View Full Version : Where did Arzt get those jars?
Tiny Time Machine 03-29-2007, 07:48 PM I'll tell you!!
Somebody was travelling on the trans-pacific Oceanic flight 815 with about fifty glass jars! And these were no ordinary glass jars either! These are made of, like, mega-strength glass that can withstand the impact of a widebody jet smashing into the ground! Not only that, either, but these mega-strength glass jars - wait for it - have a high-tech lid that allows air to enter the jar but does not allow pheromones to escape it! Just perfect for, oh I don't know, poisonous arachnid storage and the like!
I know, I know, hard to believe. But rest assured, season four is going to be a BIG season for us jar enthusiasts! And I'll leave you with this delicious hint: Jarma rhymes with Dharma. Interesting, no? ;) Watch, wait and see!
Ellis 03-29-2007, 07:54 PM I hate so much of what you choose to be.
Miss Egg 03-29-2007, 07:54 PM Hahhahaha! Oh man, that was fantastic, Tiny!
They can't say that he got them from the hatch because he was blown up before Jack Kate and Locke even got in there!
How the heck are they gonna explain that one I wonder. Good point.
flyer61055 03-29-2007, 07:58 PM I'll tell you!!
Somebody was travelling on the trans-pacific Oceanic flight 815 with about fifty glass jars! And these were no ordinary glass jars either! These are made of, like, mega-strength glass that can withstand the impact of a widebody jet smashing into the ground! Not only that, either, but these mega-strength glass jars - wait for it - have a high-tech lid that allows air to enter the jar but does not allow pheromones to escape it! Just perfect for, oh I don't know, poisonous arachnid storage and the like!
I know, I know, hard to believe. But rest assured, season four is going to be a BIG season for us jar enthusiasts! And I'll leave you with this delicious hint: Jarma rhymes with Dharma. Interesting, no? ;) Watch, wait and see!
Ha! That's the first thing I thought when I saw the scene. Where'd he get the jars? But then I decided that since he was some kind of teacher maybe he was some kind of science trip and was collecting specimens in Australia and the jars were in his luggage.
GodBlessTexas 03-29-2007, 08:03 PM They were plastic. The one the spider was in looked like a peanut butt BUTTER jar. :D
DonWidmore 03-29-2007, 09:26 PM without getting too far with the Peanut Butt concept, something I'd rather not touch...
the jars were smokey
Don
Tiny Time Machine 03-29-2007, 09:28 PM without getting too far with the Peanut Butt concept, something I'd rather not touch...
the jars were smokey
Don
Mhm.
And Smokey's real name "Cerberus" sounds an awful lot like "serve us up...some food using those jars"!
Just sayin... (Watch, wait and see!) ;)
MadWatch 03-30-2007, 11:56 AM How the heck are they gonna explain that one I wonder. Good point.
Simple. Just like how they explain most things: They won't. :undecide:
thedaveeyres 03-30-2007, 11:59 AM I hate so much of what you choose to be.
:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
That cracked me up.
polusmaximus 03-30-2007, 12:17 PM They appeared after Desmond turned the key?
Colonel Sanders 03-30-2007, 12:29 PM lol...I love this thread!
I fear that the jars may have been contaminated......note that the date mentioned for the recall was extended to PB made from October 2004! :eek2:
http://www.myeyewitnessnews.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=dac08bac-e590-41ce-989e-70b55c340176
E-gad!!!
;)
SithLordDarth 03-30-2007, 12:29 PM So right, man! But what I'm wondering is how on earth did he get the spider into the jar in the first place?
What? He just happened to come across the female and said, "Oh, look, a Medusa...I betcha I can catch that thing without getting whoopassed by the surrounding males!"
Billy Shears 03-30-2007, 01:05 PM The one thing in my head was how much he acted like the Professor on Gillgan's Island, and how much Nikki acted like Ginger trying to sweet talk him into something.
lostfan80 03-30-2007, 02:06 PM This has to be the funniest thread on the board right now. :laughing:
velton 03-30-2007, 02:11 PM Tiny----that what amazing!!!! And it's also a good question? glass jars surviving a massive plane crash!!! Well....i guess it could happen. Anything is possible....if you believe.
