How many of you voted for Bush and got -

Four. More. Years?

Thankfully!

And how many didn't vote for our president?

I'm simply curious.

I didn't vote at all, there was no choice...but I would never resort myself to vote for Bush.

but I would never resort myself to vote for Bush.


Since I'm naturally curious, I'll ask:

Why not ever "resort" yourself to vote for President Bush?

I dont feel this is the place to discuss those answers/issues....however, there are many. For the sake of curiousity let's just say, I'm a liberal New Yorker, and we'll leave it at that.

Everyone in my household who was old enough to vote in the 2004 election voted for Kerry.

How can anyone vote for someone whos last name is a girls name :laugh:

Kerry is a unisex name, actually.

How can you vote for Bush and Dick--it's a little suggestive, don't you think?

Kerry is a unisex name, actually.

How can you vote for Bush and Dick--it's a little suggestive, don't you think?


Dick is short for Richard and how else would you say Dick in polite company :lol2:

I voted for Bush. I would have voted for ANYONE other than Kerry!

I voted for Bush. I would have voted for ANYONE other than Kerry!


Oh my gosh! A female over 30 who voted for Bush! I thought I was the only one.!

Oh my gosh! A female over 30 who voted for Bush! I thought I was the only one.!


Nope, you're not! Me, my mom, and both of my sisters-in-law voted for him! :lol2:

Well my mom did also but she is 62 and VERY Catholic and conservative, no way she is voting for a Democrate! She is pretty funny about it.

I am pretty conservative but I am able to clearly look at both sides before I make my decisions.

I am an Independent, and am really a moderate about most things. I just happen to LOATHE Kerry with every ounce of my being! I wouldn't have voted for him if he was the only man left on Earth!
My family is way more conservative than I am! We have VERY different opinions on most issues, but not Kerry.

Hmm...I don't know about demographics. I'm a 25 year old female from New England who voted for Bush.

However, if the democrats had put up a strong candidate, I might've been convinced to go the other way. Kerry just didn't do it for me.

Cheri - Anyone in TX votes Bush..... jk lol

I didn't vote. I'm not American. :laugh:
But if I were, I would have vote for Kerry.
ButI don't know enough about the different issues raised during the campaign to have a proper opinion of your country's choice.
And I'm not judging because I'm not proud of the latest presidential elections in my country, it was even worse to my eyes! >:( :-[

:lol2: :lol2: Star, I didn't vote for him as governor and I did NOT vote for him the first time around! :) It was just THIS election that I voted for him!!

Sure Cheri ::)

You know I'm kidding :P

:lol2: Yes, Star, I know you're kidding and I hope you know that I am, too! I love ya girl! It's all good! If I chose people as friends because we always agreed on everything then life would be pretty damn boring! lol

If I were able to vote, I would have voted KERRY! I have no idea how Bush got in again, and with moral issues! I'm sorry, but the lives of people are more important than whether or not same sex people can get married (not to mention the fact that it is discrimination to not allow them to). One could argue about Kerry being for abortion (which I am against) but that should not have been an issue to choose on because Bush hasn't done a thing to stop it. Not to mention the fact that poverty is a moral issue and he has only worsened that.
I can't wait until I can vote in 2008, though then it will be a tough decision if it is McCain who gets the Republican ticket.

I'm a member of NOW, so I watch his moves to prevent my rights like a hawk :fear: In the pro-choice community, Bush is a huge threat to us. From his judicial nominees to the "Partial-Birth" (a term coined by the anti-choice community) Abortion Ban, he's a threat.

http://www.thetruthaboutgeorge.com/women/index.html

http://www.now.org/issues/abortion/index.html

Also, no one is "for" abortion. People who are pro-choice believe that women should have the choice of whether or not they wish to carry a pregnancy to term or not.

Okay, sorry, i was wrong, Bush has done some stuff.

Wait, ANDA will ban doctors from talking to their patients about the choice of abortion? Now, I am against it, but in a way that I want it to be harder to get, and to have the adoption system strengthened. *Banning them from talking about the choice (especially if there is a health issue) is wrong.

A lot of foster homes suck.* We do need to strenghten the adoption system.* Let gay couples adopt, for Goddard's sake!* Most child molestors are heterosexual, anyway.* But the issue at hand, I believe, is not a fetus--not protoplasm--but a woman and her rights.

I'm trying not to get too political on this board.* So PEACE out, 'lagers!* :-*

ETA: You can make abortion illegal, but you're just killing women. When abortion was illegal, hundreds of women died from unsafe abortions or from trying to give themselves abortions.

the Abortion Issue: Varda's split personalities at their best.
The main thing I want, is the doctor to really talk to the woman about the choices. Let them know all the sides of the issue, especially teen mothers who are somewhat desperate. Just walking in and having them pull out the fetus does not seem right.

That's not how it is at all. Not even close. You have to talk to psychiatrists and doctors and discuss all the options before you get an abortion. If you're a teen, you have to have parental permission in most cases. An abortion is not that easy to get.

Really? I once read a book about teen pregnancy where it was totally different. Times may have changed from when the book was written (based on a true story a few years ago) but it made it seem that it was easy to get an abortion, even multiple ones. Who knows, maybe the doctors weren't following correct procedure or the character was able to lie about her age. I really should research it a bit more, but when I have I just get a bunch of pro-life pictures of dead babies (maybe i shouldn't search while at my Catholic school, they probably have all the abortion sites blocked)

Everyone in my household who was old enough to vote in the 2004 election voted for Kerry.


same here. I'm not old enough, I'll have to wait until 2008 when I'm 20. :P

I am pro-life; I'm pro-choice. *A woman's life is a human life. *You probably should do more research. *I did a lot of research on non-partisan websites and websites without religious bias. *What's the title of the book you read?

http://www.naral.org/facts/loader.cfm?url=/commonspot/security/getfile.cfm&PageID=16230

(I don't know if you'd find that biased or not, but I'd keep a neutral mindset if you do read it)

yeah but what you never hear is all the tons of women who can never have children again from messed up abortions... I'm a Christian and God talks about life before birth "you knew me even in my mother's womb" and fetus's kick, get hiccups, DON"T share blood with the mother. The mother is the carrier of the life until it is ready to come into the open world.. it is not a part of her, therefore she has no choice in it at all. These are just my opinions and you know i still love ya G lol. *G and i know we have major differences in opinions but we can still be kool with each other and be civilized.

