Did it strike anyone as odd that young Charlie sounded like he learned to speak in Buckingham Palace, and his father sounded Irish (I think), when they were both supposed to be from Manchester? And Charlie's accent is totally different now? Any Brits who can confirm?

Did it strike anyone as odd that young Charlie sounded like he learned to speak in Buckingham Palace, and his father sounded Irish (I think), when they were both supposed to be from Manchester? And Charlie's accent is totally different now? Any Brits who can confirm?

I'm English and I couldn't stop laughing at posh little Charlie and his dad did sound Irish.

there's maybe a shortage on mancunian child actors. his brother doesn't share his accent, his dad couldn't decide where he was from...

and as for niomi, if i ditched from a helicopter in the middle of the pacific and bumped into someone with a geordie accent similar to my own, i'd have a pretty good idea that they were from newcastle.

but this is lost! suspending belief is part of the deal. lol.

I'm English and yes, the accents were dire in the swimming pool FB. Little Charlie and Liam sounded like princes and their Dad sounded like...I don't even know what accent he was going for. Same as the mum in F+W. They need better accent coaches.

Thank God for Neil Hopkins (Liam). His accent is spot-on.

I'm Irish and I can tell you Charlies oulman had a Scottish Accent

I thought Charlie's dad was purposely doing a (bad) Scottish accent, to make us compare Charlie listening to his dad to Charlie listening to Desmond.

The kids accents were awful though.

...while the monk & Des have strong Glasgow (In Scotland) accents...

it's a Glaswegian accent FTW!

It seemed to me that maybe his mom's side of the family was very affluent, and his dad's was not, and therefore not acceptable. Maybe maternal side tried to hold on to Charlie's mom and the boys for awhile, but the dad's influence was too great, and the Pace family was eventually cut off from the mom's family. That could explain the boys' more refined speech when they were younger, and also the big deal about the ring. (Or should this be in the ring post?)

It's what's called "Upper-Working Class".
These days the "Working Class" often have more disposable cash than the "Upper Class". And besides, if you're intelligent you can go to one of the best schools in the country free of charge anyway.
So it's very common for a child to speak "posh" but have "common" parents. Myself included, I guess.

It's also very in keeping with the fact that they were able to give Charlie Piano Lessons and buy him a piano.

That works. I was adding in to it the idea that they call their ancestor by his first and last name, which makes him sound very important.

there's maybe a shortage on mancunian child actors. ...


IN HAWAII.

I've heard stories that is the issue- there aren't enough extras in Hawaii.

Don

It's what's called "Upper-Working Class".
These days the "Working Class" often have more disposable cash than the "Upper Class". And besides, if you're intelligent you can go to one of the best schools in the country free of charge anyway.
So it's very common for a child to speak "posh" but have "common" parents. Myself included, I guess.

It's also very in keeping with the fact that they were able to give Charlie Piano Lessons and buy him a piano.

Very good point...only these days, in modern teen culture in England, it would be considered very "uncool" to speak with a posh "public school" accent when most if not all your mates sound like the cast of "Coronation Street"...Even if they were educated in the best school in Manchester, they still would have, at best, a "good" Mancunian accent...probably not the "stage" English accent that the American actor playing young Charlie affected?

The father's accent was Mancunian/Irish...not that unusual really, as Manchester has a huge ex pat Irish population and he might've been raised in an Irish household in Manchester? But considering the actor portraying Charlie's dad is Canadian, I suspect its just a dodgey accent!!

Well, by all indications, I guess they've pretty much run out of local actors who can do a plausible British accent. And I'd assume they'll have plenty more parts over the next three years requiring one. I'd say for any aspiring British actors, it might be a good time to move to Hawaii!

I don't know why but it was obvious to me from the outset what the intention was, Charlies dad had an Irish accent (okay i know a pretty terrible one, but that was the intention anyhow). This follows on from the Oasis connection, Oasis are from Irish decent. Many irish families moved to England throughout the 60's/70's and settled in the Liverpool / Manchester area. It seems fairly straightforward given the Oasis connection that Charlie is the son of Irish migrants.

As for Charlies posh southern accent he had as a kid, it is very possible that the family spent time in London while he was young. After all it is only a few hundred miles and families (esp Irish migrants looking for work) often move around England rather than staying in the same place, they may have settled in manchester when Charlie was a little older.

My parents are Irish and we grew up a quite a few places around England, i speak with a weird mixed up accent that does not sound like it came from anywhere while my brother somehow managed to keep a strong Cork accent.

So while the accents sound bad, there are plenty of people in the UK that do have similar weird accents. Not everyone fits into a neat little box with a label on it.

The father's accent was Mancunian/Irish...not that unusual really, as Manchester has a huge ex pat Irish population and he might've been raised in an Irish household in Manchester?

So, you're saying an Irishman who's moved to Manchester is an ex-Pat?

I cant believe how bad some of the accents are in Lost. Im from the UK and its awful to listen to some of them. Desmonds scottish keeps slipping into american but i dont think Charlie's is too bad. But Charlies dad was a mix of all British accents put into one lol it was quite funny !

It's what's called "Upper-Working Class".
These days the "Working Class" often have more disposable cash than the "Upper Class". And besides, if you're intelligent you can go to one of the best schools in the country free of charge anyway.
So it's very common for a child to speak "posh" but have "common" parents. Myself included, I guess.

It's also very in keeping with the fact that they were able to give Charlie Piano Lessons and buy him a piano.

They just got the accents wrong.... I can't do an American accent without it sounding Canadian.

Desmonds scottish keeps slipping into american but i dont think Charlie's is too bad.

The actors are British. I don't think they're affecting accents for the show, but using their own.

As for the Pace family, the kid actors are American and the father is Canadian. I think they were just struggling with the concept of a Mancunian accent vs. the stereotypical posh accent.

So, you're saying an Irishman who's moved to Manchester is an ex-Pat?

As in "expatriate"..."a person living outside their native country"...nothing to do with "Pat" being an Irish name!