WestsideP-Stone 03-30-2007, 02:17 PM I hate so much of what you choose to be.
hands down, quote of the year
P.Stone
LovesLaboursLost 03-30-2007, 02:25 PM The one thing in my head was how much he acted like the Professor on Gillgan's Island, and how much Nikki acted like Ginger trying to sweet talk him into something.
That's it! That's what I was trying to remember!
SithLordDarth 03-30-2007, 02:45 PM Thus if Arzt is the professor and Nikki is Ginger then Hurley must be The Skipper with Sawyer being Gilligan!
I see clearly now!!
HeadFirstForHalos 03-30-2007, 02:50 PM A jar seller was on the plane, oh and the impact of the crash didn't break them. :rolleyes:
EllsBells1960 03-30-2007, 02:53 PM I thought there was a jar tree to go with the blue tarp bush.
applecrush 03-30-2007, 07:55 PM Thus if Arzt is the professor and Nikki is Ginger then Hurley must be The Skipper with Sawyer being Gilligan!
I see clearly now!!
i'll give you hurley as skipper, but i think charlie should be gilligan just for the simple fact that he's always willing to help (i.e. building a church with eko) but sometimes is misunderstood and messes things up (i.e. wanting to baptize aaron and having others think he wants to drown aaron).
sjb121590 03-30-2007, 08:11 PM I bet he found the "Jam Hatch" and just emptied out all of the contents...
MPmom 03-30-2007, 08:30 PM It has to be one of two things.
Either professor Arzt melted sand and made his own glass jars
or
He strongly desired them and the box provided them.
colin72 03-30-2007, 09:01 PM I'll tell you!!
Somebody was travelling on the trans-pacific Oceanic flight 815 with about fifty glass jars! And these were no ordinary glass jars either! These are made of, like, mega-strength glass that can withstand the impact of a widebody jet smashing into the ground! Not only that, either, but these mega-strength glass jars - wait for it - have a high-tech lid that allows air to enter the jar but does not allow pheromones to escape it! Just perfect for, oh I don't know, poisonous arachnid storage and the like!
I know, I know, hard to believe. But rest assured, season four is going to be a BIG season for us jar enthusiasts! And I'll leave you with this delicious hint: Jarma rhymes with Dharma. Interesting, no? ;) Watch, wait and see!
Explanations for the jars...
a) It will all be revealed in a season 5 jar flashback
b) The jars are the smoke monster
c) It's the sickness... there are no jars
d) Ben devised an unnecessarily elaborate plan to plant the jars on the beach for Artz
e) Stop watching or watch CSI:NY where they wrap up their jar mysteries every week
Noeland 03-30-2007, 09:55 PM I don't know if I should bother, but Desmond has nuts and bolts and computer bits and pieces in glass jars in the hatch, so there is a very real possibility that those are Dharma jars from the hatch. I don't remember the time line of when she saw Artz exactly, but I'm pretty sure it was after they'd found the hatch, but I haven't rewatched the episode.
That said, I don't even care, even if it was grossly inaccruate in every way, I still thoguht it was a funny scene.:harhar1:
I have to admit that the fact that he had jars didn't bother me in the least. The swan hatch produced endless tools, blankets, tarps and the like. It was one stop shopping down there.
I also feel I need to say this: The show is not real folks, and in a show full of not real stuff, guys get jars to put spiders in, and if you know the science and behaivor of insects and animals, you can catch them quite easily, even in REAL life. Just watch the discovery channel for a few hours of you don't believe me, guys and girls catch all manner of deadly arachnid on that channel. :)
Here I thought people would be complaining about Hurley van from a few weeks back, but nope, it's the jars they all hate . . .
:shrug:
coupons 03-30-2007, 10:01 PM Artz 'disappeared' when they were getting the dynamite to blow open the hatch.
How about Artz as Jacob he likes collecting species why not people
Lostie108 03-30-2007, 10:02 PM I just re-watched the episode and it appears that most of the jars were old water bottles and plastic containers. :)
ireneadler 03-30-2007, 10:23 PM Ballon? Small plane? Ship? Next we'll see Jar Jar Binks from a UFO crash! Those jars only go to prove that Kate is indeed an Other.
