Who is the most credible as a leader

George ''I am a complete idiot'' Bush

or

Tony ''I smile far to much for it to be healthy and I will kill anyone Bush tell me to'' Blair

P.S. This thread is supposed to be a light-hearted discusion

That truly is a tough one. I don't know as much about Tony as I do about Bush, so I think it would be safe to say that I hate Bush more.

Thankfully I see the lightheartedness in this, but I'm worried that it's going to downgrade and turn into a political bashfest.

Anyways, just makin' my concerns known (and I vote Blair...if Only because he's much better looking than Bush XD)

Thankfully I see the lightheartedness in this, but I'm worried that it's going to downgrade and turn into a political bashfest.

Anyways, just makin' my concerns known (and I vote Blair...if Only because he's much better looking than Bush XD)


I think that's how most people vote nowa-days :lol2:

Mmmmm how about another option....me ::)

I prefer Blair just because anyone has to be better than Bush.

JJ for President! ;D

*hopes that this doesn't turn into a bashfest as Mallek only has good intentions*

Well, I don't know as much about Blair as I do about Bush. I used to know what Bush's sitting heart rate was, but that was back in fall of 2004 when I needed to know that info.

I'm very political off the board. I've promised myself that I won't get into any debates, but that I will state my opinion and leave it at that.

I'd rather have Blair than Bush. Having Bush as president makes me feel like my sister when her daughter called the doctor "Dick", only not nearly as humorous.

Yeah, this could get a little ugly........ :ermm:

Yeah, this could get a little ugly........* :ermm:


Only if someone doesn't realise the difference in being proud of your nation as a posed to being proud of your leader. Coz lets face every government in the world is corrupt in some way :laugh: ::)

Only if someone doesn't realise the difference in being proud of your nation as a posed to being proud of your leader. Coz lets face every government in the world is corrupt in some way :laugh: ::)


Darn tootin', Mallek! Dissent is patriotic.

Some time I seem a bit anti-American but I am not really ;D

It's just that America steals all of our credit for our hard work(joking only) :lol2:

;) Yeah, just try and keep it lighthearted like you said because a lot of people might go to war over this. I've seen a lot of these politic threads get really bad....

So just remember everybody this a lighthearted discussion about your personal opinions, please try to be fair to evryone and don't let this get out of hand! Thanks!

BTW, I really enjoy your threads Mallek!

Some time I seem a bit anti-American but I am not really ;D

It's just that America steals all of our credit for our hard work(joking only) :lol2:


It always seems to me that the relationship between America and Britain is like two brothers with a bit of sibling rivalry. :)

;) Yeah, just try and keep it lighthearted like you said because a lot of people might go to war over this. I've seen a lot of these politic threads get really bad....

So just remember everybody this a lighthearted discussion about your personal opinions, please try to be fair to evryone and don't let this get out of hand! Thanks!

BTW, I really enjoy your threads Mallek!


That would be a turn up for the books if we went to over this.

Hold on a minute is that a weapon of mass destruction I see over your shoulder... :lol2:

Thankyou I've lost count of the threads I have started

It always seems to me that the relationship between America and Britain is like two brothers with a bit of sibling rivalry.* *:)


I think it has something to with the war of Independence, I mean America is descended mostly from Great Britain, with a bit of Spain And France mixed in ;D

IMO, I think Great Britain is in the lead.

IMO, I think Great Britain is in the lead.


Sorry I am a bit thick when It comes to chat room jargen - what does IMO mean ???

In my opinion. I usually try to refrain from internet lingo, but it can be faster.

In my opinion.* I usually try to refrain from internet lingo, but it can be faster.


Ta! - right I am logging off for a bit now bye :angel:

Au revoir, Mallek. Hope to chat with you again soon.

Leave dh for a second and he's discussing politics. Sorry I will have a word. ;D
Vote Tony, I like his smile.

Leave dh for a second and he's discussing politics.* Sorry I will have a word.* ;D
Vote Tony, I like his smile.

whats dh or shouldn't I ask :-\

dear husband or something worse if needs be.

dear husband or something worse if needs be.

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
At first I was like, like what ??? and then I was like :o thats hilarious!!!
I'm still laughing about it. :roflmao:

You know what they say - if your wife's a tiger then don't pull her tail - personally I like it rough :lol2:

You know what they say - if your wife's a tiger then don't pull her tail - personally I like it rough :lol2:


Hee hee. I would like to be a fly on the wall for some of your conversations (conversations ONLY!)

I'd vote for Blair because, if nothing else, Blair knows how to form complete, coherent sentences and he knows what 2+2=. This is all said with love from an American Democrat who tends to exaggerate a bit.

Goodness, I can't help myself. It really irritated me, throughout the entire American presidential election, that people wanted a president who was like "the average joe". NO! I don't want my nation's leader to be of average (in our case, below average) intelligence. I want my president to be far more intelligent than me in most subjects.

Oh boy don't get me started ;) lol. First i guess i'll just say i'm Republican and everyone is entitled to their opinion and i'm gonna do my best not to rant :lol2: But you all make fun of Bush so i guess i'll just say i saw Kerry at the local Ihop the other day, they knew he was a professional flip-flopper. Now don't get me wrong, i'm no pilgrim, i'm just mostly conservative on most subjects... like abortion, homosexuality, etc. But these are my opinions based off my religion and i'm sure there are others here who agree with me and of course there are those who don't. But i personally absolutely love both these men who have great love for their country's and care for their people. I like George Bush because he doesn't take himself so seriously as in if he messes up saying something, he can laugh about it. He has an addicting laugh, and a good spirit. John Kerry wouldn't have been al that bad.. just Bush is my role-model... i say God Bless to whoever God chooses to lead our country.... in this case.... 4 MORE YEARS!

I'd also like to agree with Locke that these guys love their countries. They want to do what they feel is right for their people, whether or not their all of their people agree (not all of their people can agree anyway :D )

Well lol, everyone in politics wants to help their country eh? lol they just have different ways of doing so. And your right, not everyone will agree. Cuz not everyone is religious :angel:

And there are so many religions too.

As long as we're all civil and treat each other equally, it's cool.

A bit off topic - but I just want to see what people political persuasion is and religion. :angel:

I'm

Politics - Socialist

Religion - Agnostic

No judging on this to-wards anyone on this please :)

Politics: Liberal Democrat

Religion: Atheist

I guess I'm weighing in on this a bit late but---everytime I get into a politcal debate with someone, I'm always reminded that no matter how we feel about a certain issue, everyone can probably agree that it is a great thing to live in a country that allows us to debate. Whether we lean left or right, we can all voice our opinions and we can all vote. That's what's really important--and it's a great thing. People who are citizens of the US and the UK are some of the luckiest people in the world because we have freedoms that others can only dream about--no matter who the current president or prime minister is. :)

I'm glad to see that this thread hasn't turned into anything ugly--because it is differences of opinion, and the freedom to express those opinions, that helps our society thrive.

