team truly "got" Locke and the other beach characters left after Season 2. "Everyone will look to you for a reaction." Huh? Since when? One of them is a drug addict who's been shunned for bizarre behavior, and the other is a clown. It seemed like the whole point of the scene was to remind us that Locke is back to blaming "the island" for everything. My biggest criticism of Season 3 so far is that it has teemed with such risible (out-of) character scenes.

Desmond carried the episode very well, I thought. Such a focus on one person wouldn't have worked with just any character (or actor), especially for the Lost-starved multitudes in just the second episode back from break. But Desmond has a screen presence about him that lets him pull it off. In fact, I have to give the writers credit for having the guts to make a latecomer (apparently) such a central figure in the show's mythology.

As for the flashback/dream/time travel sequence or whatever it was, I thought it was just beautiful and brimmed with the magic that makes Lost special. Endless little touches, like...


Charlie's song on the street corner foreshadowing the twist at the end
Desmond's confusion at all the reminders of his 'life' in the Swan - I especially loved the sound the microwave made
The jeweler, one of those creepy characters that you never see coming, like a Dwight Gooden curveball
Seeing The Picture of Desmond and Penny being taken (Is it the same one? If it's slightly different, that might be a clue that Desmond's experience was real)
Penny's father disdaining Desmond because he's not a "great" man, while his daughter loves him for being a "good" man


And the whole, "What the heck is going on here?" and "Is this happening or not?" vibes. Scrumptiously surreal. Lost is at its best when it's messing with our minds...but not for mind-bending's own sake. I'm taking on faith that there was a purpose to this episode - though my wife thought it a "waste of an hour" - and enjoying it for the psychological thriller it was.

It did have to win me over somewhat, though, because I haven't been mad about the whole "Desmond sees the future" plotline, and I'm still not. The writers went to the "psychic powers" well once, with Walt, and that's fine, but too often and you become Heroes, or at least more of an outright sci-fi show, and the writers ought to remember that if anything can happen, nothing can surprise us. Lost's bread and butter, in my opinion, is in the way it stretches the limits of what's possible without delving into the impossible.

In the end, I'm going to say 8.5, and round up to 9 for sheer ambition. Some serious thought and effort went into this episode and I appreciate that.

Articman
02-15-2007, 12:21 PM
Hands down, great episode. Lets get the ball rolling again. I want more!

Tiny Time Machine
02-15-2007, 01:39 PM
Wow, I've never felt so out of sync with this board.

For me, that was the single worst episode of Lost to date. Something tells me Lindelof and Cuse rented Final Destination before writing this episode since the plot is pretty much identicle. I just got done watching "Flashes Before Your Eyes" and I have no energy. It sucked the enthusiasm for Lost out of me.

Having said that, I'm glad the rest of you liked it. I do still love this show and hope it continues to do well. This particular storyline just doesn't do it for me.

Passport
02-15-2007, 01:40 PM
A little down on last week's episode I rated "Flashes Before Your Eyes" as an 8.

I really adored the concept of the episode, the character story of Desmond was fantastic and my mouth dropped when "Make Your Own Kind Of Music" came filtering across the duke box. I think that the casting department really deserve an award for their casting of Mrs Hawking - who beats Ben hands down in the creepy league.

However, I found this episode a little too confusing and out of place. This is the second time we have been left with a big plot development at the end of an episode, I really hope they decide to tackle both in next week's episode.

"The universe has a way of self correcting" - the most chilling line in LOST history, methinks.

I really missed Juliet from this episode, but other than that this was a masterpiece in character driven stories - the reason I fell in love with Lost in the first place.

MyLost
02-15-2007, 01:53 PM
I agree with TinyTimeMachine sort of and I am not going to rate it because it depends on the basis for the "flashback" If it is the rambling mind of a damaged Desmond laced with the Island interjecting imagery during a dream sequence of sort as has been done in the past episodes(Eko with his brother for example), then I loved the inventiveness of it. However, if there is any basis that this was an actual flashback, then I hated it. Weird but true. First time the basis of the episode has me weighing whether it was good or bad episode.