LostPack 03-30-2007, 10:30 PM I thought there was a jar tree to go with the blue tarp bush.
We all were looking the other way when a pallet dropped from the sky with blue tarps, specimen jars and shiny new shovels to dig graves with. Actually... I heard from a source that sometime in Season 5 or 6, we'll meet another of the survivors that was instrumental in recreating things into other things.
andy_candy 03-31-2007, 02:04 AM Simple. Just like how they explain most things: They won't. :undecide:
Exactly like how Paulo got outof the hatch when Ben left as Ben was overheard asking Juliet about the open door & so would close it after he left. Accept it guys: bad writing. Dont try to find hidden meaning & make theories.
CountChocula 03-31-2007, 02:06 AM Would've made more sense if he put them in say, wine bottles or liquor bottles, instead of jelly jars.
Having said that, we have no proof yet that Artz was actually on the plane.........
It is pretty ridiculous, I'd have to agree...Jars surviving a plane crash. But it could be easily explained away...
We saw Nikki & Paulo "accidently" find the Pearl hatch in their travels.
We've seen Hurley discover a VW Van in the jungle.
I guess it's possible Arnzt stumbled across a wayward Dharma food drop pallette somewhere out in the jungle one day...just sitting there abandoned...and he saw the Dharma jars (their labels worn off after 20 years of sitting outside in the elements) full of expired jelly or peanut butter...and thought to himself..."Cool...I can use these to catch spiders and bugs". He emptied their contents and washed them out...Bingo...
Jars on the island.
Not a huge stretch. We wouldn't know what all the red shirts have been up to as we've been focused on the main group of Losties...which I think is something "Expose" was trying to give us a glimpse into. It's also highly likely a food drop got lost due to bad weather or an inexperienced pilot.
I have a hard time imagining Dr. Arnzt was just sitting on his thumbs at the beach all day...I think he would have taken to exploring the island, much as Locke did.
btw...Hurley can't be the Skipper...Afterall...he's a millionaire!!
PennyKnows 04-01-2007, 08:26 AM I guess it's possible Arnzt stumbled across a wayward Dharma food drop pallette somewhere out in the jungle one day...just sitting there abandoned...and he saw the Dharma jars (their labels worn off after 20 years of sitting outside in the elements) full of expired jelly or peanut butter...and thought to himself..."Cool...I can use these to catch spiders and bugs". He emptied their contents and washed them out...Bingo...
I have a hard time imagining Dr. Arnzt was just sitting on his thumbs at the beach all day...I think he would have taken to exploring the island, much as Locke did.
But wasn't Arzt afraid of the Black Rock expedition, the sound made by Smokey, the Whispers that were heard? He came across as a scaredy cat in S1, then we see in "Expose" he has gone off specimen collecting with mysterious jars that suddenly appeared? The character is not consistent there - he didn't seem very adventurous on the Black Rock mission.
Holmes 04-01-2007, 08:38 AM Also, were there not live butterflies / moths in the jars weeks after Arzt had died ? They'd be dead, surely ?
EmptyJar 04-01-2007, 10:39 AM They wouldn't be dead if nikki or someone else had helped take care of them. Also, loose jars would definitely break, but plastic (or even glass) jars packed up in a box (a real one, you know, cardboard and all) with insulation may survive (48 or so people did, along with lots of luggage, so this is not really a stretch). As for how it got there, hmm maybe Arnzt himself? The man seemed to be an entomology enthusiast (pretty good one too if he was actually able to recognize NEW species), so I bet part of his Aussie trip included some collecting in, yep you guessed it, JARS :)
Or maybe lost island did get word of the PB recall and Des threw a bunch outside the hatch in frustration : P
dangerousdirk 04-01-2007, 10:48 AM tiny, thanks a lot, while reading your post, I laughed and shot pop out of my nose on my new keyboard. If only my keyboard was in one of these, how you say, glass jars?
klughs 04-01-2007, 11:14 AM Not only that, either, but these mega-strength glass jars - wait for it - have a high-tech lid that allows air to enter the jar but does not allow pheromones to escape it! Just perfect for, oh I don't know, poisonous arachnid storage and the like!