PS: You don't have to be religious to be a republican.

I agree with everything you said, welshmuse.* And I have some good friends who are Agnostics and Republicans.

Welshmuse, I couldn't have said it better myself. And I agree with Locke's post about his beliefs being the reason that he likes Bush. I have my own reasons for liking Bush and not Kerry. Not everyone in our country is always going to like our leader. I didn't before 9/11. I do now.

Politics: Independent
Religion: Christian

Mallek, and just so I make this clear: I do NOT like Bush just because he is from TEXAS! I didn't like him when he was governor! ;)

Mallek, and just so I make this clear: I do NOT like Bush just because he is from TEXAS! I didn't like him when he was governor! ;)


LOL, have you been following me :lol2:

@ welshmuse are you actualy Welsh ???

:lol2: Yes, I am following you now that I understand your sense of humor better! Just be careful the next time you enter the domain of the Angels! You know the Angels can kick some serious butt!

:lol2: Yes, I am following you now that I understand your sense of humor better! Just be careful the next time you enter the domain of the Angels! You know the Angels can kick some serious butt!


Eeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkk :lol2:

Mallek, have you been getting into trouble? The Angels are not behind the rock thing, so I hope that's not it.

Hi!

I am very new to the fuselage, but I just wanted to say I think it is really cool how people are open minded and respectful here. *If this discussion were happening on many other boards people would be screaming at each other by now. *

Politics: Republican
Religion: Christian

Amber

Mallek, have you been getting into trouble?* The Angels are not behind the rock thing, so I hope that's not it.


They are I've seen them...''whince'' :lol2:

Hi!

I am very new to the fuselage, but I just wanted to say I think it is really cool how people are open minded and respectful here. *If this discussion were happening on many other boards people would be screaming at each other by now. *

Politics: Republican
Religion: Christian

Amber


That's because this is my board - and I think that if you get to hooked up on things you loose sight of the big picture :laugh:

It's good to be king...Oh yeah!!! :lol2:

@ welshmuse are you actualy Welsh ???


I'm American. But, my last name is Welsh and that's where my father's family came from originally. I spent some time there a few years ago and totally fell in love with the country, so that's really where the welshmuse thing comes from. I was in Cardiff during the '99 Rugby World Cup (THAT was fun) and also spent some time in a town called Abergavenny (sp?). Actually, I'm looking at some post-grad programs in the UK, so I might be back across the pond at some point. :)

Oh, and so as to not be totally off-topic:

Politics: Fairly conservative/libertarian on my view of the role of gov't, fairly liberal on social issues. I don't like to tie myself to one party. If anyone understands what that means, you might want to tell me, because I just confused myself. :laugh:
Relgion: Mainly non-practicing Roman Catholic.

Cool!

All hail King Mallek!!!

;D

If we're going to be specific...

Overall, I'm moderately liberal when it comes to the government. As a member of the ACLU and NOW, I'm very liberal when it comes to civil liberties.

ADA, you're going to give Mallek an even bigger head than he already does! ;)

Bore Da Welshmuse :lol2:

Oh, that would probably be a bad thing

How about :

All nod respectfully in his general direction!

;D

Goodnight!

:lol2: Yes, I think a general nod in Mallek's direction is sufficient to let him know we appreciate this thread! ;)

Ha ha now I have you all under my spell - tommorrow I shall take over the world (maniarcle laughter) ha ha ha ha ha ha aha ha aha haa hah ahah ahah aha ah aha aha aha hah aha ahah aha aha haah ahah ah :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

:lol2: Mallek, it takes more than that for me to fall under someone's spell!

Rock on Tommy :lol2:

I guess cuz I'm new, it was easier to enspell me :)

Does anyone know a Willow type person to help me out?

(sorry for the random BtVS reference, It was my first love...but now that I have Lost the world is shiny and new again)

I guess cuz I'm new, it was easier to enspell me :)

Does anyone know a Willow type person to help me out?

(sorry for the random BtVS reference, It was my first love...but now that I have Lost the world is shiny and new again)


Look up chocy bickie :lol2:

Glad you could help her out Mallek! I've only been here a week, so I haven't met enough people to know who to direct her to!

Glad you could help her out Mallek! I've only been here a week, so I haven't met enough people to know who to direct her to!


She is my wife after all and I do love her dearly :angel:

But when she take on the form fo 'Chocky Bickie' She becomes my nemesis :lol2:

Ha ha now I have you all under my spell - tommorrow I shall take over the world (maniarcle laughter) ha ha ha ha ha ha aha ha aha haa hah ahah ahah aha ah aha aha aha hah aha ahah aha aha haah ahah ah :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

Wait until I tell chocy. I don't think she'd approve of your plan! ;P Of course, there probably is no need since she'll find your post eventually.

this may be a bit late but....down with the evil democrats

Hey. I'm not evil. I hope you were joking. If not, then oh well. :lol2:

Non-jokey name calling isn't tolerated.* Anyone who partakes in that actions shall be ignored!

*Not accusing anyone. I'm just saying*

But if for no other reason, he's more credible than Bush because he was elected by the people, not selected by partisan judges.


I see your point regarding the 2000 election (I went to law school and still don't understand Bush v. Gore) but what about the 2004 election?

this may be a bit late but....down with the evil democrats


Hark!!! Do I see a Confederate Flag Waving, Hmmmmmmmmm ???

Have to say Blair, though I don't like him at all. He claims to care about the Iraqis, yet supported sanctions against Iraq that killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children. But if for no other reason, he's more credible than Bush because he was elected by the people, not selected by partisan judges.

politics: independent. Either far left or libertarian on just about everything. Mostly I'd just like humans to stop acting like viruses destroying the world and its lifeforms.

religion: agnostic


There is also the fact that Bush and Tony have started a so called 'war on terror', and yet Tony went and shook hands with Colonel Gadhaffi and he was responsible for the PAN AM Lockerbie Bombing, and I don't see a coalition marching into Dublin or Belfast???

Tru, Blair did shake hands with the man responsible for the Lockerbie flight, but Bush didn't. The one thing that I do like about Bush is that he stands his ground when it comes to something he believes in. Just my opinion! :)

Hark!!! Do I see a Confederate Flag Waving, Hmmmmmmmmm ???


Actually, it was the Republican Party that wanted to abolish slavery.

Actually, it was the Republican Party that wanted to abolish slavery.


I know it's just that Confederates lost - and me and texans - well need I say more :lol2:

:lol2: Mallek them's fighting words!! Quit talking about us Texans! ;)

Bush <3's Oil

Mallek,

Now that it is morning (well at least for another 20 minutes or so), I can say "bore da" back!

Mallek,

Now that it is morning (well at least for another 20 minutes or so), I can say "bore da" back!


