Guys!!!
I thought it would be good for us to engage in a little much needed letting off of steam,and play astrologists here!!!Thats what Claire d do,no doubt about that!So we know that Jack trusts Juliet and enforces her on the other Losties by making her go with them back to the beach site!We also figured by Sayids *awesome* and playful stare,that ''hes not buying this,man!are you kidding him?shes gotten her spell all over you,doc!''Ok ,guys its time to slap aside all Stephen Hawking weve been reading the last couple months,rock out on some Hawkwind early stuff(i always thought these two were related!!!:)) and try to predict the future!we know we can




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Ps i went for number 1.I really think that once again he ll be the only one finding the mole way before tha others even suspect so


oh wait!!!!no option 3!!!!!!wtf????talk about lost time

I voted for the 4th one because I still contend that Sayid's look at the end has nothing to do with Juliet, but that he's worried about what's going on with Jack and how to approach it. Anyone notice Jack didn't even question the wound on Sayid's arm? He's usually all over something like that, looking at it, checking to see if it's dressed properly or at least he used to be. I doubt Sayid would run around disrespecting Jack, but would come up with a clever way to find out what he needs to know.

I voted for the 4th one because I still contend that Sayid's look at the end has nothing to do with Juliet, but that he's worried about what's going on with Jack and how to approach it. Anyone notice Jack didn't even question the wound on Sayid's arm? He's usually all over something like that, looking at it, checking to see if it's dressed properly or at least he used to be. I doubt Sayid would run around disrespecting Jack, but would come up with a clever way to find out what he needs to know.

Thats A tre-cool observation ,brutha!!!He didnt INDEED ask him where he got hurt,and instead he seemed all jerked up for Juliet and her whereabouts!We know there's something wrong with him its already TPTB confirmed that By the end of season 3 were gonna find something about Jack that well be talking about all summer long!!!!:eek1:
And i agree with you,Sayids look at the end,wasnt necesserily aimed for Juliet,but id say,both of them at once!He expected Jack to be more level headed as he s always been.Sayid knows Jack is commited and loyal,and he was really genuinely shocked by his attitude and trust fall on Juliets lap!Well,i also agree hell find a discreet way to get whats his,and gather all the info needed,but as i ve said before,nothing wrong about a good well shined pair of pliers,eh?:bigrinan:

Sayid is no one's fool when it comes to spies and infiltrators. He spoke his thoughts to Jack and when they were rejected he kept his own counsel. I think he will spend the trip back time deciding how best to deal with his "gut reaction" He's not going to go up against Jack without more to go on. Then again he may be thinking that Jack has a "master plan" and he is biding time to let it come out. But he will be watching. If in fact Jack is up to "no good" it could be bad for Sayid in that he could end up dead before revealing anything about Jack to the other Losties, I sure hope not.

''Ok ,guys its time to slap aside all Stephen Hawking weve been reading the last couple months,rock out on some Hawkwind early stuff(i always thought these two were related!!!:))

You mean they're not??? :eek2:

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I went for option 1 - wishful thinking, I know, because I don't think that Jack will give Sayid the opportunity to find out the truth. I think Sayid will have to be far more subtle and clever to find out what's going on.

He'll do what he normally does: start nicely, get nasty, then reach for the jump leads.

I'm looking forward to seeing exactly how Sayid will deal with the Juliet issue. I have faith that Sayid wont let us down, he will get to the truth!

You mean they're not??? :eek2:

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I went for option 1 - wishful thinking, I know, because I don't think that Jack will give Sayid the opportunity to find out the truth. I think Sayid will have to be far more subtle and clever to find out what's going on.


see???I KNEW IT!rumor has it theres this whimsical haunting E.p where Hawking is reciting time travel mumbo jumbo tapping his button ,while Lemmy faints dead!!!Its called Black Hole Jam or sth!!!man,i knew it was real!

I voted option 4. I think that Sayid won't do anything against Jack until he has more information. Sayid is a logical person, going back to the beach and blabbing to everyone how Jack has gone crazy will not be logical. Jack is the hero, all that Sayid will accomplish by doing that is alienating himself. He will keep quiet, observe everything, inform Kate of any suspicions that he has, and act accordingly. Remember the way he handled the Michael situation? Quiet confidence is Sayid's style.

However, I do think that he will not trust Juliet for a long time and I look forward to seeing him question her.

I voted for something else. I think Sayid will keep a close eye on Jack, I don't think he'll go screaming to all of the survivors to watch him! That's not his style. Sayid has been right every time. He has great insticts. My feeling though is that Jack hasn't been comprimised in anyway. Sayid definitely will not trust Juliet, and with good reason, none of them should be trusted. EVER.

