Well well........hear this. It all makes sense. And that ´s not bad in a world where everything is strange and weird like on the island.
I think that the baby in Claire´s belly is evil. If not satan, then something like it. BUT, in the care of Claire he could be good. GOD......or whatever the good force is, knows that he cannot kill the baby. BUT.....he crashes the plane for two reasons. One, it will be raised by Claire, he knows it, and the clairvoyant man saw it. He wouldn´t send to her death (killing the purgatory-theory). Two, If it goes bad, there will be no way off the island, cause it is not just any island. The problem is, that there are dark forces in the world that want the baby for its own. Theses forces are not human, even if they take the form of it. Ethan is one of them. He is stronger that he should be, and faster too. This is why he wants Claire. The rest of the surviviors are potential guardians of the child, but they all have to meet their own demons and face their own sins before being able to undertake this task. Locke already has. That was his destiny. Dono what the monster is yet, but it might not be evil at all. The voices are the people from the past. The survivors past. Dead people. They either appear as voices(Sayid), bores(Sawyer) or in living flesh(Jack). The french woman has for some reason also ben stranded on this chessboard between good and evil. It is a real island. They exist in our time, in our dimension, but with all these forces on the island, its bound to get a little weird. Everybody that comes to this island comes here for a reason. Everybody.

Well.....what do you think? It´s hard to find anything that speaks against it.....

Two, If it goes bad, there will be no way off the island.......The problem is, that there are dark forces in the world that want the baby for its own,

That brings up an interesting point: if there are dark forces who want the baby for their own, but there is no way off the island, how would the dark forces utilize the baby's powers?*

Hmm . . . this theory sounds a whole lot like that new Keanu Reeves movie 'Constantine,' doesn't it? Maybe I will have to go and watch the movie to do some more research. ;)

I don't think this is it though, because 'good' and 'evil' or 'God' and 'Satan' or whatever you want to call them seem a little too mystical for a show that is supposed to be based in science or pseudoscience. Or maybe I just hope this isn't it because I want it to be more complicated than another fight between the forces of good and evil

So do I my friend. I HOPE this isnt the answer.....cause it´s dull.......hugs?

So do I my friend. I HOPE this isnt the answer.....cause it´s dull.......hugs?



:laugh: Oh, I hope I didn't come off as too harsh there. I mean, the theory actually makes complete sense. I guess that's a bit of the problem . . . I want it to be more complicated.

Yeah... it does make sence and it is hard to find thngs that go against it but...... with all this figuring going on i want it to be really indepth!!! like you get it and you are like WOW! if that were the anwser wou would almose get it all at onece with just one anwser.. i want to get them little by little and have it be some big complicated problem that just turnes out like... OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes! I hope you´re right. And to be frank....I don´t think this is the real plot......it´s too easy somehow.
But.....it cannot just be scientific....

I love your summarization :) and it sounds like you had fun writing it and I had fun reading it!! (Although I too despirately want the big, bang, wildly unexpected, oh my gosh I can't believe I missed that!!!! ending.) I have always tried to look at this story backwards, all the way from the beginning, - If I was a writer how would I pitch this (very complex) story to a room full of TV Executives??? (Especially not knowing how long the series could/would run - a story that almost needs some built in wiggling room.) Summarizations like yours, whether completely wild or just really simple, help brainstorm through all the points and multi-layers of the show.

wouldn't satan be able to get off an island?

I agree with everything you said, craftydorothy. *

This theory made me think about just how much one baby can accomplish on one small island. *If there are Others and they want the baby to achieve some goal, that goal might not involve the island itself -- maybe they can get off the island. *

And lyle 21, I swear I was typing this up while you were posting.* :laugh:

i like this idea. maybe the island is the place for thee final showdown between good and evil, god and the devil. like satan chose the place and challenged god to a duel. and god said alright, and decided to fight with his creation, man. satan, having much contempt for the human race, believes he will defeat god's creatures with fear, fear of monsters, fear of bears, fear of themselves, fear of being on a desserted island, fear of death. maybe locke is really an angel (died in crash) and maybe this unborn baby is the giant x factor, very powerful yet born with a blank slate, tabula rasa. can these damaged people, some of them murderers, with all their petty problems borne of weakness and avarice somehow get it together enough to protect this child. when push comes to swat will these adults see this tiny baby as just another mouth to feed, a stone to stumble over or as a promise of new life, rebirth, a renaissance.

at first your idea seemed weird, but now i think it realy opened up a whole new way of looking at things. indeed, the point IS to remain on the island. god vs. satan demands it.

indeed, the point IS to remain on the island. god vs. satan demands it.

I think you might be right about this, Lyle21. This theory is interesting because it puts so much pressure on the individual emotional journeys of each character on the island, pressure on them to figure their own issues out.

I think Claire was kidnapped because the Others knew about the crazy power this unborn child possesses, which is why they wanted Claire so badly. But then why did they let her escape??

Final random thought, maybe ALL children on this island have the capacity to be really powerfully good or really powerfully bad... That would explain Walt's weird powers. Michael did end up his caregiver in a somewhat bizarre trick of fate. Maybe Michael, like Claire, is meant to raise his own child so that he will not be evil.

Good point.....very good point......but not scientific....

Final random thought, maybe ALL children on this island have the capacity to be really powerfully good or really powerfully bad... That would explain Walt's weird powers.* Michael did end up his caregiver in a somewhat bizarre trick of fate.* Maybe Michael, like Claire, is meant to raise his own child so that he will not be evil.


But Walt was special before he got to the island.

maybe the point isn't to keep claire but to make her more of a burden. to make her child more of a burden. wear down these people with fear and stress. maybe even offer something in exchange for the child and claire or just the child if claire dies. i really think ethan could have kept claire, but i think the point is for our survivors to give them up. i hear some main characters are supposed to die. maybe they will die protecting claire and baby.

oh god, i hope i just didn't "spoi" anything. i rarely read spoilers (wrong most of the time), but the whole "someone dies" has been a widely debated topic. maybe that someone was ethan. either way i'm sorry.

wouldn't satan be able to get off an island?

I'm intrigued by this...what if Satan couldn't get off the island?*
The island would serve as a portal.
The island would need some type of a door, or hatch that the average person couldn't figure out how to open.
The island would need to be shrouded in some way so the average ship, boat, or airplaine wouldn't detect it.
What better place to hide a portal to HELL than in paradise?

(It's been all over the board, Lyle, I doubt if there's anyone left who hasn't heard about it -- so don't feel bad.)

Good point.....very good point......but not scientific....

So going in the other, non-paranormal direction, what could be so important about this baby?* Some genetic specialness?*

And suppose the Others can come and go whenever they like; they aren't stranded there like the Lostaways -- maybe that's what happened to Alex, he/she/it isn't even on the island anymore.

Hey people! Post your thoughts!!!

alright, here's a thought. what if satan not only chose the place, but also the players. he chose jack and sawyer and jin and everyone else for god's team, trying to stack the deck in his favor. these people all seem to have some definite daddy issues. and who is the ultimate daddy?