I thought there was a jar tree to go with the blue tarp bush.
oh my day was just made happy from reading this thread:74happy:
:ntworthy:
Fierro 04-01-2007, 12:39 PM So right, man! But what I'm wondering is how on earth did he get the spider into the jar in the first place?
What? He just happened to come across the female and said, "Oh, look, a Medusa...I betcha I can catch that thing without getting whoopassed by the surrounding males!"
you've never caught a spider before???
But wasn't Arzt afraid of the Black Rock expedition, the sound made by Smokey, the Whispers that were heard? He came across as a scaredy cat in S1, then we see in "Expose" he has gone off specimen collecting with mysterious jars that suddenly appeared? The character is not consistent there - he didn't seem very adventurous on the Black Rock mission.
Arzt volnteered to go, in Exodus I:
JACK: Look, I know you're all scared. And I know everybody has a lot of questions. All I can tell you right now is that we do have a plan. We've got to go into the jungle to get some supplies. We'll be back in a few hours. In the meantime, do everything you can to help Michael get that raft in the water. And after that, go to the caves. We'll be back as soon as we can. I promise.
ARZT: Hey, nice speech, plan's a little flawed, but hey, nobody's perfect.
JACK: What plan?
ARZT: Yeah, your plan. You're going to go into the jungle and get some dynamite and blow open a hatch and then you're going to hide everyone inside. You want to keep a secret don't tell the fat guy.
JACK: What do want Arzt?
ARZT: God knows how long that dynamite has been out there. And from what I can tell Madam Nutso doesn't seem too concerned with how to handle it. So, unless you want to blow up, I'm coming with you.
JACK: Okay. Grab some water bottles; we're leaving in half an hour.
It wasn't until Danielle started talking about what happened to her team that he started acting scared:
DANIELLE: Le Territoire Fonce.
JACK: The Dark Territory.
DANIELLE: The Black Rock is not far. This is where it all began -- where my team got infected -- where Montan lost his arm. We must move quickly.
ARZT: You know what? I'm going back.
JACK: Hey, I thought you wanted to help.
ARZT:Yeah, I wanted to help -- that was before Montan lost his fricking arm.
JACK: Well, what about the dynamite?
ARZT: Be very careful with it.
Later in the eppy, the monster chases Arzt like a mad man back towards the main group...but Smokey left the group alone. So, Arzt figured he'd rather stay with the group, rather than trying to risk walking back to the beach all alone.
But I don't think you could call anyone who was willing to transport unstable dynamite around a "scardey cat".
Wait a minute...what if Arzt was over in Austrailia to capture rare indigenous poisionous snakes and bring them back to the states in jars??? I think I figuired out why 815 crashed....SNAKES ON A PLANE!!! It was Arzt's fault!!
gusthepolarbear 04-01-2007, 06:11 PM ^^^that solves it ator, if only samuel L jackson was on the plane
my favourite one was the tennis ball container that charlie was playin around with
heppamies 04-02-2007, 07:38 AM pottery barn
wanders01 04-02-2007, 07:52 AM I think we can all assume that Artz found the Dharma recycling dump. After all waste not want not...........we are on an island.:biggrin: and who knows when the next drop will be..:hypocrit:
abbybaby 04-02-2007, 10:27 AM pottery barn
No, Bed, Bath and Beyond:biggrin:
No, Bed, Bath and Beyond:biggrin:
No...Beds, Bath and WAY Beyond!!
pibbsneaker 04-02-2007, 10:32 PM He made them when they were burning all the bodies in the fuselage.
LouisianaLostie 04-03-2007, 12:31 AM btw...Hurley can't be the Skipper...Afterall...he's a millionaire!!
So does that make him Thurston Howell, III? :)
So does that make him Thurston Howell, III? :)
Yep...and Libby Mrs. Howell...well...dead Mrs. Howell!
PapaThor 04-03-2007, 03:46 AM just think... if arzt had lived long enough he
could have made a radio out of palm leaves,
some bamboo and two coconuts... just
like the professor on gillian's island.
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one more point towards getting out of baggage.
Occono 04-03-2007, 10:46 AM I'm surprised they didn't just think to use the empty Oceanic Airlines water bottles.
redmaria 04-06-2007, 05:18 PM not only the greatest and most sensible question for this epi,but also the funniest!jarhead Arzt
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