Well just say Dwryn Da then!!! :laugh:

this may be a bit late but....down with the evil democrats

Oh come now, we can be civilzed... your making us look bad.... I mean, i find it kind of weird that some democrats don't agree with what Bush stands for..... so they make fun of they way he is...?? I mean... he's from the south, and by saying they are uneducated... you are being mean towards others from the south, who are even quite possibly of the same political views as yourselves! But me

Political: Republican

Religion: Christian........ And yeah, i didn't mean to make it sound that you had to have a God-based religion to be or consider agreeing with Republicans... I know Christians who are democrats... i respect them the same.

And i do not think less of agnostics and athiests etc. I just disagree is all. I"m also glad this hasn't turned into a bash fest :lol2: Just goes to show that some ppl in this country who disagree can still get along ;) Love to you all.

I knew that you were joking. I was too. I think Bush is an educated man, after all, he did go to Yale. But you have to admit that he isn't the brightest president we have ever had. ::) Anyway, if you thought I was bad, you should see my Dad. During the whole Presidential Debate, he was making fun of Bush's smile. He bugs me.

Bush or Tony huh?

As Obi Wan Kenobi wisely said: "Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"

That said I wouldn need to think hard on that one before I put on above the other, cause I've got serious issues with both.

And what am I

Political: Generally moderate liberal, with more leftist views on a few things.
Religion: Roman Catholic

How's that for a pair that is generally seen as somewhat contradictory?

Bush or Tony huh?

As Obi Wan Kenobi wisely said: "Who is the more foolish, the fool or the fool who follows him?"

That said I wouldn need to think hard on that one before I put on above the other, cause I've got serious issues with both.*

And what am I

Political:* Generally moderate liberal, with more leftist views on a few things.
Religion: Roman Catholic

How's that for a pair that is generally seen as somewhat contradictory?*




I'd say :lol2:

I wouldn't call someone from the South uneducated. My father's side of the family are from the South. And I believe Bush was born in Connecticut.

Lol G, he does have kind of a corny smile eh? It's a funny thing that most of us get our political views from our parents eh? We hear that side of the story all the time and we agree with it. It's not normally something teens and young adults rebel about, at least to my knowledge. Like a parent says dont smoke so some ppl are more inclined to want to smoke, but a parent says, i'm a Democrat/Republican you should be too (they dont' literally say that) that we tend to be also. I've also grown up with Christian education and those views are always expressed and thrown my way the same. I'm not saying i'm a republican because of that... just that it seems to be the case on most instances. But it is my choice to be a believer in our President, and he's yet to do something to deter me otherwise. And yeah, he went to college in Yale. I didn't know he was born up in New England.. amazing how he ended up how he is :lol2: I dont' know much about Tony Blair, only that he cares enough to try to help Bush instead of make the problem worse by being a French professional white flag waver lol. Sry i'll try to cut back on insults... i'm still learning how to be nice while discussing politics. ;) :lol2: And i guess i never really meant you guys by saying he wasnt educated it just seems to be that's the way the wind blows from democrats.. particularly more liberal ppl. Oh and another reason i'm conservative and republican (not a pilgrim mind you, i can't stand too conservative ppl!) my morals tell me certain liberal ideas are wrong and your morals tell you they aren't. That's all its a matter of. Me being a believe in God and Christian following the Bible's commandments would disagree with Abortion and other touchy subjects i won't bring up so as not to offend anyone here, while you who may be agnostics or athiests would have nothing to say thats wrong and that the ppl have the freedom of choice in matters that tend to their own. So again, i leave in knowing that we agree to disagree. But i guess i might request that we try to come together as Americans not as separated viewed ppl and i pray for Howard Dean and the Clintons all the time that their influence would be good (not asking them to change mind you) just that we can be at peace cuz we are americans (and we aren't forgetting you beautiful Canadians!) and we should be able to be one nation. I hope that it's Howard Dean's goal as well to not further divide the parties.

I know this post is long enough lol but i wonder how many of you who didn't like Bush or Kerry, would you rather have had Dean be the main man for running or had you not liked anyone that had potential for this.... oh and did anyone here vote for Ralph Nader? lol. I think it's funny cuz when Democrats vote for independents, it only helps us Republicans out, who normally stick with the party.

I know this post is long enough lol but i wonder how many of you who didn't like Bush or Kerry, would you rather have had Dean be the main man for running or had you not liked anyone that had potential for this.... oh and did anyone here vote for Ralph Nader? lol. I think it's funny cuz when Democrats vote for independents, it only helps us Republicans out, who normally stick with the party.


Which is exactly how Woodrow Wilson got elected! The Republican party split and gave the Dems the advantage.

My parents never talked about their beliefs too much with me (except not to be racist, homophobic...), so I just kind of formed them of my own accord. We just so happen to agree :)

Am I the only red-stater on here who voted for GWB? I'm curious.

Four.

More.

Years.

And thank God for it.

voted GWB here

But I've changed my mind to ::::::

JJ for pres

Everything I Know About American Politics I Learned From Kevin Costner Movies & The West Wing... So I couldn't possibly comment on the US political 'scene'. :)

However, in the UK, it seems whoever is in power is the same as the previous leader/party. Reguardless of who they are. Yay for apathy and disillusionment. Having said that, when Mr.Blair was voted in, things looked great, the optimist inside me says they could be again. There is just too much in-fighting, it's like kindergarten or something. :laugh:

Yes the good thing about American voting is that you actually get to vote in the leader you want - and just have to put up with the one who is head of the party you want in power - infact the only way to get your party into power is to vote for your local MP and hope that your party get enough seats in the houses of commons - crap aint it? :-\

I voted GWB! I prouidly admit it. I have my own reasons for not liking John Kerry, but since the election is over with, it isn't worth rehashing!

Mallek, I am so glad to see you this morning! :lol2:

I voted for Tony Blair to be Prime Minister back in the day, I voted for him to stay prime Minister, and I will vote for him again, this time round.

I don't agree with everything he has done since coming to power, but having lived as a child through however many years it was of Conservative rule (13 years or something, and bloody hard ones for my grandmother), I really do feel that Labour are the lesser of 2 evils.

I don't support the war in Iraq, but I DO support my country and our troops 100%. *I don't believe you have to support the war in Iraq to be patriotic. *I watched Farenheit 911 and cried for hours before sending Michael Moore a stroppy e-mail asking him why he didn't see fit to mention that British troops were out there fighting as part of the Coalition forces. (Rhetorical question really as I know that mentioning such a large, well organised army being out there alongside the US troops wouldn't have fitted the agenda)

I believe the law against hunting with dogs is a good thing, and I hope it will be properly policed.

I am pro choice
I don't know enough about our immigration problems to make up my mind on that subject.
I have no issue with homosexuality, some of my friends are homosexual, and fantastic guys they are too.

I hoped that John Kerry would win the election. *He may have been considered a flip flopper, but I think it just showed that he is able to understand when he has made mistakes. *He may or may not have been any better a president than GWBush, who knows. *???

Having said all that, I love America, and american people. *I have good friends in Arizona and have been there several times. *More friendly people you could never wish to meet! ;D

If I still have anybody prepared to talk to me on here, I will now ruin it by saying, I loved Bill Clinton, the guy rocked! *;) I wonder what would have happened if your system was the same as ours, where he could have kept on and on, until his own party got fed up with him, and ousted him.