It will interesting to see if Juliet can get Sayid to trust her or at least underdstand her.
Sayid has done some pretty bad stuff in the past and is more than capable of doing it again if he feels he has no other options, just like Juliet.

I agree, Sayid will never trust Juliet. But - I'm not all that sure Jack does either.

Do we know yet what Jack is asking people to trust her about? If it's a medical decision about the health of one of the Losties, and Jack is deferring to a medical colleagues judgment, why shouldn't everyone else?

I agree, Sayid will never trust Juliet. But - I'm not all that sure Jack does either.

poor Jack! i think hes fallen for her,needing something to cling onto!I hope you re right!but unfortunately,thats really unlikely i guess!:frown:
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Do we know yet what Jack is asking people to trust her about? If it's a medical decision about the health of one of the Losties, and Jack is deferring to a medical colleagues judgment, why shouldn't everyone else?

we know nothing yet!i personally dont watch the spoilers!yeah,ive heard that there must be something medical going on,but not that we re aware of!And,that doesnt lessen the risk i guess if shes one of the others,and a mole!

I think that there is a chance that the Losties will be able to trust Juliet at some point. Of course, it is all contigent on whether she is there because she truly was elft behind and has no option other than throwing her weight behind the Losties, or if she is playing some game with the Losties.

Just for arguments sake, I am going to say that she is telling the truth and recognizes the Losties as her only option. I am not sure that I agree with this, but it is easier to predict possible outcomes if we assume that she is now one of the Losties.

I think that most of the Losties will welcome her. The A-Team is where her troubles will lie. Jack seems to trust her and care about her. Kate does not trust her now, but I think that last week's episode showed interesting potential between the two women. They are a lot alike, in some ways, and that will cause friction. From that friction, I believe that respect will grow. They may not ever braid each other's hair and share make-up tips, but I think that they will prove an interesting duo. Sawyer is the wildcard. Because he knows that Ben was conning him, Sawyer may believe that Juliet is in on it. Again, for argument's sake, I am going to assume that Juliet is not playing the Losties. I think that the person that will eventually turn Sawyer is Kate.

Sayid will the Lostie with the most influence on everyone but J/K/S in terms of their opinions of Juliet. People trust him and value his opinion.

So the docs gone all Stockholme syndrome over a few grilled cheese sandwiches and he defends Juliette ? Seems like it would be wise to keep an eye on both of them of course but if she is intending on being a mole that would mean the Trial, the branding and her being left behind were all a setup. And Ben thought of all this with a big hole in his back.

I don't think Sayid will be able to torture a women though, not after the incident in Paris therefore I think the best strategy for would be to lead them into a trap.

PS why can't I vote ?

I don't think Sayid will be able to torture a women though, not after the incident in Paris therefore I think the best strategy for would be to lead them into a trap.

PS why can't I vote ?

Forgot about that. Ok, so he won't physically torture her, but I am sure he was trained in pyschological warfare. He can tell if people are lying just by observing them, and so far he has been right about everyone he thought was lying, Ben, Michael, Mickhail. He will be able to break her down using just his mind.

I have no idea why you can't vote.

So the docs gone all Stockholme syndrome over a few grilled cheese sandwiches and he defends Juliette ? Seems like it would be wise to keep an eye on both of them of course but if she is intending on being a mole that would mean the Trial, the branding and her being left behind were all a setup. And Ben thought of all this with a big hole in his back.

I don't think Sayid will be able to torture a women though, not after the incident in Paris therefore I think the best strategy for would be to lead them into a trap.

PS why can't I vote ?

I like you!!!!and i totally agree with everything you said!ahahahahah!!!this helsinki-stockholme thingy everytime brings in mind Die Hard 1!Yippie ki yay ,erm...others!;)
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ps i dont know why yo ucannot vote:sadwave:Maybe cos you said it all so eloquently?



Just for arguments sake, I am going to say that she is telling the truth and recognizes the Losties as her only option. I am not sure that I agree with this, but it is easier to predict possible outcomes if we assume that she is now one of the Losties.

I think that most of the Losties will welcome her. The A-Team is where her troubles will lie. Jack seems to trust her and care about her. Kate does not trust her now, but I think that last week's episode showed interesting potential between the two women. They are a lot alike, in some ways, and that will cause friction. From that friction, I believe that respect will grow. They may not ever braid each other's hair and share make-up tips, but I think that they will prove an interesting duo. Sawyer is the wildcard. Because he knows that Ben was conning him, Sawyer may believe that Juliet is in on it. Again, for argument's sake, I am going to assume that Juliet is not playing the Losties. I think that the person that will eventually turn Sawyer is Kate.

