Cindy! lets talk about Cindy!We need her back i cant beleve there is not a Cindy thred on this forum! What are you lot playing at?:huh:

Okey-doke.

That's Cindy Chandler right?

Well I found me something interesting (it probably belongs filed under 'Coincidence', but): messing around with something Charlie said in the Season 2 finale; "...colossal lie" "...colossal joke" (I thought it was the writers alluding to the four-toed statue at first but...) I fell across an article called The Installation and Maintainance Of Colossus.

Colossus was the world's first programmable computer (or was widely believed to be; the Germans probably had one first in fact), British - which maybe why the cast's Englishman got to say its name - and a code-breaker. (The Valenzetti Equation?)

Said artical was written by a W.W. Chandler.

Maybe we'll yet see the much suggested Gary Troup connection explored?

Wow! so maybe gary and cindy have a bigger meaning in the show

the soon they bring Cindy back the better



soc ( only untill epb 8 hopfully

Okey-doke.

That's Cindy Chandler right?

Well I found me something interesting (it probably belongs filed under 'Coincidence', but): messing around with something Charlie said in the Season 2 finale; "...colossal lie" "...colossal joke" (I thought it was the writers alluding to the four-toed statue at first but...) I fell across an article called The Installation and Maintainance Of Colossus.

Colossus was the world's first programmable computer (or was widely believed to be; the Germans probably had one first in fact), British - which maybe why the cast's Englishman got to say its name - and a code-breaker. (The Valenzetti Equation?)

Said artical was written by a W.W. Chandler.

Maybe we'll yet see the much suggested Gary Troup connection explored?


Well TPTB have said that the characters' names are carefully chosen.

Whether they have significance beyond that is anybody's guess :shrug:

the soon they bring Cindy back the better



soc ( only untill epb 8 hopfully


right on! heres hoping she will be a main lostie

Was Cindy meant to be Australian? I thought she had an odd accent when I saw her in Another 48 Hours. (I am Australian and kind of used to hearing bad imitations of the accent in movies etc). Just curious.

She is and so is Kimberley Joseph the actress that plays her.

As this show has tons of literary references...what if Chandler is homage to author. Wasn't he a noir writer? And isn't Bad Twin (dedicated to her) a noir novel? Or am I thinking Carver. If so...nm.

I wonder what Cindy will say when she finds out that her boyfriend, Gary Troup, exploded in the turbine.(Gary troup was the man who exploded in the plane engine in the Pilot.)

Oh, yeah according to the preview durng DayBreak she will be on the returning spring s3 episodes.

There's lots of stuff on Cindy here at the Fuselage... if you do an advanced search. I think there hasn't been too much discussion of her for awhile... but it's there.


And since she was in the Daybreak moment clip discussion on her is picking up.

Which all means that it's good to have the Cindy thread back here!

It occurs to me that the stereotypical stewardess line is "Coffee, tea, or milk?" (OK, OK, the PG stereotypical stewardess line, you :naughty: folks!)

On the island, it'd be "Water, juice, or water?" :D

I was always kind of amused at Cindy's saying she didn't remember seeing Nathan on the plane. Well, Cindy:

1. You were basically attending passengers in the fuselage/business section, not the tail, where Nathan sat.

2. You were busy securing yourself in your seat when you WERE in the tail section, cuz the plane was shaking. You then were carried away when the tail tore loose from the rest of the plane. Then you (and the tail, and everyone else in it) SLAMMED into the ocean after free falling a few thousand feet. Then you somehow kept conscious long enough to get your seat belt off, swim to the surface, then swim to the shore of this mysterious island. None of that gave you much leisure time to look over the passengers in the tail section, now, did it?

3. The shock of the crash, its aftermath, realizing you were 1000 miles away from where they'd have looked for the plane, and all the stuff that happened on the Island those 20-odd days before Ana got suspicious about Nathan--NONE of that would have affected your memory (or lack thereof) of who was on the plane, of course! :rolleyes:


But I guess I'm being too sensible, right? :shrug:


Seriously, I like Cindy. I hope that

she'll be a recurring character, now that she's back in the plotline!