I am amazed that this topic has not degenerated into a slanging match by now, and applaud all of you taking part for not letting it do so.

:lol2: I voted both times for Clinton! :lol2:

haha CruCheri! Wow, well i don't particularly like Bill Clinton but then again i don't like GWB's daddy either (he couldnt' finish the job in Iraq!) but my parents voted for Bush Sr. I can't believe Clinton got re-elected lol. I know Dem's make jokes bout him too with his whole claiming he didn't do anything wrong but at least he was man enough later to admit he did. I'm kinda surprised that you voted for Blair UKGirl having wanted John Kerry.

I am not pro choice i'm pro LIFE and i'm against homosexuality but not homosexuals... i'm not "homophobic" as the term is used to slander others who dont' see their point of view on the subject. God made man and woman and it's a very sickening thought that that's been ruined but yes that of course is my opinion based on the beliefs that are mine. I too am glad this has not turned into a political bash fest and i'm sure Karri is glad as well haha. Red states are Republicans aren't they? So why wouldn't a red stater vote for Bush? Well i guess just cuz it is majority doesn't mean it isnt everybody lol. Nvm me lol. I'm 17 so when i'm 21 i'll be most likely voting for a republican, especially if Hilary runs as Dem cuz she is just scary! lol. But i don't think we're gonna have anybody to offer up in four years so i might just have to go Dem on my very first time voting!! IMAGINE THAT!! WOW! rofl.. i've never thought of that haha. Your not a smart American if you don't vote for what you believe in and vote for your party no matter what ya know?

As for John Kerry and his flip flopping--- it wasn't a matter of being wrong, it was a matter of what the public wanted in the polls. Clinton is the best example of this... He didn't have a personal opinion he stuck by, he gave the public what was the most popular at the time... that constitutes flip flopping if anything lol. Good grief i better stop cuz your all gonna see how long this is and not read it lol. I'm good at writing down thoughts haha.

Your not a smart American if you don't vote for what you believe in and vote for your party no matter what ya know?* *


Even if you can't spell ;) ;D

Even if you can't spell ;) ;D


ROFLMAO I was an English minor! My friends are always getting pissed at me for pointing out their typos in their emails to me!

Locke, there is no way in hell that I would vote for Hillary! I agree that she is scary! As for Kerry, I wouldn't have voted for him if he were the last man on Earth. I come from a long family line of military men, and my dad served in Vietnam. The fact that Kerry came back to the US and protested against Vietnam while my dad was still over there fighting makes me ill. JMO That is only one of MANY reasons that I didn't vote Kerry!

:laugh:* And here I am hoping Hillary runs so I can vote for her!

:lol2: :lol2: That's what makes America great! Everyone is entitled to their own opinions!

Even if you can't spell

Haha G, yes even ef ya caint speel! lol *Oh and Cherri, Since you did vote for Clinton but wouldn't for his wife, do u find her more liberal to your liking, you had a change of heart on which party to vote for? Just curious.... Yeah i used to be all picky about ppl's grammar as well just to be annoying but it really helped me keep my English grade up lol. As soon as i stopped doing it, i went back to being a B student in English haha. *

Yeah, i'm not a Warmonger as some would say it but i do believe in the right for everyone to have freedom (not socialism mallek lol) like we do here in the Western Hemisphere and in Europe. *The fact that in Vietnam and Korea was handled like crap just makes me further want this job to be taken care of out in Baghdad, Iraq, Syria, wherever the heck we're going next to get done! *I would totally pay higher taxes to support our troups and for the good of those ppl over there. It's one thing they dont' show you on the news all the good things and the people thanking the troops and the appreciativeness of them... they only show the radicals who make car bombs and cause other problems... hell, i'm surprised they talked much about the success of the voting. I burst out into tears when their elections were over in joy for them. ::) Call me silly, i'm a sentimental guy, i'm just very political as G can attest to ;) I mean, the Iraqis' had to vote for Saddam or not vote at all for decades. *I was thrilled when we captured important people and i mourned for those who died on both sides. *I dont like war but i believe there are times when it's necessary. *I, like George Bush, am not afraid to stick up for what i believe in, and i'd die with any threat with the same views. *I believe Bush's character of his will to make this country better than where he got it shows how much he cares for this nation and for the people, even those who did not vote for him. *I admire that character, and aspire to do the same..... happy-rant done :P

Haha vos, i knew exactly what the site would be before i even opened it.....altho not as bad as maybe i presumed lol. But the fact is, you twist and turn things that aren't his fault in actions but with John Kerry he is proven to do so with his voting for things..... including raising taxes to extremes. So i have no regard in accepting sites like those that are only started to bash the President instead of pointing out real indeed problems. You dont' normally find John Kerry hate sites cuz we're not the type of people to do that but for liberal (hence where the term "radical" came from) believes if you disagree you have every right to make fun of and persevere in making things worse if you disagree. I suggest making your opinion stated instead of dropping a deadline to an ill credited site.

:lol2: :lol2:* That's what makes America great! Everyone is entitled to their own opinions!


You are In England - as long as you keep them to yourself :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

You are In England - as long as you keep them to yourself :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:


:lol2: :lol2: Mallek! Where have you been hiding?? I've missed you making me laugh!! ;)

Locke, I liked Clinton, but I didn't like his wife. I am an independent. My vote depends on the issues and the stance of those involved. I did NOT vote for GWB the first time around. I didn't like him as governor of my state. 9/11 changed my views on some issues, and I happen to have gained more respect for our President since 9/11.

:Locke, I liked Clinton, but I didn't like his wife. I am an independent. My vote depends on the issues and the stance of those involved. I did NOT vote for GWB the first time around. I didn't like him as governor of my state. 9/11 changed my views on some issues, and I happen to have gained more respect for our President since 9/11.


I liked his secretary - if you no what I mean? :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

:lol2: :lol2: ROFLMAO @ Mallek :lol2: :lol2:

You want a Lewinsky, eh?? ;)

I have a question for Mallek and the other Brits on the board--what exactly is the procedure for electing the PM? My understanding is the the PM is the leader of the majority party. So does that mean you can only vote for PM if you are a member of that party? How does it work?

Thanks in advance!

PS: Prynhawn da Mallek!