Oh and to DR... yes i voted for Bush. *My whole family does, and my grandparents from... dum dum dum! Ohio! rofl. *And uh, yeah sometimes there were deaths by the illegal abortions but the death ratio was way down because of the discouragement of the legal ones. They are not really any more safe. OH and the "partial-birth" abortion is called that because.... it's where they baby's body comes out and then they suffocate the head. SO they baby is born and then it is left to die. *It is very sickening and if people knew the whole truth, i'm sure a lot more would be against it. Plus, i'm a big fan of this war... not war itself... but the premise of allowing others to have freedom... and those soldiers wouldn't have joined if they didn't have the heart for others and their country and the stance of freedom. *Those who wanted money for college deserve this anyway. I can't vote for a man like John Kerry, who was so against the helping of Vietnam and every other damn war that's ever been. *And on the thought of gay marriage... that's just a sickening twist of what God meant to be a great gift. It's a miscontsruation... males and females have their certain differences for those reasons. *I'm not gonna say it's a mental disorder or nothing like that... but they are NOT born that way. *God does not create homo's. Im not using that in a derogative way. I have no hate towards homosexuals or bisexuals, i just hate the sin. *Sry for my rant.... it's prolly best we leave politics off here but we've had some good success in the past :P *

yeah but what you never hear is all the tons of women who can never have children again from messed up abortions...

Because abortion is illegal and too hard to acquire.


... I'm a Christian and God talks about life before birth "you knew me even in my mother's womb" and fetus's kick, get hiccups, DON"T share blood with the mother. The mother is the carrier of the life until it is ready to come into the open world.. it is not a part of her, therefore she has no choice in it at all.


And forcing a woman to carry a fetus to term can be defined as a state of servitude (Lack of personal freedom, as to act as one chooses.) which is illegal.* By definition, a fetus is a parasite (An organism that grows, feeds, and is sheltered on or in a different organism while contributing nothing to the survival of its host. ).

Separation of Church and State for the whole God issue.* Not everyone's a Christain, and not everyone believes in God* ;D


These are just my opinions and you know i still love ya G lol.* G and i know we have major differences in opinions but we can still be kool with each other and be civilized.


Yepperdoo* :-*


OH and the "partial-birth" abortion is called that because.... it's where they baby's body comes out and then they suffocate the head. SO they baby is born and then it is left to die.*

Incorrect.* When the bones begin to calcify in the fetus, you have to induce labor and then the fetus is removed.* These types of abortion (they're actually called D&E) usually occur in the second trimester.* I'm trying to find the percent, but I'm positive the large majority of D&E do NOT occur within the third trimester and they mainly take place due to serious medical reasons.


Check out the facts:

http://www.plannedparenthood.org/pp2/portal/files/portal/medicalinfo/abortion/pub-abortion-surgical.xml#1097785817225::-8438456131349880692

(Varda, I highly suggest that link.* It's non-partisan, and WAY better than the other sites I gave you)

And on the thought of gay marriage... that's just a sickening twist of what God meant to be a great gift. It's a miscontsruation... males and females have their certain differences for those reasons. I'm not gonna say it's a mental disorder or nothing like that... but they are NOT born that way. God does not create homo's. Im not using that in a derogative way. I have no hate towards homosexuals or bisexuals, i just hate the sin. Sry for my rant.... it's prolly best we leave politics off here but we've had some good success in the past :P


Here's my opinion on a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. (And the only reason I'm sharing it is that it has nothing to do with morality.)

It is absolutely shocking to me that Conservatives would back a constitutional amendment regarding gay marriage. At the heart of conservatism is a belief in a smaller central government, leaving states and localities plenty of room to legislate themselves. It is a strong believe is the separation of powers, and the idea that no branch of government should try to usurp more power than was given to it in the Constitution itself.

The Constitution states clearly that the legislative branch may use only those powers given it in the Constiution itself and may not legislate beyond those boundaries. The main areas where Congress may legislate is interstate commerce, taxing and spending, and federal property. If Congress is not given a power in the Constitution, it simply doesn't have it. Passing legislation that deals with morality or marriage is not a power given to Congress--thus Congress doesn't have it.

This is exactly the type of issue that the Founding Fathers wanted to go to states or localities. It's a basic issue of federalism and separation of powers.

Not that I don't respect everyone else's opinions--I just enjoy annoying people with my yapping about the Constitution. :)

Ok I'm a little reluctant to tell you my true feelings, well just don't throw things at me OK?

I'm pro-choice all the way but I don't have a problem with sterilizing repeat offenders.........................

*runs and hides*

Seriously, I think I'm just going to shut up now. Can you all see why I didn't want to get political before? I've probably dug myself into a huge hole--made myself look like a complete idiot. *le sigh*

But that wouldn't be the Queen C thing to do, now would it? As long as we've all still got lurve for one another :-*

theG - don't you dare run and hide. Stand proud with me
Its a great country and we can voice our opinion. Its wonderful to believe anything you want.
I can honestly say I have not seen or read a single thing from anyone on this board that made me think less of them.
Everybody should voice their opionion because we all have a voice. Who said We All Everybody????????

*vicki steps down off her soapbox*
Love ya theG and love all the lostkateers/lostaways

*e-huggles for all lostkateers no matter what their stance on any issue is*

*extra e-huggles for my PA*

{{{ hugs }}} back at cha G

Nite all
Fanout

I read Anne's Baby. It was the diary of a 14 year old who got pregnant, only names edited (at least thats what the back said). She actually chickened out when in the waiting room for the abortion, so there probably was more to it when they called her name. I am divided on the issue because I do believe that it is murder (although I am for stem cell research 100%, the research will SAVE lives) but I also believe in having choice. Like I said, my multiple personalities at their best.

I'm sorry, but homosexuality is actually natural. There are homosexual animals, and unless they are somehow affected by our society, then they were born that way. Not allowing people to be married who want to be and are in love is against AMERICA. The marriage will not be official in a Church, only recognized by the state, and they will have the same benefits as any married couple.

I am against all war, the whole premise is completely idiotic. Many see me as young and stupid, but really, why can't stupid disagreements be settled in a soccer game? Yea, I know I'm an utopiest. I can see Bush wanting to bring peace to the Middle East. But why the lies? I am not against the soldiers, they are doing their job, and maybe what they think is right. But they do not deserve to be forced to watch innocents die from a bomb they dropped. No one deserves that horror. War should be the last resort, and Bush did nothing before going to war. And because of this war many have died, our soldiers, some terrorists, and tonsd of innocent Iraqis.

Abortion saved a friend of mine's life. I can't remember exactly what was wrong (I should ask), but the fetus was probably not going to survive and my friend would have died if she hadn't had the pregnancy terminated.

Abortion for health issues I am for 100%. It really is when a perfectly healthy woman is just getting rid of the perfectly healthy baby because they want to do other things that I'm against. Sure, it is 9 months of servitude, but if we can clear up the adoption issue then actions could be taken so it is not servitude but a type of job, in a way.

You having to do a job you don't want to is slavery.* A fetus isn't a baby, either.

From abortionisprolife.com:

Is a baby a fetus?
A baby, infant, or child, is not a fetus. A baby is an actual human being. A baby, or adult, is a fetus actualized, just like a young oak tree is an acorn actualized.