I think we'll see lots more of Cindy!
The preview clip was pretty sinister though, wasn't it? I still think she is being set up as another potential love interest here for Jack, possbily yet another love triangle with Juliet vying for Jack's affections.

One thing that the really fantastic Lost Moments #5 brought up for me was

How was Cindy taken? WAS she taken or was she a plant? IIRC, she just wasn't there any more, after being the last person in the line of Tailies hiking, just before it started raining and Ana-Lucia shot Shannon. No struggle, no sounds, just....*gone*. It's always made me think that she was planted there, just as Goodwin was.

ETA: spoiler font (thanks STH)

Jeremy--mentioning Lost Moments #5 is at least borderline spoiler. Better font it to be on the safe side!

I think people are missing something. When we first see Cindy post-crash in "48 Days," she is assertive, in control, calling everyone's (including Ana's) attention to the fact that they were 1000 miles off-course. By the time they're headed for Beach Camp in "Abandoned," we see a somewhat-cowed Cindy agreeing with Leader Ana's assessment that the unconscious James be left behind. In short, she's been beaten down enough by events to defer to whatever the leader says. (Notice that Eko, Bernard, and Libby aren't so deferential; the former two even argue FOR taking James along!)

This, to me, says that Cindy had become a "good" person--moldable, malleable, obedient, cooperative. The Others still had their Island monitoring devices working at that time (the light/noise show didn't knock them out till Day 67); they'd probably noted this change in Cindy, and the orders came from On High: Take Her. ASAP. ASAP turned out to be while everyone was distracted getting James & stretcher up that hill on Day 48. By the time that was accomplished, and Ana could do a count of the group again, Cindy was grabbed and gone.

No, she WASN'T a plant. But it probably didn't take more than a day or two to "bring her around" to be a cooperative, contributing member of The Others' community. After all, attitude-wise, she was already ripe for the picking!

Cindy should get a gun, shoot Nikki and Paulo and take their recurring character places!

Seriously though, it'll be cool to see Cindy when/if she returns.

This, to me, says that Cindy had become a "good" person--moldable, malleable, obedient, cooperative. The Others still had their Island monitoring devices working at that time (the light/noise show didn't knock them out till Day 67); they'd probably noted this change in Cindy, and the orders came from On High: Take Her. ASAP. ASAP turned out to be while everyone was distracted getting James & stretcher up that hill on Day 48. By the time that was accomplished, and Ana could do a count of the group again, Cindy was grabbed and gone.

No, she WASN'T a plant. But it probably didn't take more than a day or two to "bring her around" to be a cooperative, contributing member of The Others' community. After all, attitude-wise, she was already ripe for the picking!


STH, this is interesting and does fit in with how the others have handled, Jack, Kate and Sawyer.

Thanks, penyours. It's the only sensible explanation I could come up with for Cindy. Of course, The Others didn't need to work on the rest of the "taken" Tailies for long, either! (Unless Karl's a Tailie!)

Thanks, penyours. It's the only sensible explanation I could come up with for Cindy. Of course, The Others didn't need to work on the rest of the "taken" Tailies for long, either! (Unless Karl's a Tailie!)

Actually your explanation could still work, as they may have taken the people who appeared to be subordinate already, (though then I would wonder why they didn't take Bernard as he seemed to follow the leader when he was with the taillies)

Bernard is also a stubborn old cuss. And he really wasn't supposed to BE with the Tailies--his wife was with the Fusies on the other side of the Island. Maybe they wanted him reunited with her so they could see what they were like together. Kind of like, are they "good" people as a package deal?

Who's to know? :shrug:

Yeah it's true Bernard did turn out to be stubborn perhaps the others sensed that?