If you choose to vote, you vote either for a local representative (Local Election) or the political party (National Election), the leader of the party that wins becomes Prime Minister. So we don't actually have a say who the leader of a political party is, unless we're a member. I think. I'm not too hot on this as I don't vote (mostly due to apathy and I don't trust any of them... you just gotta look at Mr.Blair's smile. ::))

Ok vos, i didn't give you the benefit of the doubt, i just don't believe Bush flip flopped, at least to not make an issue of it and i only see it as an attack on Bush cuz we hit a soft spot saying Kerry was a flip-flopper and he had no answer for it. *Yeah, your right, it was radical to say that colored ppl should have the same rights be in same places etc... that was wrong tho and i'm glad the way things are running now. Ah Cheri, i had forgotten you were an Independent. *My brother-in-law is a bit more liberal than i am and he voted for Bush as well as my sister his wife. * We are in Indiana, so we're a big red state. I can't even explain to you how crazy it was visiting in Ohio, there were Bush and Kerry signs everywhere! lol. I don't believe any president ever to be elected hadn't won both Ohio and Florida... kind of a strange fact. * Yeah, 9/11 only made me like Bush even more, i really started following up his philosophies and found them equal to mine. *Cheers guys.

Thanks ohood, that was helpful. :)

Locke, :lol2: Sorry I can't jump on the Republican or Democrat bandwagons. I really do research all of the candidates for every elected office that I will be voting for so that I can make a decision based on the candidates stance on issues that are important to me. This year it just so happened that I voted mostly Republican, but that's only because of the redistricting that was done. We lost 1 of our most beloved Democratic Congressmen because of it. He now serves another Congressional district.

I have a question for Mallek and the other Brits on the board--what exactly is the procedure for electing the PM?* My understanding is the the PM is the leader of the majority party.* So does that mean you can only vote for PM if you are a member of that party?* How does it work?

Thanks in advance!

PS: Prynhawn da Mallek!


No you don't vote for the PM directly nor the party - you have to vote for your local representitive of the party you want in power - which is really crap - coz you may get a good local rep but a crap PM or vice versa :angel:

P.S. Nos Da welshmuse :laugh:

Haha, Cru, you don't have to apologize at all lol. That's what Independents are aren't they? lol. Might be one of the wisest things you can be i guess. Yeah, overall this was a good political year for us.... here in indiana we got Mitch Daniels as Governor! WOOT WOOT! I'm interested to see what the Republican party will offer up as the candidate for 2008.... but as my dad says... dont' put worries in your head when the bridge is 4 years long lol. Something to that effect, he said it better lol. You know, this could end up being woman for president vs. woman for president. I wonder who'd win between Condaleezza Rice and Hilary Clinton? :lol2:

Oh and here's a question for you, have you ever voted for an Independent running?

Locke,* :lol2:* Sorry I can't jump on the Republican or Democrat bandwagons. I really do research all of the candidates for every elected office that I will be voting for so that I can make a decision based on the candidates stance on issues that are important to me. This year it just so happened that I voted mostly Republican, but that's only because of the redistricting that was done. We lost 1 of our most beloved Democratic Congressmen because of it. He now serves another Congressional district.


I thought you would be waving the Confederate Flag coming from Texas and all :lol2: Crush the Yankies whoo hoo Yee har , ridem' cowboy :lol2:

*snaps suspenders* We won that war ;) lol Just playing... we're one nation, that's why i wanted the North to win.... well if i had been there and even was in the South. ALtho i guess one could never know, having slaves would have been the way of life and it was crucial to survival. But yeah, if i believe the same way i do now, most definitely freeing slaves would be on the agenda.

*snaps suspenders** *We won that war ;) lol Just playing... we're one nation, that's why i wanted the North to win.... well if i had been there and even was in the South. ALtho i guess one could never know, having slaves would have been the way of life and it was crucial to survival. But yeah, if i believe the same way i do now, most definitely freeing slaves would be on the agenda.


I think that some people just except the most inhumane things as normal if they have grown up with and no-one else seems to be bothered - you just go along with it and then believe it to be just - a sad state of affairs realy but most people are sheep I am sorry to say :'(

I thought you would be waving the Confederate Flag coming from Texas and all :lol2: Crush the Yankies whoo hoo Yee har , ridem' cowboy :lol2:


:lol2: :lol2: Sorry, I'm afraid that I have always had an independent streak! I only went along with things that I thought were right in my own opinion! I would have probably been helping with the underground railroad if I had been alive then! :)


Oh and here's a question for you, have you ever voted for an Independent running?

Not for President. I have for other things.

Isn't an underground railroad called a subway :lol2:

ROFLMAO @ Mallek

Sorry, hon, I forget you aren't up on your American History! The Underground Railroad was the network of people who helped slaves escape to the north during the time of slavery. :)

btw We are probably going to need a new Bosley if you're interested! ;)

ROFLMAO @ Mallek

Sorry, hon, I forget you aren't up on your American History! The Underground Railroad was the network of people who helped slaves escape to the north during the time of slavery. :)

btw* We are probably going to need a new Bosley if you're interested! ;)


I know my history - in fact I know a song about the underground railroad - can't remeber who rote it though :angel:

I don't know if I want to be bosely now coz you rejected me the first time :lol2:

Mallek, you make me laugh! I promise we won't reject you this time! ;D

Cool :laugh:

haha CruCheri! Wow, well i don't particularly like Bill Clinton but then again i don't like GWB's daddy either (he couldnt' finish the job in Iraq!) but my parents voted for Bush Sr. I can't believe Clinton got re-elected lol. I know Dem's make jokes bout him too with his whole claiming he didn't do anything wrong but at least he was man enough later to admit he did. I'm kinda surprised that you voted for Blair UKGirl having wanted John Kerry.

I am not pro choice i'm pro LIFE and i'm against homosexuality but not homosexuals... i'm not "homophobic" as the term is used to slander others who dont' see their point of view on the subject. God made man and woman and it's a very sickening thought that that's been ruined but yes that of course is my opinion based on the beliefs that are mine. I too am glad this has not turned into a political bash fest and i'm sure Karri is glad as well haha. Red states are Republicans aren't they? So why wouldn't a red stater vote for Bush? Well i guess just cuz it is majority doesn't mean it isnt everybody lol. Nvm me lol. I'm 17 so when i'm 21 i'll be most likely voting for a republican, especially if Hilary runs as Dem cuz she is just scary! lol. But i don't think we're gonna have anybody to offer up in four years so i might just have to go Dem on my very first time voting!! IMAGINE THAT!! WOW! rofl.. i've never thought of that haha. Your not a smart American if you don't vote for what you believe in and vote for your party no matter what ya know?

As for John Kerry and his flip flopping--- it wasn't a matter of being wrong, it was a matter of what the public wanted in the polls. Clinton is the best example of this... He didn't have a personal opinion he stuck by, he gave the public what was the most popular at the time... that constitutes flip flopping if anything lol. Good grief i better stop cuz your all gonna see how long this is and not read it lol. I'm good at writing down thoughts haha.

As for paragraphs:

Paragraph #1: Ross Perot cost George H.W. Bush the election in 1992. He then proceded to take the election from Bob Dole in 1996. Both of which were from splitting the conservative, America-first vote.

Paragraph #2: I’m an Arkansan. Ask one of us what we think about Hitlery, so we knew how she was before she burst upon the national scene. Ask us how her public school accountability plan turned out. I’ll give you a hint: it made the AEA (Arkansas Education Assoc. howl, but it was a total failure, especially in terms of accountability).