Also from abortionisprolife.com:

Is abortion murder?
Murder is the taking of the life of another human being through the initiation of physical force. Abortion is not murder, because a fetus is not an actual human being—it is a potential human being, i.e. it is a part of the woman [part of the womb]. The concept murder only applies to the initiation of physical force used to destroy an actual human being, such as when "pro-life" terrorists bomb abortion clinics.

ETA: No matter how long the duration, slavery is still unconstitutional. And pregnancy and labor really take a toll on the body.

Heres my stand, and don't bother trying to change me, I am stubborn and set in my ways* :lol2:

Abortion

Pro choice, why, because we only speak for ourselves, we do not speak for anyone else.* Whatever one woman chooses to do with her body and her child is her own business.* Who is anyone else to have an opinion in the matter? If she regrets it, she made her choice, let her live with it, if she doesn't regret it, let her be happy, it is HER life, no one elses.* Would I have an abortion, probably not.* But then again, I haven't had to deal with a pregnancy at a young age, or being raped and getting pregnant, or simply not wanting a baby....Is abortion murder? well according to the law it is not since it is legal (and a fetus is actually not a human being believe it or not), however everyone has their own moral agenda to live by, and that is great, but dont press your own morals onto another person.

Gay Rights

Why not?* Gay people are no different than straight people, except for their sexual preference in a partner, big deal.* Again, who is anyone else to voice their opinion in the matter, it is their life, let them be happy.* It states in the Constitution that everyone is entitled to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness"....also under Article IV of the Constituion is the "Full Faith and Credit Act" where a state is supposed to acknowledge the marriage of any couple in another state, etc.* So if someone is married in Mass. (gay people) then it is supposed to be acknowledged elsewhere, and this is currently a big debate right now.* I am proud to say I support gay rights, and gay marriage, I have the ability to open my mind beyond what someone else has told me is "right" or "moral".*

Who are we to speak of morals, no one is completely perfect or moral, and I don't see how being gay is even immoral to begin with, they love the same way everyone else does, and they should be accepted just like everybody else, people who are gay are still people, human beings, entitled to everything else any other human being is entitled to.* I am so sick of everyone passing judgement upon the gay community like they actually have any knowledge about the lifestyle.* I am also sick of people being so afraid of something which they refuse to understand in it's entirety.*

One day, our society will look back at these times much like the way the majority of our society looks back on civil rights....we were basically speaking the same thing about African Americans and other minorities, well now "gays" are the minorities....and one day they too shall come to have the same civil liberties as everyone else.*

*standing ovation for Star*

Well said my friend! Well said!

Haha Thanks Cheri...Nice new avie by the way, I almost didn't recognize you :P

Did I come off as trying to press my beliefs onto others?* That really wasn't my intent.

ETA:* I wasn't trying to push my beliefs onto others.* I was just trying to show people some facts because they obviously hadn't ever seen them before and have made an uninformed opinion.* I didn't say my opinion was right or that their's was wrong.

:)

theG, it didn't come across as you trying to push your beliefs on to me. You were just talking about something you feel very strongly about.

Star, hehehehe, that's my Dustin! :angel:

I worry about it sometimes, though. I really don't want to push beliefs on people. Thanks for clearing it up, CruCheri :)

theG, no problem! I have things that I feel just as strongly about, but I choose to take a stand in person with people. This thread is for people to feel free to speak their minds about what they believe. No one has attacked anyone else. No one has openly tried to instigate hostility. Politics makes most people argue because of differing opinions. I happen to really enjoy the fact that all of us have been able to voice our opinions here without anyone being ugly. And hey, if we all agreed on everything, the world would be a boring place! :)

Darn tootin'. I usually prefer discussing politics with people in person, as I've stated in other threads. I was really trying to not get too involved on this board, alas, I couldn't stop myself.

:-* for everyone.

theG, I am glad that you DID get involved in this thread! I may not agree with you on some issues, but I enjoy reading what you have to say. It gives me food for thought!

I'm glad I posted if you enjoyed reading it then :)

Hmm...I've been wondering whether I should weigh in on the abortion issue. I wasn't going to, but everyone here has been so respectful and cool so I figure why not. :)

I see the abortion issue a bit differently than most. I'm pro-life, but for somewhat unusual reasons.

Even though I'm a Catholic, I would oppose any legislation based on religion, because I am a strong supporter of the Establishment Clause.

For me, abortion is about human rights, plain and simple. When a woman becomes pregnant, a being is created, regardless of how small. Something is created that will be a human and deserves the same protections as other humans.

I agree completely that a woman has a right to control her own body. But an embryo (or fetus or whatever you want to call it) is not her body--it's someone else's. A woman has a right to decide whether to have children--but in my opinion when she decides to have sex she's made that choice.

I also think the Supreme Court misread the Constitution completely when they decide Roe v. Wade (and prior privacy cases like Griswold v. Connecticut which led to the holding in Roe.) See, I can't talk about any major issue without bringing up the Constitution--what's wrong with me? :)

That said I still don't have a problem with allowing for exceptions to protect the life of the mother.

Anyway, for me it's not about God, or even morals. It's about human rights. Just thought I'd add in my two cents. I'm psyched to see that everyone here is so cool about respecting everyone else's opinions--

And I totally respect all of yours as well-- :)

We all have different ideas of what a human being actually is.* I've stated mine and I disagree that human tissue is a human being and you have to be born to have citizenship in the U.S. so...err...* :-* for everyone having their own opinion on the issue.* We're all different people.* While I don't understand how potential should be treated as actual, you might not understand why I believe the opposite.

We're also faced with the rape issue.* What if you were raped (or incest) and became pregnant?* You didn't chose to have sex.* So, should rape/incest victims be able to get an abortion?* And what if you can't prove you were raped?* Also, I'm sure there would be some way to lie and say you were raped when you were not and terminate a pregnancy.

Another issue is RU-486.* Abortions in France have been cut by 1/3, I believe, since the morning-after pill was legalized.

I think you need to bring up the Constitution in political discussions.

ETA: It looks like I don't understand that citizens of other countries are protected by the U.S. Constitution while in the U.S., but...err...I do know that.

Being human is a state of mind (I think) and it has nothing to do with what you look like or what species you are - I think if we met an alien race that had the exact same values as us - would we not call them human aswell - imean would they also have Humanity ::)

Did I come off as trying to press my beliefs onto others? *That really wasn't my intent.

ETA: *I wasn't trying to push my beliefs onto others. *I was just trying to show people some facts because they obviously hadn't ever seen them before and have made an uninformed opinion. *I didn't say my opinion was right or that their's was wrong.

:)


Um....was this referenced at me? *??? lol

Sort of, but not really, Star.* You just kind of reminded me that I usually say that.


- I think if we met an alien race that had the exact same values as us - would we not call them human aswell - imean would they also have Humanity ::)


That's not the same as potential and actual, which is the case with a fetus/embryo and a baby/child/adult.* Apples and oranges.