Sayid will the Lostie with the most influence on everyone but J/K/S in terms of their opinions of Juliet. People trust him and value his opinion.
Just for arguments sake eh?i like that!!!:)
And to comment on something you said,brotha,Sawyer wont trust Jules,not a chance!In my opinion Sawyer is like a grade school kid.His immature psyche,his dead on hilarious jokes,his instincts first of everything.So just like a kid wouldnt like a ''bad'' lady,and figure her from a thousand miles,Sawyer s gonna know theres something wrong from the very get go!

He can tell if people are lying just by observing them, and so far he has been right about everyone he thought was lying, Ben, Michael, Mickhail.


He was wrong about Sawyer.

I like you!!!!

Thanks mate I like you :biggrin:


And to comment on something you said,brotha,Sawyer wont trust Jules,not a chance!In my opinion Sawyer is like a grade school kid.His immature psyche,his dead on hilarious jokes,his instincts first of everything.So just like a kid wouldnt like a ''bad'' lady,and figure her from a thousand miles,Sawyer s gonna know theres something wrong from the very get go!

All very true but she is strong minded and I think Sawyer might like that :kiss:. Plus she has memorised the dossiers on all the Losties so I wonder if she may hatch a plot to use this knowledge seduce Sawyer.

He was wrong about Sawyer.
Oh,man ,was he!It was one of the most disturbing scenes in Lost!you just wanted to smash the screen ..yell at him to leave him alone!!But that was waaay back,when they used to blame one another.It was different then,wasnt it?Talking about figuring the ''enemy'' out,hes always dead on!

He was wrong about Sawyer.

:redface: aww. man totally forgot about that. Well 3 out of 4 aint too shabby, right?

But that was waaay back,when they used to blame one another.It was different then,wasnt it?Talking about figuring the ''enemy'' out,hes always dead on!


Not really so different. They still blame one another quickly and had no problem suspecting Sawyer might've been involved in Nikki's death. Sayid is who he is and to cast suspicion first and apologize later if necessary is his M.O. He's a trained soldier that has endured horrors and been forced to do things so horrific that he is still as decent a human-being as he is should be considered the sign of very strong heart, mind and soul. He may be right or wrong about Juliet, but in Sayid's mind it is always better to err on the side of caution where in Jack's mind it always better to go by the innocent until proven guilty theory. That is why they make a good team. :smile:

I thought it would be good for us to engage in a little much needed letting off of steam,and play astrologists here!!!Thats what Claire d do,no doubt about that!So we know that Jack trusts Juliet and enforces her on the other Losties by making her go with them back to the beach site!We also figured by Sayids *awesome* and playful stare,that ''hes not buying this,man!are you kidding him?shes gotten her spell all over you,doc!''Ok ,guys its time to slap aside all Stephen Hawking weve been reading the last couple months,rock out on some Hawkwind early stuff(i always thought these two were related!!!:)) and try to predict the future!we know we can




Yea, Jack didnt seem interested in that wound on Sayid's arm too. Jack seems off to me, and for good reason. The man just thought that he was getting to go home, only to have the people he told not to come looking for him show up with his nemesis(Locke, and, yes, he is Jack's nemesis) who destroys his chances for being able to leave.

Thanks mate I like you :biggrin:



All very true but she is strong minded and I think Sawyer might like that :kiss:. Plus she has memorised the dossiers on all the Losties so I wonder if she may hatch a plot to use this knowledge seduce Sawyer.
Youre right again!!!:bowdown:My only objection concerns the Sawyer thing!She may have helped him escape and approach him in the ''right''way according to his type and personality,but will the ''kid'' fall for it?Will he trust his brains and not his instinct?Kids dont do that so often!!!I guess well have to wait and see right????
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(Locke, and, yes, he is Jack's nemesis) .

To that i agree!!!!!Locke and Jack are so fun when together!!!Remember their little fights back in the hatch??I loved em!And i ll keep saying till i die,that i dont think ive ever heard anyone being more ironic than Jack when he was calling Locke ''John''.Thats the most shockingly ironic way ive ever witnessed!!!!!!!uncanny!!!!!And i dont say that in a bad way of course!Jack is one of the most respectful of men!!!But one ''and why would i want to do that,John?''from his mouth ,and im petrified!!!!Powerful stuff!!!

tigers dont change their stripes....