4815Waiting for disaster16234
02-15-2007, 02:26 PM
Something tells me Lindelof and Cuse rented Final Destination before writing this episode since the plot is pretty much identicle.

Haha, yeah I got the Final Destination vibe from it too, especially with Desmond intervening with Charlie's potential deaths.
But I do like that film, and I just finished watching "Flashes before your eyes" and I thought it was really good.
I thought the different structure of the episode was a refreshing change :biggrin: And it was just generally pretty amazing to me.

I would have liked to have seen a bit more of the other Losties but that probably would've taken away some of the effect of the episode, especially the ending of it.

Turn_of_the_Screw
02-15-2007, 03:27 PM
And just when we thought we had it all figured out...

irish lost fan
02-15-2007, 03:51 PM
I was really looking forward to this episode. The first 10 minutes was brilliant. But I didn't like the rest of it. The ending was good enough.

5/10
:ermm:

1LovesLost
02-15-2007, 04:27 PM
Wohhhhhhhh Baby! Loved, Loved, Loved IT :thumbup1:!! This eppy made my head Hot :angryfire, in such a good way. I'm back in Love with Lost. So many implications, so little time.

sk8
02-15-2007, 04:46 PM
I was really looking forward to this episode. The first 10 minutes was brilliant. But I didn't like the rest of it. The ending was good enough.

5/10
:ermm:
me too
I'm confused,was this a LOST episode?
4/10 :confused:

Evenstar_lostie
02-15-2007, 04:49 PM
:grin: 10! I loved it! This episode is exactly why I love LOST. I've been thinking about the implications of this eppy since I saw it last night.

islandchica
02-15-2007, 05:21 PM
Wow, now that was simply brilliant. A 10 from me. Definitely the best of this season and one of my top 5 in Lost history. :D

stunnedtina
02-15-2007, 07:29 PM
I rated it a 9 but could easily be a 10. It comes easily into my top 10 favorites episodes of the series. The writers really surprised me on this one. I loved Desmond before but now I really love him and still trying to figured this whole thing out. Was done wonderfully!

jheri
02-15-2007, 07:38 PM
I LOVED IT! I love to watch Desmond episodes anyway, but I really loved this one! Henry Ian Cusick was terrific. He uses a wide range of emotions, what an actor! The plot was so deep. I loved it 10!

LightMeDark
02-15-2007, 08:17 PM
I'm giving it a 9 based purely on enjoyment of the episode, far and away the best this season. It's a shame that we got no answers, really, but character-driven eps aren't bad...and when it's done as well as this one, I'll applaud it.

melanielost
02-16-2007, 12:16 AM
Its true! this episode deserves a 10 !!!:desmond: :8:

aurorawest
02-16-2007, 04:25 AM
While I could see that this was a very good episode of Lost, I'm not all that interested in Charlie, Hurley, or Desmond, so I gave it an 8. Though I do like Desmond more now and the precognition thing was done much better than I thought it would be (probably partly because HIC is a great actor).

carrieres
02-16-2007, 07:36 AM
Why can't I vote here ?

Starrox
02-16-2007, 01:10 PM
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jinandtonic
02-16-2007, 01:26 PM
Just the kind of episode I've been waiting for this season. I thought it was a 10 for sure.

HeadFirstForHalos
02-16-2007, 02:29 PM
Best one since they first went into the hatch!

Helen_
02-16-2007, 02:35 PM
Excellent episode!! 10, without any doubts.

ESP
02-17-2007, 06:05 AM
A totally smashing episode! Had read about it but still was blown away after watching it. But poor Desmond:cry: :o

dangerousdirk
02-17-2007, 08:39 AM
the only reason I didn't give it a 10 (I gave a 9) was because I'm saving the 10 for when we find out:

what the smoke monster actually is
who the others are
what the heck is up with that big foot statue

But, it was VERY good and gave some Great answers for which I've been waiting:biggrin:

lockeisthekey
02-17-2007, 12:30 PM
I gave it a 9. It was wonderful to finally have a REAL eppy, instead of seeing those
blasted Others holding people hostage.