The idea of aliens who have the same exact values as us is a) not likely as we have no evidence of a place exaclty like earth, thus the organisms on other, inhabitable planets would not be quite like what we have on earth and b) the issue would be controversial as we wouldn't be the same species.* Both sides would consider the other side alien.* Remember when people thought if you weren't white, you weren't superior?* That would definitely be an issue as people still believe certain races are superior to others...

Sort of, but not really, Star.* You just kind of reminded me that I usually say that.

That's not the same as potential and actual, which is the case with a fetus/embryo and a baby/child/adult.* Apples and oranges.

The idea of aliens who have the same exact values as us is a) not likely as we have no evidence of a place exaclty like earth, thus the organisms on other, inhabitable planets would not be quite like what we have on earth and b) the issue would be controversial as we wouldn't be the same species.* Both sides would consider the other side alien.* Remember when people thought if you weren't white, you weren't superior?* That would definitely be an issue as people still believe certain races are superior to others...


It was hypothetical - but my point was that being Human is different from just being a Homosapien :angel: Also there are there sub species if Homosapien IE. Caucasian, Negroid and Mongoloid - or as english cops say IC1, IC2 and IC3


PS. Ha Ha I said Homo :lol2:

I just went back and re read the thread....

the G you are right that before abortion was made legal women were giving themselves abortions using coat hangers, is that humane, I don't think so. *

And again, just because a woman does not want a child, it is a state of servitude to carry one when the woman does not want to. *That is why abortion is made legal, a woman is entitled to choose what she wants to do with something (potentially, someone) that is growing inside her. *A fetus does not have ideas, ideas are implanted to us after we are born. *It is not nature that determines our state of mind, but nurture. *

Also, there is the seperation of Church and State, one of my personal favorites. *I myself am a religious person, however, religion does not and should not play a part in the laws of America. *Not everyone believes in God, and even those who do, that does not mean they have to believe that those beliefs should be brought in to govern our society. *I don't believe they should, and the whole reason there is a seperation of church and state is because religion would reign like a tyranny over us if there wasn't a seperation. *Religion is also based on the belief of a God...we do not have any factual based evidence to prove there is a God, so it is therefore our belief, our hope that there is one. *How can we let something we truly know nothing about reign over our lives and dictate to those who do not have that belief in God. *

Mallek, I believe Star has said what I've been trying to articulate but have been coming up empty handed:


A fetus does not have ideas, ideas are implanted to us after we are born.* It is not nature that determines our state of mind, but nurture.*

Haha, glad I could be of some assistance around here :P

Me too ;D

I stand corrected - sadi the man in the orthropedic shoes :laugh:

Legalised abortion can only be a good thing - coz some woemn will always want (?) an abortion and it is far better to do it in clean proffesional enviroment like a hospital rather than some one house :-\

Which is what I said earlier in the post, Mallek. You can make something illegal, but that's not stopping anyone from doing it.

Yes Mallek, I couldn't agree more, and we should stop giving our own personal agenda in the matter. *If a person is strongly against an abortion (particularly women) they should not be concerned, they will not have an abortion and should feel happy they have made the "right choice" according to themselves (I would assume). *And if another woman wants an abortion, let her have it in a clean and safe manner, it is her decision (like I have stated before) and if it were not broadcasted across the country, no one would even care about it anyway. *How many times during a day do we think about some woman within a mile radius getting an abortion....I know I don't. *

Don't like abortion, don't get one or have a vasectomy. That's usually what I say after friendly debates with friends. I think I have that bumper sticker...

LOL good bumper sticker......I have a awesome bumper sticker as well, "Jesus loves you, everyone else thinks you're an @&*39le" (Hopes you got that)

Yes Mallek, I couldn't agree more, and we should stop giving our own personal agenda in the matter. *If a person is strongly against an abortion (particularly women) they should not be concerned, they will not have an abortion and should feel happy they have made the "right choice" according to themselves (I would assume). *And if another woman wants an abortion, let her have it in a clean and safe manner, it is her decision (like I have stated before) and if it were not broadcasted across the country, no one would even care about it anyway. *How many times during a day do we think about some woman within a mile radius getting an abortion....I know I don't. *


definately - we are all entitled to our opinions but that doesn't mean we can shove them down other people's throats. I have two children and I couldn't imagine life without them it's like they have always been here. :)

Awww isn't that sweet :) and I'm glad a Brit agrees with me (I think you're British....um, I hope so haha, sorry if you aren't)

I can't imagine life without my niece. *She's the cutest, sweetest thing I've ever met.

I have that magnet, Star. *I have a "Doing My Part to Pi$$ Off the Religious Right" bumpersticker as well as the following:

Can't Feed 'Em, Don't Breed 'Em
Question Authority
Freedom Means Choice (are you lot surprised?)
Christians--Can't Live With 'Em, Can't Throw 'Em to the Lions (no offense to any Christians--my best friend's a devout Christain)
Darwin (one of the fishy things)
IMPEACH BUSH
Well Behaved Women Rarely Make History

...what can I say? *I like bumper stickers... :-\

I guess so haha.....and quite the variety I must say :)

I only have that one, plus a college sticker....with my major written on it "Psychology"....people must look at those 2 and think...."God help us" haha

I promise I'll make an excellent shrink though, I'm going into Forensic Psych so I'll hopefully get to work for the FBI and talk to all the super freaky weirdo serial killers lol

Awww isn't that sweet :) and I'm glad a Brit agrees with me (I think you're British....um, I hope so haha, sorry if you aren't)




I am not British I am ENGLISH born and bred, well actualy my grandad was 4th generation Italian - his great grandparents came here in 1901

Great bumper stickers G :lol2:

I wasn't able to vote but I would've voted for Kerry. I don't like the "No Child Left Behind" plan he has going (it seems more kids are being left behind with the program). It's just more testing for us at the bottom of the food chain! It sucks! *>:( And he's going to be president until my senior year of high school! I'M DOOMED!!!!!!! :lol2:

Well we're all doomed....no one believes me but Bush is behind a gov. conspiracy....and it's going to cause the destruction of atleast America if not the whold world :-\

another bumper sticker

Jahovas Witnesses - Can't Live with 'em , can't kill them and bury them in the back garden :lol2:

PS. although my aunty Phil is a Jahovas Witness, and I ahve friends who are Jahovas Witnesses all women though :angel:

How will you spend the last 4 years on Earth?

I promise I'll make an excellent shrink though, I'm going into Forensic Psych so I'll hopefully get to work for the FBI and talk to all the super freaky weirdo serial killers lol


:lol2:

The No Child Left Behind Act would have been okay if it had been properly funded.

All great nations fall. *We've seen this happen in the past. *Personally, I think Bush is just going to make the inevitable come sooner.

*head hurts* Haven't thoroughly discussed politics since fall of 2004.

Mallek, brilliant!

pb101, watching LOST and postin' on the 'Lage.

How will you spend the last 4 years on Earth?

is that a threat :lol2:

No. :lol2: Bushonlyhas 4years to destroy the world.