I got to shake her husband’s hand, then the gov of Arkansas, soon to be the president, and at nine years old, something didn’t click in my head that this guy was exactly right.

Yeah, I can say that I’ve shook a man that was President’s hand, but I can’t say that I’ve bragged about it.

Paragraph #3: Look at Kerry now. He’s offering a Senate resolution honoring W.E.B. DeBois, who was a known anti-American, Communist supporter.

Not to mention Kerry met with Red Vietnam’s Ho Chi Minh gov’t in the early 1970’s, which was a clear violation of Geneva law and U.S. law – the latter of which would brand him as an absolute traitor.

While Bush may not be the best candidate for the job – he was better than the ABB (anyone but Bush candidate), that was Kerry.

Any one year political science major would’ve told you that Kerry wouldn’t’ be elected. Hell, the man is a borderline socialist – which fits him in with the left wing of the Democratic party.

And I’m a registered Democrat – I’m just sad at what has happened to my party in the past ten years.

*snaps suspenders** *We won that war ;) lol Just playing... we're one nation, that's why i wanted the North to win.... well if i had been there and even was in the South. ALtho i guess one could never know, having slaves would have been the way of life and it was crucial to survival. But yeah, if i believe the same way i do now, most definitely freeing slaves would be on the agenda.

My folks were backwater Mississippi Delta farmers, couldn't afford to buy even one slave, and they survived............let me put it this way, slaves were to landowners then as to what combines are to farmers now...and combines cost several hundred thousand dollars.

My ancestors simply couldn't afford it, if they even wanted to buy some at all. My folks, up to my father's parents, and even he, lived dirt poor. They could barely afford amenities for the family, much less a single slave.

Look at it this way: The South, in 1860, had 9 million people. Of that 9 million, 6 million were white.

Of that six million, 365,000 were slaveowners.

Of that 365,000, half of that, 182,500 were wealthy. The other half owned only a handful of slaves, and were rich. They were basically poor farmers, and only owned one or two, and those were pretty much a member of the family.

I know it's off-topic, but why would 5,365,000, fight for something only 365,000 had, and only 182,500 of that were the rich slaveowners, some as described in Uncle Tom's Cabin?

Doesn't make sense.

...........And yet, the overwhelming majority of Southerners that were non-slaveowners, fought for the South in the War of Northern Aggression, otherwise known as the Civil War.

You simply cannot believe everything you read in a history book.

You've got to look it up and research it for yourself.

DR

How does America feel about a communist country becoming the 4th largest super power i.e. China ???

Mallek, the world is just a scary scary place these days.

DR, interesting points you raised! Don't have time right now to respond to most of them. The work ogres are pulling me away!

How does America feel about a communist country becoming the 4th largest super power i.e. China ???


Yeah, no relations with Cuba because they're a communist nation but China's cool ::)

How does America feel about a communist country becoming the 4th largest super power i.e. China ???


China is becoming less and less of a "Communist" country every year. They way they run their economy bears little resemblance to Marxism.

I was not thrilled when the US first gave Most Favored Nation status to China, not because it's a Communist country per se, but because of its blatent and continuing human rights violations. But I've changed my mind somewhat. Due to liberalized trade, Chinese citizens hopefully have greater access to political and social discourse outside of their own country, and that can only be a good thing.

As for Cuba, yes it IS a bit ridiculous that we trade freely with China and not Cuba. The only reason the embargo exists is that the government, for whatever reason, doesn't think trade with Cuba will be beneficial for American companies. When American corporations decide they can increase profits through trade with Cuba, the embargo will be lifted. It's also a personal thing with Castro--as soon as he dies, the embargo will probably die too. Just my guess.

what about neither? :D Well if I had to choose, I'd say Blair but it feels like he had no own will so... *sigh*

What about Arnold Swhch- well I can't spell his name... Terminator!!! :laugh: (jk)

I have some die-hard Republican friends who say they would never vote for Arnie if the Constitution were to be amended to allow naturalized citizens run for president.

Arnold would never be elected to the Presidency....if they even amended the Constitution which will not happen.

I know that. I was just sayin'.

I know I know, I was also just saying lol

China is becoming less and less of a "Communist" country every year.* They way they run their economy bears little resemblance to Marxism.*

I was not thrilled when the US first gave Most Favored Nation status to China, not because it's a Communist country per se, but because of its blatent and continuing human rights violations.* But I've changed my mind somewhat.* Due to liberalized trade, Chinese citizens hopefully have greater access to political and social discourse outside of their own country, and that can only be a good thing.*

As for Cuba, yes it IS a bit ridiculous that we trade freely with China and not Cuba.* The only reason the embargo exists is that the government, for whatever reason, doesn't think trade with Cuba will be beneficial for American companies.* When American corporations decide they can increase profits through trade with Cuba, the embargo will be lifted.* It's also a personal thing with Castro--as soon as he dies, the embargo will probably die too.* Just my guess.*


yes but it is only because china could be a threat - were as cuba is just a tiny island off the coast of America :angel:

yes but it is only because china could be a threat - were as cuba is just a tiny island off the coast of America :angel:


That's true. Of course Cuba was a huge threat in the early 1960's--but that pretty much ended when communism fell in the USSR.

As for China being a threat, I think that's another argument for why western countries should trade freely with China. As long as China's economy is dependant on the other superpowers, China will lack an incentive to become hostile. We hope. :)

Good point welshmuse ;D

That's true. Of course Cuba was a huge threat in the early 1960's--but that pretty much ended when communism fell in the USSR.


Wasn't this the Cuban missile crisis ???

Wasn't this the Cuban missile crisis ???


Yep-the USSR had missiles in Cuba aimed right at the US. The US confronted the Soviets about it on the UN floor (wow-we used to actually handle things at the UN! :)) and the Soviets denied the existence of the missiles. Until we showed them photographic proof. Of course, the US also had weapons in various places aimed at the USSR. Anyway it was probably the closest we ever came to actual combat during the Cold War.

Yep-the USSR had missiles in Cuba aimed right at the US.* The US confronted the Soviets about it on the UN floor (wow-we used to actually handle things at the UN!* :)) and the Soviets denied the existence of the missiles.* Until we showed them photographic proof.* Of course, the US also had weapons in various places aimed at the USSR.* Anyway it was probably the closest we ever came to actual combat during the Cold War.*


Wasn't Vietnam combat then ???

Wasn't Vietnam combat then ???


Excellent point. Vietnam was fought over communism (well...actually it started when the US got pulled into the situation by the French, but that's besides the point). But, it's not technically considered part of the "Cold War" because the US wasn't directly fighting the USSR. And contrary to what people thought at the time, Ho Chi Minh was given virtually no help from the Soviets.

But yeah, I think "Cold War" is a very misleading term because there was a lot of combat during that time to maintain the power balance between the USSR and the US. It's just that the two nations never entered into combat directly with one another. That's what I meant before--the Cuban Missile Crisis was the closest the US came to combat with Russia itself.

