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Flagg1982
02-26-2005, 01:14 PM
just crawled out of the basement to put in my opinion.

I've always thought Alex is a girl and considering the timing aspect of Danielle's isolation, I think Alex is a teenager. I also think that Alex is the one that rescued Claire from Ethan.

There were scratches on Ethan's face. They looked like a woman's fingernail marks to me. I doubt they were from Claire because she did not remember anything, hence was probably not fighting for her life at the point of rescue. Therefore, that leaves me two choices: Danielle and Alex. Because Danielle is obviously living in fear and reluctant to engage in communication with anyone, I doubt she would approach Ethan. Alex, however, might have a bone to pick with the others. And Alex might have just enough courage to be a hero.

It's just a gut feeling.

We have no idea if Alex was a toddler when she arrived on the island or if Danielle gave birth to her there, but I suspect she was probably a toddler. A pregnant woman on an expedition? Probably far-fetched. A woman on a scientific endeavor with her child? Probably more realistic. So I'm assuming Alex is around 17-18.

We don't know how long ago Danielle lost her "child" but I'm going to assume it was practically immediately upon arrival. Danielle's fear seems to stem from the sickness that overcame her party and the infection that was spread through their association with the others. This is when Robert was killed and I think Alex disappeared and it was almost immediate.

I'm thinking Alex lived a relatively safe existence until a certain point and I think at that point, probably puberty, she escaped. Alex has been running wild on the island for some time, learning to live on her own, co-existing with the animal life, perhaps even spying on her mother.

I don't know if I believe the island itself has special properties, but I do believe these children have some kind of connection and a natural affinity for the island itself. Alex may have something that makes her special, but it's her relationship with the world around her that seems important to me. I think Alex holds the key to whatever connects them all together. Claire's child would then become an important thing to her and one worth saving.



I think Alex does feel a compulsion to be near Danielle and it's possible she watches and studies her but may have no idea why. Danielle's own isolation would be a drawing factor but without dialogue Alex would not know there is a connection between them. If Alex ran from the others she would not know who she can trust and would be suspect of anyone else on the island. She may be reluctant to approach Danielle, given Danielle's odd and erratic behavior.

Yet I think Alex did help Claire. This was probably because she saw the immediate danger to Claire and recognized it as similar to her own reasons for escape.

I do think though that Alex has a curiosity about our castaways. She's probably been watching the entire time. She may have been the one that hit Sayid and I think it's possible she has already met one. Vincent seems to go off on his own quite a bit and for some reason I see them together. A friendly dog would certainly help her to gain acceptance into a tribe of scared and suspicious castaways and given Alex's natural living conditions, I think her first affinity and trust would probably be placed in an animal.

Of course all of this is assuming that Alex is a human being. Half of those I talk to think Alex is far less than human. But I'm going on a mother's instinct here. I can't accept that any woman in Danielle's position would so insistently question a stranger about the whereabouts of anything but a human being. When Danielle stated that "Alex was my child" I sensed an emotional void and I refuse to believe any woman would feel such yearning for anything other than her own offspring.

Kato
02-27-2005, 04:25 PM
I can't accept that any woman in Danielle's position would so insistently question a stranger about the whereabouts of anything but a human being.

That makes sense.* :)

I've always expected that we'll find out what happened to Alex when we find out what happens to Claire's baby (or what's already happened -- if something did).* But it may be a red herring on their part that Claire's baby mystery started right after Solitary -- it was a good way to suggest to us that Alex and Claire's fate is (or will be) related.*

I had a wild theory that Alex was Walt, but I can't remember anymore what convoluted reasoning led up to it, or how I got around the little minor detail that Walt is way too young.* *:laugh:

welshmuse
02-27-2005, 05:32 PM
Interesting theory Flagg--I like it. I do think it might be possible that Danielle gave birth on the island--after all, she might not have known she was pregnant when they began their expedition. I think they (the Others) took her baby away from her at birth--which is why Danielle used the term "child" rather than "son" or "daughter."

It is interesting that they chose a non-gender-specific name.

I do like the theory that Alex helped Claire escape. Ethan is incredibly strong, and I find it hard to believe that Claire could escape without someone's help. But, I don't think Claire's amnesia necessarily indicates that she didn't struggle to get away herself. Plus, we know she could use her fingernails as weapons, since she cut into her own skin in RBA.

I like the idea of Alex spying on Danielle. Or, maybe she's been looking for Danielle for some time and hasn't found her yet. I'm looking forward to the writers revisiting this storyline.

Destination L.A.X.
03-01-2005, 12:03 AM
I like this theory...very interesting. I like how Alex possibly rescued Claire.

Perhaps Danielle got pregnant with Alex after the expedition team was stranded on the island for awhile. Probably "let's do it 'cause there's nothing else to live for" one nighter with her lover. So Alex is probably 15...or younger.