Ugh! I'm going to move to Britain when the US falls. The English seemed to have a nice system over there.

LOL LOVE that one Peanut......I have to find that one for myself :)

When Bush got re-elected, I know a couple who decided to move to France. I think they've already bought a house.

No.* :lol2: Bushonlyhas 4years to destroy the world.

Ugh! I'm going to move to Britain when the US falls. The English seemed to have a nice system over there.


Depends how you look at it - but It is deffinately less comercialised over here :angel:

And Dom's from over there. How bad could it be?

And Dom's from over there. How bad could it be?


It's not bad at all - It's the best Country in the world *stands and salutes* :lol2:

Mallek--Now you sound like Texas (no offense to anyone from TX)

I don't know that I'll be moving to England if I end up like Mallek ;)

I'm already like Mallek! :o

I don't know that I'll be moving to England if I end up like Mallek* ;)


Hey - I'm all that and a bag of chips don't forget *turns back on theG, and sticks nose in the air* :lol2: - and peanut likes me - that must be a good thing - I like you too.

I think I'm kinda like Mallek also....just a harsher language version ;)

I won't hold it against you if you resent me, Mallek. *I understand. *It's hard not to resent someone as wonderful as me.

Do you guys know I was refering to the whole "best country in the world" thing, right?

America? or Texas...one of the two haha

Wow I just went and read all the posts in this thread since my last post. Kind-of wishing I hadn't said anything...

I won't hold it against you if you resent me, Mallek. *I understand. *It's hard not to resent someone as wonderful as me.

Do you guys know I was refering to the whole "best country in the world" thing, right?


I don't resent you even though you are wonderful :angel:

Thanks for clearing it up :-* ;)

I've been wanting to move to Canada since the election, parents (though my mom is as devastated as me) seem to want to stay till the end, like the captain on the Titanic. Oh well, it was a good run...

My friend has a penpal in Finland. He was going to become a foreign exchange student there, but...err...he didn't...

I have a few internet friends who wouldn't mind taking me in.... don't think I'd want to do that to them though...

This is all sounding rather ominous and paranoid :D

Well, I've got ties in France. I'm of English descent. Mallek, would you all over there take me in if need be?

oh well, it isnt too paranoid... at least we arent afraid to even talk about not liking Bush online, unlike some people *cough*mydad*cough*

:lol2: No way!

sad but true... he gave me this whole lecture about what i can say to my online friend who is in the Air Force. when i told my friend he was just like 'you do know not everyone in the government is kept under surveillance, right?'

BWAHAHAH! Geez! My mother is always joking around about how I'm probably on a ton of government lists, especially when I get my issue of Mother Jones.

hehehehe...... my political involvement doesnt usually go farther from watching the Daily Show, listening to NPR when my dad refuses to change the station, and reading a few politcal books, and hating the Bush administration, so I'm pretty sure I'm fine.

Most likely. I get at least one letter from my senator 'cause he's a right-winger and I feel compelled to e-mail him every month to make sure he doesn't screw up things too badly.

Dang ya'll! I take a Sunday afternoon nap, come back, and now I have to go back and read 4 pages worth of stuff to catch up with what ya'll are talking about! *:lol2:

ahhhh....... I have Obama, so I'm pretty good there.

Well, right now we're discussing the possibility of the government having me on some kind of list or somesuch.

My grandmother is a die-hard Republican, but is in love with Obama. She said she'd consider voting Hilary Clinton/Obama if they were to ever run for president together. I don't know if that would happen, but I thought I'd share ;D

Almost everyone I know voted for Bush, but if I could, I probably would have voted for Kerry. I don't know, politics bore me. :lol2:

Oh, I'd definately vote for Clinton/Obama! I like McCain and very few other Republicans (oh, if only the people behind Bush hadn't made those phone calls and McCain lost the ticket... how the world would be... his administration may have paid attention to the stuff left behind and 9/11 wouldn't have happened and and.... oh well, cant live in the past)

While we're on "ifs", I would campaign my butt off for Clinton/Obama. My state is normally blue, but it and its surrounding states would be so blue that...it would be really blue...

when i see those pictures of the blue and red states i feel so lonely. I'm surrounded by red! its the color of war...

Fortunately, I've only got a few red states nearby. We're mainly blue around here. STUPID OHIO (no offense to any of our VIPs from Ohio even though she isn't reading this).

I am surrounded by Canada (who didn't vote) and New HampSHIRE sorry, that was really bad (Which is a blue state) So I'm good here!

I was watching The Daily Show and he was showing the graph of what the US would look like if the icebergs melted in Antartica and almost all ofthe blue states would be gone! Now we know why Bush doesn't care about air pollution!

lucky..... its strange how the blue states are around the two coasts... i guess Lake Michigan is our ocean access... hey pb! you beat me to a Jon Stewart thing! though mine is about how he pointed out that 'the states close to water know whats going on' or something along those lines

"Canada being mad at you is like Mr. Rogers throwing a brick through your window."
--Jon Stewart, The Daily Show

I was watching the Daily Show and Lewis Black said something along these lines: *"I have a really funny joke to tell you about the people who voted for Bush, but it's not nice to make fun of the mentally retarded."

*shrug* I thought it was funny, but we all know why that is.

Hee, Varda! Glad to find another Jon Stewart fan. Was Lewis Black on this week?

My quote is from about a week after the election.* I haven't seen the Daily Show is ages* :o

hehehe!

"Kudos to the Supreme Court for ruling it illegal to execute 16 and 17 year olds. I don't have the best relationship with the Supreme Court, words have been sad, naked photos printed... You may remember a few years ago they ruled it unconstitutional to execute the mentally retarded. So... thanks to the Supreme Court for keeping our core fanbase... uh.... alive." -Jon Stewart

yea, Lewis was on this week! I forget what he talked about though... I think it may have been the episode where the Rock was on... I'm not sure though.

:lol2: I have got to start watching the Daily Show again!

I have the election special taped right after the Moth... what can be better than heroin withdrawl Dom and the Daily Show at its best? i missed the first few minutes though, which was the best part because they mentioned a bunch of old correspondents, and as an old fan that was just awesome...

I think I should have my own talk show. I'd give you a segment where you talk about what happened on the Daily Show. Discussions of LOST could occur. Perhaps some special guests could come on *snaps back into reality* *le sigh*

o man... I can handle some things, but if I ever get on the Daily Show I'll probably have the biggest freak out

Me: *red faced and shivering*
Jon: um... are you ok?
Me: my mom thinks you're hot...
Jon: um... thank you?
Me: I liked it in the Faculty when you got stabbed in the eye with a pen... highest point in your acting career, I think
Jon: better than Half Baked?
Me: even ON WEED! *hysterics*

:roflmao: x5464564576756834888459

Brilliant.

"My mom thinks you're hot..." :laugh:

I SO want to get a ticket to a free taping of the Daily Show! That would be the best birthday present EVA!!!