Last week's eppy made me sorry that I wasted an hour when I could have been sleeping.

This week, I was really pumped after the show. Desmond is awesome, but it was also
that we got some fascinating things to think about...

Spirit4ever
02-17-2007, 01:31 PM
This was an AWESOME episode! Totally loved it! It makes me wonder: how many episodes will Desmond be trying to save Charlie? I don't want Charlie to die...ever!

Porochaz
02-17-2007, 06:28 PM
I gave this a 5,

it lost a point when we found out this wasn't the ensemble cast we had been waiting for but an "episode 1/7" with a different character.
It lost a point with the whole "Final Destination style" thing to it.
It lost 2 points as it annoyed the hell out of me with the whole stereotypical english thing, the only bar that would have a British flag up inside it would be an English bar thats abroad. Also tied in with that was the cliched english accent by some people and when Charlie goes "its England its a bloody Island", hate to say it but there is more than England in that island.
It lost its final point for various reasons, it was slightly overly confusing, the whole realising Sun hasn't been in anyone elses episode, it just wasn't great, wouldn't the whisky been drunk by now, you would think after the whole drowning incident and the other random pools of safer water on the island you would think twice about swimming in the sea...

On the other hand, Desmond was good, it added a new dimension to Lost, it was different, it was another lets get the slightly lost fans back to Lost episode, nice not to see Jack for once and that annoying Jack/Sawyer who should I choose debate, it had a nice amount of action, loved the continuity and really want to see where the story goes from here. (Hopefully culminating in Charlies demise... did I say that...)

luvshirtlesssawyer
02-17-2007, 06:28 PM
Best episode ever!!:biggrin:

rhm
02-17-2007, 07:42 PM
Mmmm, I must say as a Brit working in London the attempt to portray life there was very desultory. Fair enough it's not important, but also the relationships portrayed are not very well realised and only work because they are the vehicle for bigger secrets. Would you watch Lost if it was just about the relationship between Des and Penny?

petronius6
02-18-2007, 12:57 AM
It was the most brilliantly crafted episode in Lost history! I will always count this as a favorite episode!

Ferris
02-18-2007, 11:02 AM
I have mostly positive, but somewhat mixed feelings on this one. I was very glad to see them try something different with the storytelling. It was a bold choice.

On the other side, I sincerely hope time travel has not now become something any of the characters are capable of. Introducing that at this point would throw open a Pandora's Box of paradoxes and inconsistencies that I shudder to even think about.

Also, the elderly woman Desmond met deeply bothered me. Why tell him that his fate his fixed? The ultimate effect of convincing someone their actions won't change anything is for that person to give up and do nothing.

One thing I'm still pondering: how did that particular bottle of Scotch get in Sawyer's stash?

RiL
02-18-2007, 06:32 PM
Well in all honesty that episode has me stumped as to where the shows heading now

flashbackfan
02-19-2007, 04:53 AM
I'm mixed here. I loved the flashback Des stuff - his life with Penny and his "time travel" or possible concussion or whatever it was! It was great... However, I hated the whole thing about some people being destined to die and fate being sealed. I mean, come on! Do the writers really believe that? If so, that's awful! I'm all into a man having faith land believing in a higher power, but believing that certain people are doomed to die? That's just silly in my book. (And that's where Locke always goes wrong, isn't it?)

And it almost seemed like the writers were having a stab at how we are about people dying on this show. Almost as if they are telling us to get a grip about it and deal with it or some nonsense like that. It just felt a little obvious and cheesy.

I can only hope that Des turns out to be very wrong about his ideas about fate and him not being able to change things. Not that I'd die if Charlie kicked the bucket, but I for one strongly believe that our lives are in our own hands, at least to some degree. Sure, there's plenty of chaos in the world, but a set fixed rule book that predetermines who lives and dies? Nah... that's just malarkey IMO. And I was really hoping for much more explanation about what happened after the hatch.
Not to mention that the rest of the losties were totally missing from the epi. Can't the writers try and multitask a little bit with each epi? Oh wait a minute, I forgot, they're probably holding out as long as they can to fill as many seasons as ABC demands of them.