Yes but the cold war Involved more than just the USA and the USSR, it invovled many of the countries that were involved in WW2 - NATO was formed after the war to protect the world from the USSR and Japan - and NATO comprised of all the allied forces from WW2 :angel:

Although ironicaly Russia is now part of NATO as is Japan - so why does NATO still exist if the thread is gone - you'd think they would atleast change the name - North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, I mean Japan and Russia aren't any where near the Atlantic - the Pacific should get a mention too :angel:

Although ironicaly Russia is now part of NATO as is Japan - so why does NATO still exist if the thread is gone - you'd think they would atleast change the name - North Atlantic Treaty Organisation, I mean Japan and Russia aren't any where near the Atlantic - the Pacific should get a mention too :angel:


That is ironic, isn't it? :)

The thing about the so-called Cold War is that it is somewhat messy to try to determine specifically which countries were involved, and which conflicts in the world were directly part of it. That's why I'm not a huge fan of the term itself. But you're right, it certainly wasn't just the US and the USSR.

Speaking of NATO, I spent a summer in Poland a couple of years ago and most people there were really excited to be in the Organization (sorry I gotta go with the American spelling :)). But of course they were NOT THRILLED that Russia was in NATO as well.

Anyway, I have a big day tomorrow so I'm hittin' the hay early (is that a phrase in England?). Nos da Mallek--I always enjoy reading your posts. :)

No-one realy says Hittin the hay any more - it's more of an old person saying. I agree with you previous points on how to deffine what the cold war is - I think it's just that super powers where directly fighting each other - war of the spies would be a better discription -

Nos da :angel:

war of the spies would be a better discription -


And it sounds cooler too!

And because everything's cooler in French:

La Guerre des Espions

French and cool should never be mentioned in the same breath - unless you are talking about the weather :lol2:

I met this French guy who was really cool. It was really cool when Anyanka turned a guy into a French man when his girlfriend wished Anyanka would turn him into a frog.

:P

I met this French guy who was really cool.* It was really cool when Anyanka turned a guy into a French man when his girlfriend wished Anyanka would turn him into a frog.

:P


Yeah that was cool -
But Ithink nyou Americans believe that Paris is Romance capitol of the world just because you saw it in a movie once
- Venice is much better

Now, now...let's not stereotype Americans.

Ok I wont - But it's the Law in England to hate the French with every passion of your being :-\

YEAH! Only Americans can stereotype others..... *::) *:P *I'm just playing guys. * So hows it goin there Mallek?

Oh and it should be the law here too :lol2:

Hate is not a family value. *Tsk, tsk. *shakes head in shame*

YEAH! Only Americans can stereotype others..... *::) *:P *I'm just playing guys. * So hows it goin there Mallek?

Oh and it should be the law here too* :lol2:


Yes I shall amend your bill of rights - *runs off with trusty pen*

Err...you wouldn't amend the Bill of Rights, you would amend the Constitution...

Your right, i'm sry :( Let's just say i'm not in great love with the French political leaders?? Can i say that? :P I"m sure there are tons and tons of great French people. *smacks hand* stupid prejudices! lol. Oh and Mallek, I should ask to have our constitution amended *ahem* my proposal....

"Lets colonize England and see how THEY feel" :P :lol2: Love to England. *Poof*

Dear Americans

To the citizens of the United States of America...
In the light of your failure to elect a proper President of the USA and thus to govern yourselves, we hereby give notice of the revocation of your independence, effective today.
Her Sovereign Majesty Queen Elizabeth II will resume monarchical duties over all states, commonwealths and other territories. (Except Utah, which she does not fancy.) Your new prime minister (The Right Honourable Tony Blair, MP for the 97.85% of you who have until now been unaware that there is a world outside your borders) will appoint a minister for America without the need for further elections. Congress and the Senate will be disbanded. A questionnaire will be circulated next year to determine whether any of you noticed. To aid the transition to a British Crown Dependency, the following rules are introduced with immediate effect:


1. You should look up "revocation" in the Oxford English Dictionary. Then look up "aluminium". Check the pronunciation guide. You will be amazed at just how wrongly you have been pronouncing it. The letter 'U' will be reinstated in words such as 'favour' and 'neighbour', skipping the letter 'U' is nothing more than laziness on your part. Likewise, you will learn to spell 'doughnut' without skipping half the letters. You will end your love affair with the letter 'Z' (pronounced 'zed' not 'zee'). You will learn that the suffix 'burgh is pronounced 'burra' e.g. Edinburgh. You are welcome to respell Pittsburgh as 'Pittsberg' if you can't cope with correct pronunciation. Generally, you should raise your vocabulary to acceptable levels. Look up "vocabulary". Using the same twenty seven words interspersed with filler noises such as "like" and "you know" is an unacceptable and inefficient form of communication. Look up "interspersed". There will be no more 'bleeps' in the Jerry Springer show. If you're not old enough to cope with bad language then you shouldn't have chat shows. When you learn to develop your vocabulary then you won't have to use bad language as often.


2. There is no such thing as "US English". We will let Microsoft know on your behalf. The Microsoft spell-checker will be adjusted to take account of the reinstated letter 'u'.


3. You should learn to distinguish the English and Australian accents. It really isn't that hard. English accents are not limited to Cockney, upper-class twit or Mancunian (Daphne in Frasier). You will also have to learn how to understand regional accents – Scottish dramas such as "Taggart" will no longer be broadcast with subtitles. While we're talking about regions, you must learn that there is no such place as Devonshire in England. The name of the county is "Devon". If you persist in calling it Devonshire, all American States will become "shires" e.g. Texasshire, Floridashire, Louisianashire.


4. Hollywood will be required occasionally to cast English actors as the good guys. Hollywood will be required to cast English actors to play English characters. British sit-coms such as "Men Behaving Badly" or "Red Dwarf" will not be re-cast and watered down for a wishy-washy American audience who can't cope with the humour of occasional political incorrectness.


5. You should relearn your original national anthem, "God Save The Queen", but only after fully carrying out task 1. We would not want you to get confused and give up half way through.


6. You should stop playing American "football". There is only one kind of football. What you refer to as American "football" is not a very good game. The 2.15% of you who are aware that there is a world outside your borders may have noticed that no one else plays "American" football. You will no longer be allowed to play it, and should instead play proper football. Initially, it would be best if you played with the girls. It is a difficult game. Those of you brave enough will, in time, be allowed to play rugby (which is similar to American "football", but does not involve stopping for a rest every twenty seconds or wearing full kevlar body armour like nancies). We are hoping to get together at least a US rugby sevens side by 2005. You should stop playing baseball. It is not reasonable to host an event called the 'World Series' for a game which is not played outside of America. Since only 2.15% of you are aware that there is a world beyond your borders, your error is understandable. Instead of baseball, you will be allowed to play a girls' game called "rounders" which is baseball without fancy team strip, oversized gloves, collector cards or hotdogs.