Of course, if they thought Bernard was stubborn, they're gonna have their hands full with Jack! :laughing:

Of course, if they thought Bernard was stubborn, they're gonna have their hands full with Jack! :laughing:

But the others have Juliet ;)

A bit of ON topic posting would be nice, don't you think? ;)

I'd actually like to find out that Cindy was an Other all along... that would be a nice new twist to the show if we'd find out that the Others already had spies on the plane... :biggrin:

Maybe the whole plane crew were Others and the whole "our instruments went nuts and suddenly we were 1000 miles off course" was a lie... :eek2:

I'd actually like to find out that Cindy was an Other all along... that would be a nice new twist to the show if we'd find out that the Others already had spies on the plane... I'd *love* that.

I'd actually like to find out that Cindy was an Other all along... that would be a nice new twist to the show if we'd find out that the Others already had spies on the plane... :biggrin:

Maybe the whole plane crew were Others and the whole "our instruments went nuts and suddenly we were 1000 miles off course" was a lie... :eek2:


i would love this

i mean this would open up so many opportunities and theories it is unbelievable

A bit of ON topic posting would be nice, don't you think? ;)

I'd actually like to find out that Cindy was an Other all along... that would be a nice new twist to the show if we'd find out that the Others already had spies on the plane... :biggrin:

Maybe the whole plane crew were Others and the whole "our instruments went nuts and suddenly we were 1000 miles off course" was a lie... :eek2:

Very interesting theory. But the planecrash caught them a bit unprepared don't you think? If they were expecting some major event, I doubt they'd keep making brownies and hold book-club meetings. Unless I'm missing something. :shrug:

I stick with STH's theory. She appreared to be pretty maleable to me. And the others had much more time to break her than they had with Jack/Kate/James.

I stick with STH's theory. She appeared to be pretty malleable to me.
STH :hug: Lea!!

It's such a :happy_bounce: feeling, being agreed with!

STH :hug: Lea!!

It's such a :happy_bounce: feeling, being agreed with!

You have this annoying habit to make sense :21: I am always willing to give in to logic.

:hug:

It's such a :happy_bounce: feeling, being agreed with!

Yeah I can agree to that statement :smile:

And I do think your idea about taking Cindy at that point because she was worn down and would be more easily controlled is spot on!

You have this annoying habit to make sense :21:
Yeah--I know. Sorry about that! :71:

And I do think your idea about taking Cindy at that point because she was worn down and would be more easily controlled is spot on!
Aw. . .thanks, penyours! :blushing:


Anyone wanna bet that when Cindy signed up for the adventure of being a flight attendant, she wasn't planning on THIS?! :10:

Yeah--I know. Sorry about that! :71:


Aw. . .thanks, penyours! :blushing:


Anyone wanna bet that when Cindy signed up for the adventure of being a flight attendant, she wasn't planning on THIS?! :10:

What was Cindy planning? Topical Islands? Yes. beaches? Yes. But she probably wasn't hoping for craphole island! :biggrin:

Actually considering that her boyfriend Gary Troup was on the plane, they were probably planning to spend some time together in LA.

Actually considering that her boyfriend Gary Troup was on the plane, they were probably planning to spend some time together in LA.

Gary Troup was Cindy's boyfriend??? :eek2:

In the book Troup wrote, "Bad Twin," yes. Whether that was all a figment of Troup's imagination, or they were really seeing each other, I've never been sure. Anyone out there have proof of a 'real life' Gary/Cindy connection?

Mhmm... looks like I really have to read Bad Twin...

And it was really Cindy the flight attendant or just any Cindy?

I didn't read the book but many poster mentioned that it was Cindy the flight attendant. Also there were a few video interviews with gary Troup. I watched those and I vaguely remember that Troup may have mentioned Cindy in those as well, but i'm not sure bout that one.

For anyone who hasn't seen it, click below to view my character theories about Cindy:

http://www.thefuselage.com/Threaded/showthread.php?t=66355&page=13

Warning: the above link contains SPOILERS FOR UPCOMING EPISODES, based on the "Lost Moments" previews that ABC has shown.

In the book Troup wrote, "Bad Twin," yes. Whether that was all a figment of Troup's imagination, or they were really seeing each other, I've never been sure. Anyone out there have proof of a 'real life' Gary/Cindy connection?