Like I said before, I'm mixed. I liked it but didn't at the same time. Maybe I had too high of hopes for this epi, but at the end, I felt let down.

DefenderOfMen
02-20-2007, 12:21 PM
9- I enjoyed the change in storytelling. I didn't enjoy sobbing at the end of the episode!
:crybaby: OH CHARLIE!!!:crybaby:

LOCKE THE HATCH
02-21-2007, 07:55 AM
love this ep!

though it bothers me that it is very identical to a storyline in heroes: hiro (the time traveller) has to save charlie (the waitress, who is now in ugly betty named what else for god sakes but charlie! another betty coincidence:alan dale who plays mr. widmore also plays the head of meade publications)!

archangel1772
02-22-2007, 09:23 AM
This was, by far, the most boring, pointless episode ever! There was not one single thing about it that I liked.

jbdean
02-22-2007, 12:17 PM
I had to give it a 10 and would have given it more if I could have!

pibbsneaker
02-22-2007, 11:27 PM
Finally got around to seeing it. More flashbacks within flashbacks? Come on.

And that lady that Desmond buys the ring from? She was a cheap rip off of the Colonel Sanders architect from the Matrix Revolutions.

GaiusKnight
02-22-2007, 11:56 PM
This episode was by far the best episode of Season 3. It brought a lot of depth back to Lost, and more of the philosophy undertones which I greatly enjoy. Desmond is a great character, and the question of Charlie's impending doom is a very interesting mystery. I'd love to see more episodes like Flashes Before Your Eyes. :)

IStoleCindy
02-24-2007, 01:09 PM
It was a really good episode, despite Fionulla Flanagan's irritating accent and The Final Destination silliness. Nice to see them taking some risks with the plots again, rather than just telling us not a whole lot about some people who've been kidnapped.

But PLEASE stop this whole one week on the island, one week off it thing. It's very irritating. What's the point of giving us a straight run of episodes to the end of the series if we still have to wait two weeks for cliffhanger resolutions?

Petragrrl
02-27-2007, 03:45 PM
Finally catching up with the episodes...

I gave this one a solid 9 (Pilot I and II will forever be 10s... nothing came close so far) - I loved the whole "can-you-outwit-outsmart-outplay-your-destiny" scenario... I guess according to TPTB you can't :biggrin: Oh well.

Truly enjoyable TV though... loved the reappearance of the numbers, the countdown ticks, Charlie... I was thoroughly entertained.

Lockefan
03-01-2007, 11:23 AM
This episode should win the Emmy for best drama, best TV show ever produced, best writing, best concept, best acting, best directing, best scene in which red paint seems like blood at first, most suspenseful episode in a drama, sexiest accent (well, no, maybe that has to go to Sayid), and best chilling use of high-top sneakers in a drama.

WONDERFUL, superlative, wild, woolly, imaginative, edge-of-your-seat stuff. LOVED it, with a capital IT ROCKED.

Shardyk
03-30-2007, 02:45 PM
Forgot to vote for this one. 10/10. Easily in my top 5 episodes. Along with Live Together, Die Alone. Desmond flashbacks are perfect so far.

The_Valenzetti_Equation
04-14-2007, 06:03 PM
I thought it was a tad unrealistic, and I was disappointed that we saw very few characters, but the last ten minutes with how everything made sense suddenly to the viewer makes me give this great episode about an 8.5. And there's a chance I might have given it a higher rating if I didn't know about the time travel beforehand. Above average by Lost standards.

TreyWatchesLost
04-14-2007, 06:10 PM
I'd give this episode a overall 9. It was a 10+ on plot excitement, but nothing EXTREMELY action, fight scene, etc. happened.

Corey Chaos
06-04-2007, 01:05 PM
this was a ten fo' sho'. Desmond flashbacks are always a-MA-zing.

freckles_shephard
07-14-2007, 09:12 AM
I gave it a 5, I like Desmond but seeing practically the whole episode of just him having flash backs were a bit too much and I dont like the whole time travel thing all that much anyway.

MikeWhitt
08-15-2007, 10:18 AM
its at least a 8