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harpy
04-05-2007, 01:56 PM
I don't know if this was something that has been seen before in other episodes, but when Smokie was shown by the fence there were two of them that merged together into super smokie, and then when it left they split off again and went in different directions.

PapaThor
04-05-2007, 03:36 PM
i think smokie has the ability to split and re-join again.

it looks like one entity... that's pissed off really bad.

John_is_Lost
04-05-2007, 03:38 PM
I think it split into more than 2

Eight
04-05-2007, 03:42 PM
I agree that smokey splits apart. In fact I believe that the smaller smokey is what manifested as spiders and bit Nikki.

Kathleen1
04-06-2007, 01:10 PM
I agree that smokey splits apart. In fact I believe that the smaller smokey is what manifested as spiders and bit Nikki.


The Smoke Monster did not kill Nikki did, being burried alive is what killed her when. Because when Somkey wants you dead he will kill you, seeing that Nikki was alive at the very end of the eppy made me realize that it was just spiders

sttct
04-06-2007, 01:13 PM
I thought the spiders were more of another one of Dhama's experiments. Just like the Polar Bears that live in Island Climates, the hurley bird etc.

On topic - It did split apart, but I guess that just makes it scarier because now we know it can be two things at once.

Billy Shears
04-06-2007, 01:19 PM
i think smokie has the ability to split and re-join again.

it looks like one entity... that's pissed off really bad.

Yeah. If you look close he merged from three parts to one, then back to two. So that makes him one entity I think.

Fierro
04-06-2007, 01:26 PM
I don't know if this was something that has been seen before in other episodes, but when Smokie was shown by the fence there were two of them that merged together into super smokie, and then when it left they split off again and went in different directions.
Actually three smokies right after the tree was uproot violently. Cerberus=3-headed dog...But only ONE smokie retreated.

LostFanLaura
04-06-2007, 01:27 PM
I agree, he can split and then come back together. Reminds me of when I was a kid and we would break a thermometer just to play with the mercury. It could separate into smaller globs or join together into one big blob.

Laurieg
04-06-2007, 01:30 PM
I agree, he can split and then come back together. Reminds me of when I was a kid and we would break a thermometer just to play with the mercury. It could separate into smaller globs or join together into one big blob.

Totally off topic, but Ahhhhh to the good old days when were aloud to play with stuff that could kill us:rolleyes:

LostCandy
04-06-2007, 01:43 PM
We should have all known that Smokie can split apart after it appeared to Eko in the form of the 3 guys from his past.

Lionhearted
04-06-2007, 02:23 PM
What.

Anyway, if you haven't seen it already, take a look at this:
http://bp0.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/RhSXRnhEfYI/AAAAAAAADYE/MP7decwnkrU/s1600-h/1_05_04_07_12_33_46.jpg

tiewashere
04-06-2007, 02:28 PM
I saw 3 pieces of smokie

brun3tt3h3ad
04-06-2007, 03:50 PM
What.

Anyway, if you haven't seen it already, take a look at this:
http://bp0.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/RhSXRnhEfYI/AAAAAAAADYE/MP7decwnkrU/s1600-h/1_05_04_07_12_33_46.jpg

Thanks for sharing that! :o
I completely missed it while watching the episode.

electric shepherd
04-06-2007, 04:08 PM
so i presume that smokie can't cross the sonic fence...
my first thought was why didn't it go over, but juliet had never seen it before, judging by her reaction. so it seems likely that it's always resided outside the fence.

MadKowDZ
04-06-2007, 05:12 PM
so i presume that smokie can't cross the sonic fence...
my first thought was why didn't it go over, but juliet had never seen it before, judging by her reaction. so it seems likely that it's always resided outside the fence.
I was thinking that Smokey actually felt pain. Reminds me of a wild animal touching a low voltage electrfied fence; it wouldn't think to go over it the 1st couple of times...

1dimpleonly
04-06-2007, 06:04 PM
I've been thinking that Smokie is two parts, but maybe he is three,...

1. Birds - they always appear just before the monster. They screech like birds, fly over head, and then we see, and hear Smokie coming.

2. Monster - the mechanical, tear up the jungle, part of the monster.

3. Smoke - self-explanatory.

It's just a guess, that's all.

Mr. Find
04-08-2007, 11:50 AM
There are three smokies.

Three entities coming together to cause mayhem is commonly known in latin as molari encurli. So I am goning to use that phrase as my starting point for exhaustive research and get back to you guys later with what I find.

faaaaace
04-09-2007, 09:28 PM
probably mentioned before, but it looked like two or three smoke columns shooting out of a CERBERUS VENT, forming the single cloud.

Khemic81
04-10-2007, 12:36 AM
Didn't Rousseau call Smokey a "security" system or something? Cerberus was the guardian to the gates of hades. No living person could enter, and no dead could leave. The most common way to defeat Cerberus was music to lull it to sleep.

iFight4Russia
04-10-2007, 04:20 AM
A theory I've come up with, I'm probably not the first one, but what the hell.
I've come to think that the monster has three forms, like the three heads of Cerberus. There's one that's just a scout, it floats around making a wispy chattering sound and usually doesn't come after the losties. After we see this one, it is usually followed a few minutes after by one (or both) of the other clouds. The second one is the brute force cloud that killed eko and uproots trees, it makes the dinosaur/elephant sound. A third espionage cloud, i believe, is the shape shifter and information gatherer, the one who flashes Juliet. I think the chain noise was the others controlling the monster and telling it to retrieve Locke. when this was unsuccessful, Ben infiltrated the lost camp as Henry Gale.

I haven't decided what it is, how the others control it, or much of anything else about it, but thats what I think. As always, anyone is welcome to add on, or point out some flaws in the theory.
100%
Heres some intresting stuff from the wikipedia page for Ceberus:

Cerberus guarded the gate to Hades and ensured that spirits of the dead could enter, but none could exit (additionally no living person was to come into Hades).
Sorta parallels how there are some sort of conditions to come or go from the island. Is Smokey what stops people from leaving? Can it be you can only get back to the island in a near death situation? It would explain why everyone "crashes" onto the island. It also might explain why Desmond has gone back and forth to and from the island, every time he has come near death.