7. You should declare war on Quebec and France, using nuclear weapons if they give you any merde. The 97.85% of you who were not aware that there is a world outside your borders should count yourselves lucky. The Russians have never been the bad guys. "Merde" is French for "5hit". You will no longer be allowed to own or carry guns. You will no longer be allowed to own or carry anything more dangerous in public than a vegetable peeler. Because we don't believe you are sensible enough to handle potentially dangerous items, you will require a permit if you wish to carry a vegetable peeler in public.


8. July 4th is no longer a public holiday. November 2nd will be a new national holiday, but only in England. It will be called "Indecisive Day".


9. All American cars are hereby banned. They are crap and it is for your own good. When we show you German cars, you will understand what we mean. All road intersections will be replaced with roundabouts. You will start driving on the left with immediate effect. At the same time, you will go metric with immediate effect and without the benefit of conversion tables. Roundabouts and metrication will help you understand the British sense of humour.


10. You will learn to make real chips. Those things you call French fries are not real chips. Fries aren't even French, they are Belgian though 97.85% of you (including the guy who discovered fries while in Europe) are not aware of a country called Belgium. Those things you insist on calling potato chips are properly called "crisps". Real chips are thick cut and fried in animal fat. The traditional accompaniment to chips is beer which should be served warm and flat. Waitresses will be trained to be more aggressive with customers.


11. As a sign of penance 5 grams of sea salt per cup will be added to all tea made within the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this quantity to be doubled for tea made within the city of Boston itself.


12. The cold tasteless stuff you insist on calling beer is not actually beer at all, it is lager. From November 1st only proper British Bitter will be referred to as "beer", and European brews of known and accepted provenance will be referred to as "Lager".
The substances formerly known as "American Beer" will henceforth be referred to as "Near-Frozen Gnats' Urine", with the exception of the product of the American Budweiser company whose product will be referred to as "Weak Near-Frozen Gnats' Urine". This will allow true Budweiser (as manufactured for the last 1000 years in Pilsen, Czech Republic) to be sold without risk of confusion.


13. From December 1st the UK will harmonise petrol (or "Gasoline" as you will be permitted to keep calling it until April 1st 2005) prices with the former USA. The UK will harmonise its prices to those of the former USA and the Former USA will, in return, adopt UK petrol prices (roughly $6/US gallon - get used to it).


14. You will learn to resolve personal issues without using guns, lawyers or therapists. The fact that you need so many lawyers and therapists shows that you're not adult enough to be independent. Guns should only be handled by adults. If you're not adult enough to sort things out without suing someone or speaking to a therapist then you're not grown up enough to handle a gun.


15. Please tell us who killed JFK. It's been driving us crazy.


Tax collectors from Her Majesty's Government will be with you shortly to ensure the acquisition of all revenues due (backdated to 1776).
Thank you for your cooperation.

ROFL, that's the funniest thing i've ever read! lol. You must have gotten that from a hilarious website dedicated to pure comedy. But we govern ourselves just fine ;) The fact that some people can't admit defeat when things don't go there way should only be considered by others as the lower half of America. Good Day. xy Zed.

I got it off of fireflyfans.net and a friend of mine.* It's floating around the internet somewhere.* I'm not sure who the author is.

You forgot to mention the re-instagation of the letter 's' in words such as Realise etc and Leisure should be pronounced 'Lez-jure' note the 'j' makes a the same sound as in J'ai (french)

I didn't write it.* I said I didn't know who the author was.

I didn't write it.* I said I didn't know who the author was.


sorry my eyes are going a bit funny it's 01:38am over here :laugh:

Heh heh, that was funny, theG :laugh:

But as a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution, I say no taxation without represenation! I like our system of government just fine. :)

I TOTALLY agree about the watered down versions of British sitcoms. I get chills down my spine whenever I think about the American version of Coupling. :sick:

The American version of the Office starts this month. I love Steve Carrell, but still...I'm frightened. I'm afraid it will be like a car wreck that you don't want to see but can't help but look anyway.

Heh heh, that was funny, theG* :laugh:

But as a member of the Daughters of the American Revolution, I say no taxation without represenation!* I like our system of government just fine.* :)

I TOTALLY agree about the watered down versions of British sitcoms.* I get chills down my spine whenever I think about the American version of Coupling.* :sick:

The American version of the Office starts this month.* I love Steve Carrell, but still...I'm frightened.* I'm afraid it will be like a car wreck that you don't want to see but can't help but look anyway.* *


Yes but we have representation now

I once watched an episode the American version of ' Men behaving Badly ' It was for want of a better word - utter crap

Lol, i can't stand British comedies.... no offense, but they run on PBS real late and they are just boring and make no sense lol. I lurve Mr. Bean tho! Lol, altho is that really british.. or americans making fun of British? :P And eh, i have Canadian friends who tease me about Zee... we did it to make the song rhyme! lol. Oh and the U's etc. Good fun.... but i prefer American speaking.... i like lazy :P at least we don't call cops Bobbies haha. I don't even know if you do that anymore lol.

Yes but we have representation now


I know, Mallek. Actually I love England and hope to go to grad school there in a couple of years. (And possibly stay, who knows?). I just don't want the US taken over by the monarchy like in theG's post. :laugh:

I honestly didn't even know "Men Behaving Badly" was a rip-off at the time. But yeah, it was not good. I'm very concerned about the Office--I've heard that the first episode is taken almost verbatim from the original version. They just changed a few jokes and phrases that they didn't think would be understood by Americans. Even if the cast is good, how can anyone replace Ricky Gervais? Or Martin Freeman? I have all the Office DVDs--it's one of my favorite shows ever.

Locke: Yes Mr. Bean is British. I've heard other people they don't like the look of the BritComs they show on PBS--I've heard that the real problem is that the transfer is bad. This should be fixed by digitalization (or should I say digitalisation?). Plus, a lot of the shows on PBS are from the '70's.

Tru dat Welsh lol. The only show i like from the 70's is That 70's Show :P Which isn't really (obviously) from back then.

theG- I have to argue with your number 12. Everyone here knows Bud is actually camel pee. No gnats involved. :laugh:

I did like some of the sitcoms from England because no one can be insulting or nasty and yet so polite at the same time like the English.

I did see a show in the 70's called Sewllen Froggett (spelling doesn't count) and I couldn't understand a single word the man said. Whatever accent he used was incomprehensible to me. ???

Yes men behaving badly was big hit here but unlike you version it was set in a very grotty two story house - your version was more like a realy crap friends - Friends was cool. 'that 70's show' was rubbish anyway and I have seen both versions - funny thing is that both the scripts used on the American and English version where exaclty the same except for place names and car names etc


Hay G - did the Banana Trick work ???

:( No, but I'm going to try it again another time. I don't think they were yellow enough.

:(* No, but I'm going to try it again another time.* I don't think they were yellow enough.


perhaps - try pressing a bit harder next time


PS. out of context this conversation could be seriously missinterperated :lol2:

:D Those are always the best kinds of conversations!

yeah they are :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: