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is land
05-24-2007, 04:44 PM
I thought that it was interesting that two of the main characters tried to commit suicide in the last episode. Both were "distracted" by the need to help/ rescue something or someone. Just a thought.

I thought it was interesting that two if the main characters attempted suicide in this episode. They were both "interupted" by the need to help/rescue someone or something. Any thoughts?

WannaGetLost
05-24-2007, 04:56 PM
Yeah! Why did Locke seem to lose his faith in the island until Walt appeared??? I figured that since he just saw/heard Jacob, he'd want to find out what was up with that. So did Walt have something to do with Locke being able to move his legs again? Or just when he told him he had work to do, he pulled it together, got his faith back, and then could walk out of the skeleton pit?
As for Jack, he must have just realized he was a loser. About time! just kidding... he was good this epi.

wonkavator
05-24-2007, 08:19 PM
who was the second person?

JodoKast1221
05-24-2007, 08:21 PM
who was the second person?

Locke was interupted by Walt!

belshep
05-24-2007, 08:22 PM
who was the second person?

Jack (on the bridge) and Locke (in the pit).

sk8
05-24-2007, 08:23 PM
Two suicide attempts? I think we had more:
Jack
Locke
Sayid
Sawyer
Juliet
Desmond
Hurley
Mikhail
Charlie
Am I missing someone?

wonkavator
05-24-2007, 08:23 PM
thats right, sorry. I guess I didn't really consider that suicide as he surely thought he was going to die anyway, he was just ending the suffering.

Herk
05-24-2007, 08:42 PM
Two suicide attempts? I think we had more:
Jack
Locke
Sayid
Sawyer
Juliet
Desmond
Hurley
Mikhail
Charlie
Am I missing someone?

Don't confuse suicide with risking your life for others....

As for Mikhail, he can't commit suicide, he can't die.

THE BLUE
05-25-2007, 11:27 AM
Unluckily for us, Charlie succeeded.:frown: :frown: :mad:

lostlocke
05-25-2007, 11:34 AM
Yeah! Why did Locke seem to lose his faith in the island until Walt appeared??? I figured that since he just saw/heard Jacob, he'd want to find out what was up with that. So did Walt have something to do with Locke being able to move his legs again? Or just when he told him he had work to do, he pulled it together, got his faith back, and then could walk out of the skeleton pit?
As for Jack, he must have just realized he was a loser. About time! just kidding... he was good this epi.
Locke was understandably lost, for lack of a better word!!! He had been shot, his legs were paralyzed and he was in a ditch. In rough shape, if you ask me. I think that's why he reached for his gun. At that point he was totally hopeless. then Walt appeared and restored his faith. I'm not so sure about his legs though, whether Locke himself had something to do with his legs working again, or some higher power.
As for Jack, when he heard the crash of the cars, that's when he got down and rescued the people. He seemed so despondent and different from the self assured righteous guy he is on the island. My sis felt bad for him, I did to a certain point to I guess but I wasn't overly sympathetic to Jack.

Tom_Zarek
05-25-2007, 11:55 AM
Locke was understandably lost, for lack of a better word!!! He had been shot, his legs were paralyzed and he was in a ditch. In rough shape, if you ask me. I think that's why he reached for his gun. At that point he was totally hopeless. then Walt appeared and restored his faith. I'm not so sure about his legs though, whether Locke himself had something to do with his legs working again, or some higher power.

Thinking about it after the episode it was kind of understandable but I don't think that they did a good job with that scene. All of the sudden we were there, he can't use his legs, then he sees the gun, grabs it and brings it to his head. We haven't seen him for an episode and all of a sudden we're supposed to be engrossed in his situation? Especially when we've only seen him in this ditch for 30 seconds? I think this was an uncharacteristicly poorly done scene. And that's just too bad that Jack didn't jump off that bridge but at least I can take solace in the fact that he was in a definite downward spiral. I wonder if he's as stuck in his fate as Charlie is I mean was.:sob:

annieone
05-29-2007, 03:07 PM
Two suicide attempts and one sucessfull suicide: Charlie's

Clerks
05-29-2007, 03:12 PM
I don't really consider Charlie a suicide- sure, maybe by defination that's what he did, but it was a sacrifice.

He'd never imagine taking his own life and loves Claire and Aaron, but in order for them to be safe, he HAD to sacrifice his own life.

I dunno, suicide sounds dark and depressing- whereas Charlie was heroic and noble.

rabidranger
05-29-2007, 03:43 PM
There were actually three attempted or actual suicides referenced:

Jack
Locke
The mystery man in the obit

dirty_pool
05-29-2007, 04:27 PM
I don't really consider Charlie a suicide- sure, maybe by defination that's what he did, but it was a sacrifice.

He'd never imagine taking his own life and loves Claire and Aaron, but in order for them to be safe, he HAD to sacrifice his own life.

I dunno, suicide sounds dark and depressing- whereas Charlie was heroic and noble.

Absolutely. Suicide and sacrifice are two very different things. Charlie did not have a death-wish. Jack and Locke did, although Locke's was not from depression.

HeadFirstForHalos
05-30-2007, 04:30 AM
There were actually three attempted or actual suicides referenced:

Jack
Locke
The mystery man in the obit

I had totally forgotten about that dude.