Wow the set up for this dynamic is just brilliant I think. Jack admitted he was so wrong about Ben when they had him in the hatch, so Sayid is very justified in questioning Jack's judgement! Convincing everyone Juliette can be trusted is going to be very hard and could really divide the whole survivor's camp. I predict Juliette will have to do something very heroic to convince the Losties she's not on the Other's side anymore. Maybe her (possibly) limited knowledge of the Island, the Dharma stations and the Others will help in this cause.

Then again, maybe the camp will kick Jack and Juliette out and they will go live in the caves alone :)

I voted for 'Something Else' too. Sayid's known to be the torturer and does whatever he can to dig out the truth about someone, or something. He always goes with his gut instincts. I don't think Jack will convince Sayid that Juliet is innocent. I'm sure in the next episode.. as we see in the preview..

Sayid talks to Juliet about what had happened to her. He probably will find out the truth since we'll be seeing more of Juliet's flashbacks. Will be interesting, especially if Ethan is in it. From my observation in the preview, the Juliet flashback looks like a Claire flashback to when she was drugged and getting examined by Ethan. When Claire was being examined, wasn't Juliet with Claire at the time? Trying to remember Season 2.. I'll have to watch that Claire & Ethan scene again and the preview again to make sure.. lol

Then again, maybe the camp will kick Jack and Juliette out and they will go live in the caves alone :)
Like Adam and Eve!!:coolgleamA:
wait!should i add ''course correction''???:61:
(i dont even get the exact definition):36:but i get the whole black hole thingy!!!(nooT!)

And Jack has delivered some of the better lines in the history of the show....

Like Adam and Eve!!:coolgleamA:
wait!should i add ''course correction''???:61:
(i dont even get the exact definition):36:but i get the whole black hole thingy!!!(nooT!)

yeah, that gets me too. :biggrin:

Like Adam and Eve!!:coolgleamA:
wait!should i add ''course correction''???:61:
(i dont even get the exact definition):36:but i get the whole black hole thingy!!!(nooT!)

Wait, what black hole thingy?

I opted for #4. Sayid thinks things through in a logical way and will probably do quite a bit of observation before deciding. This would be a great opportunity for him to enlist the aids of the other Losties, esp. Sawyer, Hurley. Kate? He may have reservations re: enlisting her aid after the episode in Othersville because of her emotional state. At least have a discussion with them re:their imprisonment and what observations they were able to make during their captivity. But I realize......sharing information and communication is not their best asset. May I be proven wrong this time!!!

Wait, what black hole thingy?
(star wars theme)the time travel thing, brotha!:yoda4::jedi3::vader5::sebulba:

Ive always been a fan of a possible simulated black hole environment, which would explain why nobody can see the island....

LOL! I thought when I first read the subject line for this thread that it was about something completely different! I thought it said: "Will Sayid Fall For Jack's But"!!!

And I was like: What?! Is this about Sayid being the secret token Gay dude?!? :biggrin: :biggrin:

Wow - lots of people expect Sayid to do something amazing rather than trusting of Juliet - I for one cannot wait to see just what he does do!

And Jack has delivered some of the better lines in the history of the show....

I totally agree with you on that!!! LOL I love his lines!!

One of my favs:

Dammit.. Kate! Run! :biggrin:

Sayid will work with Jack, which will enable him to get Jack's permission to question Juliet
. . .even keep an eye on her. At the same time, he and others (read: James, Kate, and possibly Hurley) will come up with a Plan B, in case Juliet really IS snowing Jack. This is clever strategy. And Sayid has learned the hard way that cleverness, rather than straight-out torture, is likelier to get results.

Wouldn't it be awesome if they all head back to camp together, Kate and Sawyer have a warm reunion because they've both had revelations, and Kate gives Sawyer a bunch of books and loot. They all sit around the campfire while Jack makes a speech about how they all have to start communicating better. explaining everything he went through since they saw him last, and why they should trust Juliette. Juliette tells them everything she knows about the others, Ben, and the Island, and Sayid listens carefully and then tells her "For now I believe you, but I will be watching you...." while giving her one of his looks.

Can't wait to see what will really happen though!

Wow - lots of people expect Sayid to do something amazing rather than trusting of Juliet - I for one cannot wait to see just what he does do!

hes just gotta!!!!Maybe try one of his world famous dance moves!!!(see my avi)
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Wouldn't it be awesome if they all head back to camp together, Kate and Sawyer have a warm reunion because they've both had revelations, and Kate gives Sawyer a bunch of books and loot. They all sit around the campfire while Jack makes a speech about how they all have to start communicating better. explaining everything he went through since they saw him last, and why they should trust Juliette. Juliette tells them everything she knows about the others, Ben, and the Island, and Sayid listens carefully and then tells her "For now I believe you, but I will be watching you...." while giving her one of his looks.