Maybe Gary just wanted to be her boyfriend and was really just her stalker.:eek2:

I'd think more that he kinda was turned on by her, but knew he'd never have her in real life. So he WROTE what he wished could be in his book! :biggrin:

It states in an editors note in the AudioBook of Bad Twin, that she (the editor) was glad that Gary had found love in the form of Cindy Chandler and that it was kind of romantic that they perished together on oceanic 815.

Or something along those lines. And that seems pretty specific to me.

Really? Thanks for that, ctid! I really wasn't sure.

No Problem at all. The only issue is whether an editors note in the book is canon or not. (Oh and it also refers to her as a flight attendant)

It's all very interesting, but Cindy didn't seem to be specifically mourning... she was in shock, but... nothing like Rose for example... :rolleyes:

Gary Troup was Cindy's boyfriend??? :eek2:

It's all very interesting, but Cindy didn't seem to be specifically mourning... she was in shock, but... nothing like Rose for example... :rolleyes:

Good point.It doesn't add up.
Nothing about her adds up if you ask me. :rolleyes:

People deceived in love would seem to be a common theam in LOST: Jack is cheated on by his missus (he'd cheated on her by making work his mistress), Kate marries under an assumed name, Sawyer grifts his bedmate...

If Cindy isn't grieving; maybe she never loved Gary - he perhaps decieved himself in her love for him - or; she doesn't know he's dead. Or she's over it. She is resident at Mind Game Central after all.

I never saw that Rose got into an emotional state; she always believed, really believed, her husband to have survived. And reconciled to her own coming death at the hands of disease, and subsequent apparant cure... the woman believes in God.

He loves her; her calm is taken from that strength.

Wherever Cindy is at, I don't think Rose is a useful a comparison. :) Nice to see Little Miss Enigma being discussed again though.

Jack is cheated on by his missus (he'd cheated on her by making work his mistress)Erm, there was also the Italian woman whose dad came to him to be saved but died. I don't think Jack ever got kissed like *that* by his job. :biggrin:

I hope they're not using Cindy as a "love interest de jour" for Jack (see: Ana Lucia, Juliet). I can't wait to see her again and to find out why "it's not that simple"

Well, isn't every new female character brought on to the show as a potential love interest for Jack. :rolleyes:

I mean I know that Cindy isn't really "new", but she was certainly flirting with Jack on the plane!

A while ago i got bad twin like the first chapter free on itunes, but my mom wouldnt buy me the rest :-(

Well, isn't every new female character brought on to the show as a potential love interest for Jack. :rolleyes:

I mean I know that Cindy isn't really "new", but she was certainly flirting with Jack on the plane!

Maybe those flying lessons he took will prove important as I predicted.

I've just realised something. As we know, the names used for the characters in Lost were chosen very carefully & deliberately.

Cindy's surname is Chandler (which means Candle Maker).

The doctor in the orientation videos was given as Marvin Candle (Swan film) and Marvin Wickmund (Pearl film).

What is this connection with candles? Does this mean the Dr & Cindy are related in some way?

If Cindy - like Lucy - is from the Latin Lucinda (the feminine form of Lucretious) then her name is derived from 'lux' and means light.

But she may be a Greek, Kynthia; Cynthia in its more recognised form. There's a mountain by that name (Kynthia) on the floating (untill Zeus chained it down) island of Delos, sacred birthplace of Apollo.

I've just realised something. As we know, the names used for the characters in Lost were chosen very carefully & deliberately.

Cindy's surname is Chandler (which means Candle Maker).

The doctor in the orientation videos was given as Marvin Candle (Swan film) and Marvin Wickmund (Pearl film).

What is this connection with candles? Does this mean the Dr & Cindy are related in some way?

Good catch on Cindy's last name! If Cindy is an other then then she could be linked to the orientation guy Marvin Candle/Mark Wickman.

Hey Cindy, how ya doin'? What? You're One of Them now? You don't seem bummed about "disappearing", is that right? Is Karl right about giving you a better life?

Cindy? Cindy? Hello? Cindy, say something beyond "It's not that simple", 'mkay? :D

It was nice to see Cindy again, though I don't think she liked Jack's answer about Ana-Lucia. :(