That would jumpkick, pb101. I'm going to a BtVS/Angel convention for my birthday, so I know that can't happen this year *le sigh*

stupid WB!!! All Angel fans hate you!!! >:(

Hear, hear! I only break my WB boycott for Gilmore Girls, which is totally cool because Jane Espenson used to work for that show and Rebecca Rand Kirshner does now. Also, they sometimes have Angel/BtVS references. I feel kind of bad for my WB boycott because they were the only ones willing to give BtVS a home, but *shrug* it's not like I'm missing much.

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hehehe..... sad but true... me and me mum watch it together every night, and i have to deal with the occasional "Lindy, I think Jon likes me..."
oh, you cant go to a Daily Show taping under the age of 18. I've already tried...

more of the Varda/Jon Stewart interview:

Varda: OH! *This is something that has annoyed me for ages! Rob Corddry's first story was on Spiderman, and he injected uranium into himself and got bitten by a poisonous spider so he could get super powers. Then the sky was shown, as if he were soaring through the air, but then 'Rob Corddry: Daily Show Correspondent 2002-2002' but then he is still alive and doing stories! How?
Jon: we cloned him
Varda: oh ok, I understand.

If you have a Y chromosome, my mother finds you attractive.

If I was on the Daily Show, we would end up talking about how I'm lactose intolerant and how much I love Spaghettios. We also might talk about elipses.

I loved Cordry's Boston Red Sox "Curse" Story. Now everytime I see him, I always say "Hey there's Coddry (pronouncing it CAW-dry). I appreciate a man who loves the Red Sox!

If I was on The Daily Show, I would end up talking about LOST. I'm sad that way.

I'd probably do what David Boreanaz did and lay back on the couch as if it was a therapy session... and then rant about the Daily Show on the Daily Show, which will blow peoples minds...

I would sit on Jon's lap, or on his desk. I could rant about lots of things. I talk faster than Lorelai Gilmore, so it might be tough to interrupt me.

David Boreanaz was on THE DAILY SHOW!!!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHH!!!!! :o I need to know what they talked about!!!!!!

when i get in my rambling mood I talk FAST. my friend Carrie says I didnt take a breath for 5 minutes after someone brought up hobbits.
I cant remember a thing David said... it went really fast, they jumped from one topic to another quickly. it was also years and years ago

Have you ever heard of Wacko's America? It's a song where the Animaniacs sing all 50 states and D.C. I can sing that without taking a breath! POW!

when i get in my rambling mood I talk FAST. my friend Carrie says I didnt take a breath for 5 minutes after someone brought up hobbits.
I cant remember a thing David said... it went really fast, they jumped from one topic to another quickly. it was also years and years ago


Was he promoting Angel or his movie?

I can sing Hey Ho to the Bottle I Go without a breath... while skipping! i havent tried while doing high-kicks, but i should

I dont remember..... maybe Angel... maybe that one movie... Valentine or something?

I can sing the Alphabet in one breath!

oh my! I'm close to being the Queen again! sweet!

abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxy what comes after y? otherwise thats easy!

Can you sing 99 Bottles of Beer on the Wall in one breath?

sadly, no.... i get to the second verse at least

Can you sing "This is the Song That Never Ends" in one breath?

Only if I break out my never-ending one breath powers.

no, my head explodes from annoyingness...

Have you ever heard of the Booger Worm song?* That also never ends.

i may have, yes... i think i ended up literally putting a sock in their mouth...

SINEAD O'CONNOR!

*does a Hal Sparks impression of Sinead O'Connor*

No I never did. Can you sing "I Know a Song That Gets On Everybody's Nerves" in one breath?

nope
CAUSE NOTHING COMPARES... NOTHING COMPARES TO YOU!

My touchdown dance would be: rondulet, rondulet, push the clouds, push the clouds, and...jazz hands!

Michael Ian Black, buhbay!

Are you annoyed with me? *:lol2: And I know I'm perfect. :angel:

talking of my favorite shows ever! if I were ever on the 'I Love the' series... oh the possibilities!

Me: the best part of 2004, in fact the whole decade, and maybe the whole entire existence of Man: the premiere of LOST! As a crazed Nazgirl, Buffy, Angel, and Alias fan, this was heaven....
MIB: Lost? Whats this? A plane crash? On a deserted island? Where's Gilligan?
Rachael Harris: POLAR BEARS! THE FRENCH! HOBBITS HANGING FROM TREES! That show was insane...
Dom: Hey, I know that show...
Hal Sparks: We all know Dominic Monaghan is really addicted to heroin...

:lol2:

Hal Sparks (in a high-pitched voice):* Oh my GOD!* Dominic Bernard Patrick Luke Monaghan was sooooooo good on that LOST show.* Oh my God!* He was just soooo SEX-AY!

MIB: How does Hal Sparks know Dominic Monaghan's full name?

(no offense to any Dom fangirls out there, but you know it would happen!)

If I were ever on I Love the... I would go insane

Me (screaming): OMG!!! OMG!!!! THE HOBBIT THE HOBBIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

MIB: This was an all star cast, Matthew Fox who was on Po5 who, of course, played the doctor, Harold Perineau who had just come out of The Matrix, Naveen Andrews who was in "The English Patient" was on LOST and...the Hobbit, Dominic Monaghan played a drug addicted bass playing one-hit wonder?

Hal Sparks (in high pitched voice): YOU ALL EVERYBODY!!!!

This is all sounding rather ominous and paranoid* :D

Well, I've got ties in France.* I'm of English descent.* Mallek, would you all over there take me in if need be?


Certainly - I am suprised you needed to ask :angel:

My touchdown dance would be: rondulet, rondulet, push the clouds, push the clouds, and...jazz hands!

Clair Sweaney Jazz Hands :lol2:

Dom: *moves away from Hal*
Hal: OH MY GAWD! HE'S ON THIS SHOW TOO?!
(oh my i feel so bad because i cant think of their names but its those two guys and and and... oh man...): I'm not going to watch a show about people stranded on an island if theres no guy in a funny hat...
(otherguy): well, that pregnant girl had a hat...

The Modern Humorist?

The guys from Modern Humorist would be Jack and Sawyer. Rachel Harris would be Kate. GO! Write something brilliant!

YES! THATS IT! man, thats my second favorite show, how could i let that happen?

ok... *starts pondering*

The guys from Modern Humorist would be Jack and Sawyer. Rachel Harris would be Kate. GO! Write something brilliant!


Or better yet...how about the Modern Humorist is Jack/Sawyer and Kate!

Guy with glasses: Kate, pick me! I'm a doctor! No, don't pick the doctor...pick me the crazy Southern con man!!!
Other guy (High pitched voice): I won't pick either of you. You'd distract me from my pensiveness!

Rachel Harris: Boy those people were crazy!!!

That's even better! *drunken slur* I LOVE YOU, MAN!!!