Can't wait to see what will really happen though!
Yeah,that would be awesome!Charlie d have to play ''imagine''on his guitar though,as well,while all the extras bang on tins and pans with their sporks and Locke gets connected with the island by strolling ,in trance,around the bonfire!

I voted for 1, although I don't think he'll go running to the camp telling everbody that Dr. Giggles is some leaves short of a plam tree now. But I think he won't keep silent about his distrust towards Juliet. And knowing Sayid, there will be good reasons for his distrust, because he can be very emotionally detached in those things. Jack can't, and I think that's exactly what Sayid is going to throw in his face - he's not impartial where Juliet is concerned.
I don't think he'll go as far as torturing the truth out of Juliet - yet. But he will have a close eye on her, and he will let her know that he has a close eye on her. Having somebody like Sayid watching you 24/7, with that special Sayid expression on his face, can render you paranoid...
I think it's far more interesting how Sawyer and Kate will react. Kate will never warm to Juliet for the simple reason that Juliet is close to Jack. And Sawyer...man, I'm looking forward to this. Sawyer just isn't going to trust Juliet. No way. And he's not going to silently sit by and watch her being introduced to the group with a big round of Kumbayah. Man, I'm SO looking forward to this :biggrin:

I voted for 1, although I don't think he'll go running to the camp telling everbody that Dr. Giggles is some leaves short of a plam tree now. But I think he won't keep silent about his distrust towards Juliet. And knowing Sayid, there will be good reasons for his distrust, because he can be very emotionally detached in those things. Jack can't, and I think that's exactly what Sayid is going to throw in his face - he's not impartial where Juliet is concerned.
I don't think he'll go as far as torturing the truth out of Juliet - yet. But he will have a close eye on her, and he will let her know that he has a close eye on her. Having somebody like Sayid watching you 24/7, with that special Sayid expression on his face, can render you paranoid...
I think it's far more interesting how Sawyer and Kate will react. Kate will never warm to Juliet for the simple reason that Juliet is close to Jack. And Sawyer...man, I'm looking forward to this. Sawyer just isn't going to trust Juliet. No way. And he's not going to silently sit by and watch her being introduced to the group with a big round of Kumbayah. Man, I'm SO looking forward to this :biggrin:

Well said,mate!!!!i cant wait for Sawyers reaction too!!!!It will be,hmm,entertaining,at the very least!

I'm quite looking forward to the reaction from Charlie and Claire, given their experience at the hands of the Others. Also, with Juliet's medical background I wouldn't be surprised if she had been directly involved in Claire's abduction/treatment.

One thing's for sure - life's going to get interesting down at beach camp. :rolleyes:

I voted for something else. I think Sayid will keep a close eye on Jack, I don't think he'll go screaming to all of the survivors to watch him! That's not his style. Sayid has been right every time. He has great insticts. My feeling though is that Jack hasn't been comprimised in anyway. Sayid definitely will not trust Juliet, and with good reason, none of them should be trusted. EVER.

Actually, Sayid has not always been right, only most of the time. Remember when he was attacked by John Locke, and when he approached John Locke, he lied to Sayid and convinced him it was Sawyer who attacked him.

Also, in Pilot (part 2), Sayid accused Sawyer of being the fugitive, when it was Kate who was the fugitive. How can you get confused between a man and a woman like that?

I will admit Sayid is pretty smart, and he's probably right about not trusting her. But still, even Sayid gets outwitted by the Others.

What will Sayid do. I think he will let her come and find out more info from Juliet.

In next week's episode, he will say, "I want you to tell me everything about your people."
Juliet says, "If I do that, they will kill me"
"What will think I will do if you don't?"

Actually, Sayid has not always been right, only most of the time. Remember when he was attacked by John Locke, and when he approached John Locke, he lied to Sayid and convinced him it was Sawyer who attacked him.


Um,you lost me brotha!i think ,what youre trying to say is that Sayid got attacked by Locke ,and still doesnt know ,eh?:rolleyes:

As for the spoiler ,my oh my!!!!Thats a classic@!!!!!!!!Good job Sayid!!!Great line!!!!!!!!:cool:

That spoiler begs the question: What is Juliet worried about if the Others truly abandoned her?