In "Solitary", Danielle told Sayid that Alex was her son. Could the Others have changed Alex's gender from male to female? It's possible if they have the technology.

Carencey
03-01-2005, 12:28 AM
I think Danielle actually said Alex was her child.

I like the theory a lot, Flagg! I've also considered sort of a power struggle within the others coming into play, especially with Ethan's death...perhaps there is some sort of working toward a common goal there but somebody had problems with his methods...and after all, if Alex (male or female) knew how they came to be there, they could want to prevent the same fate for another.

Aurora10
03-01-2005, 12:48 AM
Woah, that was a very good theory. It's very logical!

The Unnamed Madman
03-01-2005, 03:18 AM
All this is very possible!! Nice thinking....but you forgot one thing: the writers.....you know how they can be......expect the impossible.

lunakasha
03-01-2005, 05:02 PM
In "Solitary", Danielle told Sayid that Alex was her son.* Could the Others have changed Alex's gender from male to female?* It's possible if they have the technology.

Danielle told Sayid that Alex was her "child".....she did not specify gender. (just rewatched Solitary today) ;)

Again, using the name "Alex" allows the possibility that the child could be male or female.

I also liked the theory mentioned here about the others having taken the child at birth, and since Danielle did not know the gender, she gave him/her a neutral name....

:) Luna

BurningStar4
03-01-2005, 05:09 PM
This is really a great theory, and I never thought of Alex when Ethan appeared with scratches and how Alex could be a girl who did that. Very, very interesting!

Flagg....you wouldn't happen to be Randal Flagg? lol *hopes you get that*

Spritle9
03-01-2005, 08:41 PM
I love this theory!

And the idea that Vincent has already interacted with Alex is also great! Maybe he ran off from Walt the last time in response to a telepathic distress call from Alex! To help her battle Ethan in order to save Claire.

If Vincent ever gets HIS own episode, perhaps we'll see Alex saving Claire (Vincent was missing then), spying on Mommy as well as previously seen castaway moments and living among the Polar bears.

Plus, it's a great way to introduce a new female character to the show. Since they're largely outnumbered by the dudes.

The Unnamed Madman
03-02-2005, 04:42 AM
Could the marks on Ethans cheek(???misspelled)???(that misspelled to?) To also misspelled??) be from Vincents claws???? Maybe HE rescued Claire.

tarf
03-02-2005, 12:55 PM
Could the marks on Ethans cheek(???misspelled)???(that misspelled to?) To also misspelled??) be from Vincents claws???? Maybe HE rescued Claire.


clawing is a feline thing (cats, lions, tigers)

dogs bite it's a canine thing (dogs, wolves etc), they don't "scratch" or claw
if Ethan had been bitten, Jack would probably have noticed and bring up the "Vincent ran into Ethan" part

the marks on Ethan's face were not "dog-ish", but rather "cat-ish" (hey guys, we've found Catwoman :D )

porkinz
03-02-2005, 03:40 PM
Of course those scratches could have come from a male as well hard to keep your nails groomed on a deserted island. Like the theory but ALEX doesn't need to be a girl. There was a sense of despair in Danielle's voice when speaking of Alex as if she knew her child was still alive but didn't know where it was. Yes, I like this one nice theory.

Flagg1982
05-21-2005, 08:26 AM
What about them scratches on Danielle's arm, ?

Maybe Danielle knows where Alex"andra" is.

UltimateNinja
05-21-2005, 09:46 AM
I completely disagree

Assuming the others took Alex, then the others raised her. She would have no true concept of morals and values, only what has been taught by the others. Why would she attack Ethan? Why would she help Claire? If Ethan is part of the "others" then he would know Alex, would have been part of the group that raised her perhaps.

I don't think you could possibly assume that Alex is a normal teenager with morals and values like everyone else.

Flagg1982
05-21-2005, 01:28 PM
Well, we have no idead what the others might be.

Maybe some of them are good.

"Why would she attack Ethan? Why would she help Claire?"

Dude, I don't know.

But someone must havedone it.
Unless it's a big set up.

thelizinator297
05-21-2005, 08:10 PM
I've always expected that we'll find out what happened to Alex when we find out what happens to Claire's baby (or what's already happened -- if something did).* But it may be a red herring on their part that Claire's baby mystery started right after Solitary -- it was a good way to suggest to us that Alex and Claire's fate is (or will be) related.*



I thought so too, and we found out in Exodus that when Danielle first got to the island she was 7 months pregnant. I had always guessed that Alex was a small child because of Claire. Claire was pregnant, so I figured that maybe whatever Ethan and/or the others do has something to do with pregnant women and babies. I'm not exactly sure what though.

LostBrerMatt
05-21-2005, 08:23 PM
I think it's a great theory that Danielle's child is still alive and a teen on the island.