*Sawyer is reading 'A Wrinkle in Time'*
Kate: Sawyer! a polar bear and a boar are in the jungle fighting over bananas!
Sawyer: No thank you, its a very tough for Meg right bow, she misses her father so much...
Jack: KATE! Come hang with a man with a college degree AND who doesn't read Children's science fiction!
Sawyer: hey! i didnt kill the boar!
Jack:

The Modern Humorist as Charlie and Claire! GO!

Guy with Glasses (high pitched voice): Hi Hobbit!
Other guy: I told you not to call me that!!!
GwG: I'm sorry, Hob...Charlie! You just look so much like Merry.
Other Guy: Whatever! Here's the stupid peanut butter you asked for! It's extra smooth! :'(

what do you mean by Modern Humorist?

Wow I leave for a few hours, come back and there is like 5 pages of stuff I just had to catch up on.. *headache* :P

There's this series called "I Love The *insert decade in the 1900's*" and people comment on the decade. *The Modern Humorist is a two-man comedian thing-y...er...ish...

Charlie: You know Claire, you're so Aussie and blonde....
Claire: I know, dont you just want to brush my hair?
Charlie: Yea... and you stomach... so huge and fake...
Claire: YOU DISSIN' MY TUMMY? Well I'm going to hang you from a tree!

Hal Sparks: YOU ALL EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!! STOP YOUR FIGHTING AND EAT PEANUT BUTTER!

Here's some Advil, Star! Basically, we're talking about what I Love The... would say about LOST.

The Modern Humorist as Boone and Shannon. GO!

Thanks my little peanut *:P

I saw you guys were talkin about I love the .... I love that show, MIB, Hal Sparks, Rachel Harris, very funny. *I especially love their commercial in the peach pit for I love the 90's part deux

*can I have the macarana and cheese*

GwG (high pitched voice): Remember the time we had sex together? Wasn't that kind of gross?
Other Guy: We're not blood related so it's okay.
GWG: By the way...what have you and Locke been doing in the woods?
Other Guy: Uhhhhh...

There's this series called "I Love The *insert decade in the 1900's*" and people comment on the decade. *The Modern Humorist is a two-man comedian thing-y...er...ish...


*in a spanish accent* Keh?

what.the.bananas, Mallek?

I <3's Mallek's avie, its so cute

"Kenyaaaaa"

What. The. Bananas. pb101.

I am the only person allowed to use that phrase on the 'Lage!

I cant think of what they would talk about with Boona and Shannon other than their cruel intentions side

How about The Modern Humorist as Jin/Michael and Sun? I'm runnin' low on ideas.

Jin: *yelling jibberish*
Sun: Speak English this is an American show!

I'm sorry theG. I was bored and tired...I promise I won't do it again!

LOL I love how this topic has gone from who we voted for in the election to modern humorists

What can I say? The way the election turned out was pretty funny. :lol2:

Yea, Bush is funny.....I love the "Bush-isms"

Anyone as Locke. GO!

Hal Sparks (gives the stink eye): I am the SHA MAN!!!! *waves hands frantically over his head* I can predict the weather also!!!!!!

MIB: I make boxes. They make me go bald and be confined in a wheelchair. Then I crash and hunt some boar

Dom: *well, just seeing him do anything to be Locke would be funny*

Me: CHEDDAR!


hehehe... id love to see what the modern humorists would say about Bush in I Love the....

'what are the 7 deadly sins?'
MIB: baby ----ing?
someone else: voting Republican?
(other stuff... modern humorist said something, i think)

:lol2:

"I want everybody to hear loud and clear that I am going to be the President of everybody!" - George W Bush

Posts more Bushisms! I lurve 'em like Drew Goddard and the Fat Dutch Boy!

"Fool me once.... shame on... shame on you... fool me.... fool me... the point is I can't be fooled again" -George Bush

BWAHAHWAHAA! Now we're sort of back on topic...ish.

"I earn money to put food on my family!!! ;D"

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Aug. 5, 2004

"You teach a child to read, and he or her will be able to pass a literacy test.'' —George W. Bush, Feb. 21, 2001

"After all, Europe is America's closest ally." —George W. Bush, Mainz, Germany, Feb. 23, 2005

"I hear there's rumors on the Internets that we're going to have a draft." —George W. Bush, second presidential debate, St. Louis, Mo., Oct. 8, 2004

"I'm not the expert on how the Iraqi people think, because I live in America, where it's nice and safe and secure." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Sept. 23, 2004

There's 4 or 5 years worth of bushisms here: http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/blbushisms.htm

:lol2: :roflmao:

Thanks for the link, Star.

No problem I am always here for anything denouncing Bush

"Is our children learning?" This guy is an example of a Child that was Left Behind! :lol2:

"You work three jobs? … Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that." —George W. Bush, to a divorced mother of three, Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

"Is our children learning?" This guy is an example of a Child that was Left Behind! :lol2:


The No Child Left Behind act is so horrible.

And look who it was planned by!? Geez, I could be President of the United States!

I should be President lol....

Peanut you can be Vice

May I be Secretary of State?

If only I were 35! I'd love to see the tabloids if i ran for president:

'Candidate Varda once claimed she can control fire! SATANIST!'

'Candidate Varda reportedly smoked pipeweed: DRUG ADDICT!'

Of course!!!

Now, who is going to assasinate me? *::) Jk...I think

I think Bush and Cheney would assasinate you and me. :lol2:...I think. :-\

:lol2:

They best not mess with us....we're the asian chick and the little asian child from the Grudge (including your cat on the atkins diet?) lol We will scare them out of their wits :)

One of the Bush daughters would.

From what I have heard of them, I'm pretty sure I could spike one of their drinks :lol2:

hehehe!
oh, if Bush had stayed a drunk... how the world would be!

You probably could, Star.

If Bush had stayed drunk, I doubt anything would be different...except he would smile and laugh more often :sick:

Bush already smiles a lot, he reminds me of a little elf :) Such a cute little elf on the outside

More like the leperchaun from those horror movies.

hehehe.... lets throw some shoes at him!

no, Bush wouldn't have been 'told by God' to run for president, and he wouldn't do the fundamentalists favors....

Did bush actually say he was told by God to run for presidency....lol, if thats true, man....I don't even have anything to say if that's true

More like the leperchaun from those horror movies.


I want me gold :lol2:

When Bush was drunk...

Sing with me *the All in the Family theme song tune*

Those were the days!

Gotta study guys....don't flare off without me so I have to read 20 pages of posts when I come back :lol2:

TTYL

Bye, Star! I'll try not to, but...

"Who could have possibly envisioned an erection — an election in Iraq at this point in history?" —George W. Bush, at the white House, Washington, D.C., Jan. 10, 2005

Did he actually say that? Good Goddard, I believe I was still in too much pain from the election to even see his face at that point.

He might've. This is the guy with an IQ of a 10 year old! :lol2:

Bye, Star. We'll (You, me and my cat) will scare Bush and Cheny another time! Maybe we can scare them into getting rid of the No Child Left Behinf policy...and dancing around like monkeys. :lol2:

to be honest I don;t care what happens in Iraq - I am more bothered with the state of my own country -

Politicians are the only people who promise a bridge when there is NO river ;)

Bush is already Cheney's monkey.

Don't insult ten-year olds, pb101! *My two-and-a-half-year old niece is smarter than Bush.

"It's a time of sorrow and sadness when we lose a loss of life." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 21, 2004

Wow...just, wow.

Bush is already Cheney's monkey.

Don't insult ten-year olds, pb101! *My two-and-a-half-year old niece is smarter than Bush.

"It's a time of sorrow and sadness when we lose a loss of life." —George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 21, 2004

Wow...just, wow.


George Dubya Bush is the new Marcus Arelious :lol2:

Does that mean that we have life? Wow, Bush encourages people to die! :lol2:

I have a 7 year old sister who is as smart as Bush.

Older sisters are mean. I'm glad mine aren't as mean as you, pb :P

"Justice ought to be fair." —George W. Bush, speaking at the White House Economic Conference, Washington, D.C., Dec. 15, 2004

I have a dog that is smart as Bush :lol2:

Older sisters are mean. I'm glad mine aren't as mean as you, pb :P

"Justice ought to be fair." —George W. Bush, speaking at the White House Economic Conference, Washington, D.C., Dec. 15, 2004


My little sister would say that Bush is smarter than me so, really, who is meaner? And if there was justice, Bush, you wouldn't be in office!

My dog is much smarter than Bush. He's going to be VP in 2012.

Bush is dumber than a person who thinks he was in Vietnam (sorry Niv if you read this, but oh my god you are such an idiot! no hard feelings... im just right)

Do you guys think Bush stole my $50?

Did Niv actually say that? Wow, what a moron!

theG, seeing as how we're in the hole about a trillion dollars, I wouldn't be surprised if Bush stoleyou're $50.

Sneaky, little leperchaun! >:(

"We thought we were protected forever from trade policy or terrorist attacks because oceans protected us." —George W. Bush, speaking to business leaders at APEC Summit, Santiago, Chile, Nov. 20, 2004

Perhaps I need an ocean to save my money from him...

It certainly didn't save the lady who drowned on LOST. :lol2:

yea, Niv has been brainwashed by Fox News, and I was going to get her to read Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them (great book btw) but my mom lost it! stupid parents...

Sneaky, little leperchaun!* >:(

"We thought we were protected forever from trade policy or terrorist attacks because oceans protected us." —George W. Bush, speaking to business leaders at APEC Summit, Santiago, Chile, Nov. 20, 2004

Perhaps I need an ocean to save my money from him...


yeah terrorist can't fly - can they Mr.Bush :lol2:

That's what I meant. *I am on the island and Bush tries to get my money, but then he pulls a Joanna. *Boone wouldn't try to save him anyway. *Boone's a liberal, you know *:-*

Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them is brilliant! I love the Al Franken Show!

Bush is king of jack sh*t....... and jack left town :lol2:

Al Franken is one of my heroes! im a compulsive liar, but i dont lie about the things those freaks do!

I remember one of the chapters in LATLLWTT was called "You Know Who I Don't Like? Ann Coulter" I lurve that man to pieces.

she is a balistic head case! Niv is an Ann Coulter fan, too! thats the deal, I read the Ann Coulter book (ill be circling every lie I find on my first read) and she'll read Al Franken... man its tough being best friends with a brain-washed Conservative... the torture I'll go through...

I don't know who Niv is, but I do know some pretty conservative folks. Most of them cry when we have debates. It's not like I yell (really loudly) or anything. I think it's because they don't have any arguments (not to say there aren't any--just they don't have any arguments). They have blind faith in stuff because they're told that's what to believe. *shrug* Ignorance really is bliss.

Niv is my best friend in real life, she comes on here every once in awhile. I'm not allowed to go into debates in real life because I get really involved and then they all run and hide...
Her and my friend Maria belive the swift boat lies as well. Now the same people are bashing AARP, and I have no idea how people can still believe them when they asy retired people are for gay marriage and against soldiers. *bangs head against desk*

*bangs head against desk as well* *gets knocked unconcious*

I should probably go to sleep now. I probably won't be able to, and I'll end up coming back on here. Peace out, 'lagers and Varda! Don't post too much without me!

Night Night! tell you brain to shut up about politics and mean it!

ok, im posting in here to get on the topic of politics. After clubbin' all night me and my Grandpa (aka G-unit) crashed with his friends in the Franciscan 3rd order. Twas interesting, there was this pro-life woman who gave a good talk. She showed this tape of when she was on the O'Reilly Factor though, and she didn't bring up that Fox News is faker than the Daily Show, so she got a few points knocked off. I'm gonna stay on the fence with that topic and be hated by both sides, but I don't mind. Then this lady talked about going to Georgia to protest the School of Assasins (or whatever you want to call it). My family wants to go in November and protest. My mom says we aren't going unless I promise not to cross the line. But hey, I'm a rebel, and I'm really pulling for getting my very first arrest at the age of 15. Not sure if they'll put me in prison or not, but if so, I may not be on here much for a few months. Oh, and I'll be highly public about it.

I'll be waiting for it, Varda. I think what a woman does with her baby is her own choice and that's all I'm going to say about that.

ok bout the abortion.

but have you heard about SOA (or WHISC ::) )? big terrorism school at Ft. Benning, Georgia. So, I'm probably heading there in November.... people who cross the line and go onto the property get arrested, and I'm not sure what happens with the minors. I think they are sent home with their parents, though it sure would be nice to get more than that and be able to give them a piece of my mind.

Why would the US allow terrorism schools in the country? What happened to the War on Terror that we're spending billions of dollars on? >:( Stupid Bush...

Oh, its not technically a school for terrorism. Its a school for young men in Latin America to come learn. Just a lot of them tend to go home and massacre, rape, and torture people.

Oh...still! Not good! >:(

Nope. So far the biggest dent that protesters have made is they changed their name of School of the Americas (though really Assasins) to Western Hemisphere Institute for Security Cooperation... hasnt really worked

George Bush has doomed us all!!!

Why would the US allow terrorism schools in the country? What happened to the War on Terror that we're spending billions of dollars on?* >:( Stupid Bush...


The so called 'war on terror' is nothing but a front ot make people think that they are doing something about Osama Bin Laden - But they are not it is all about oil - the war on Iraq was about Oil and nothing else - and they will never ever get Osama Bin Laden because his family owns the largest Oil company in the world

I f there was a real war on terror then Tony Blair would have punched Colonel Gadaffi in the face instead of shaking his hand - And we would have declaired war on Eire for harbouring the IRA and Sien Fein

Darn tootin', Mallek. My mother has a masters degree in Politcal Science, and that's what she's been saying all along. I'd like to think she has some idea of what she's talking about.