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lzmilo
07-02-2007, 10:11 AM
I'm rewatching all of the lost seasons and noticed something that Jack said to Rose in this episode (season 1). He brought her water and then sat next to her for a while....and finally Rose started to talk to him. He then said something like, "we're all dead as of three days ago, so we all have a fresh start if we want it." The quote might not be his exact words....but pretty close. Isn't it wierd that he would say something like this on day 3? It's almost like he remembers that they found the plane (which wasn't revealed until season 3!) and there were no survivors. This is making me very suspicious that this isn't the first time he's been on this island. Any thoughts??:cool:

Holz0311
07-02-2007, 11:16 AM
lzmilo- Welcome to the fuselage :biggrin:

Yeah i think your right, i mean in his flashforwards he's always on about getting back but if he had been there before then why would he be so desperate to leave in season 3, i mean season 1 he's not that botherd and it's his idea they move inland, so hmmm i think i'd be more suseptable to the idea if there was slightly more evidence, but i guess we'll have to wait for future seasons for that. :)

x x x

lzmilo
07-03-2007, 07:37 AM
Thanks for the warm welcome! If I find any more evidence I'll let ya know. we'll have to wait waaaay too long for the next sesason. :( I love LOST!

the exiled
07-03-2007, 08:51 AM
I'm rewatching all of the lost seasons and noticed something that Jack said to Rose in this episode (season 1). He brought her water and then sat next to her for a while....and finally Rose started to talk to him. He then said something like, "we're all dead as of three days ago, so we all have a fresh start if we want it." The quote might not be his exact words....but pretty close. Isn't it wierd that he would say something like this on day 3? It's almost like he remembers that they found the plane (which wasn't revealed until season 3!) and there were no survivors. This is making me very suspicious that this isn't the first time he's been on this island. Any thoughts??:cool:

I'm rewatching seasons 1 & 2 now & will be in line to purchase 3 when released just to find those missed clues such as the one above. As I heard Jacks comment this time I realized how different the story is for me, viewing it for what is now my 3rd time. Knowing what I know about future shows shapes my perception when I review the previous show. Just as a time traveller might if he was sent back to relive a past experience. My experience became tha same as Desmends in the time travel/loop theory. Now I'm looking at events to see if indeed Jack will show some fore knowledge of events to happen & does he act with a purpose that will be revealed. The comment above could indicate knowledge of Naomi's statement & the secret of how both realities could be true.

workingmom
07-04-2007, 10:35 AM
I'm rewatching all of the lost seasons and noticed something that Jack said to Rose in this episode (season 1). He brought her water and then sat next to her for a while....and finally Rose started to talk to him. He then said something like, "we're all dead as of three days ago, so we all have a fresh start if we want it." The quote might not be his exact words....but pretty close. Isn't it wierd that he would say something like this on day 3? It's almost like he remembers that they found the plane (which wasn't revealed until season 3!) and there were no survivors. This is making me very suspicious that this isn't the first time he's been on this island. Any thoughts??:cool:
Welcome to the Fuse, izmilo! :) I suppose that statement looks different after hearing Naomi's story. I think in context, though, Jack was speaking metaphorically. He was talking to Kate (not Rose, by the way) in response to her saying she wanted to tell him why she had a mugshot. "3 days ago we all died" was a way of saying that crashing on an island with no sign of rescue so far meant that they all had to start their lives over in this new place, and what she did back home to make her a criminal didn't matter here. After all, three days is a long time for a concerted rescue effort to turn up anything in the middle of the Pacific, especially when they would have been looking 1000 miles in the wrong place.

Jack Sawyer
07-04-2007, 11:42 AM
Hey guys, for someone who's only on Season 1, following along in the forums, alot of what you guys are talking about should really be put in spoiler font. I know if I was back in Season 1, then read this stuff, id be really disappointed. Just a heads up.

workingmom
07-04-2007, 01:20 PM
Hey guys, for someone who's only on Season 1, following along in the forums, alot of what you guys are talking about should really be put in spoiler font. I know if I was back in Season 1, then read this stuff, id be really disappointed. Just a heads up.
I think the mods have said that after an episode has aired, there is no need for spoiler font, even in threads pertaining to earlier episodes. Since Season 2 has aired worldwide and Season 3 has aired in much of the world already, it's sort of up to you to avoid newer posts if you want to remain unspoiled for Season 1. Have fun catching up though - it's worth it! :)

lzmilo
07-05-2007, 11:53 AM
Hopefully I'm following spoiler rules....I believe it's up to 3 days after the episode airs, everything in that episode must be spoiler fonted. This epi (and the season 3 epi) aired a lot longer than 3 days ago. But I'm new to this board & don't want to upset anyone!! I'm getting further into season 1 and I'm very suspicious of Jack and now especially Locke! I'm keeping my eyes & ears on both of them. It's funny how you look at the show differently when you go back to the first few seasons, after seeing season 3. I'll probably watch all the seasons at least 3 times & hopefully the new one will air. :biggrin:

Starrox
07-14-2007, 01:09 PM
Hey guys, for someone who's only on Season 1, following along in the forums, alot of what you guys are talking about should really be put in spoiler font. I know if I was back in Season 1, then read this stuff, id be really disappointed. Just a heads up.

I think the mods have said that after an episode has aired, there is no need for spoiler font, even in threads pertaining to earlier episodes. Since Season 2 has aired worldwide and Season 3 has aired in much of the world already, it's sort of up to you to avoid newer posts if you want to remain unspoiled for Season 1. Have fun catching up though - it's worth it! :)

workingmom is right, once an episode has aired posters don't have to use spoilerfont anymore. This is a bit unfortunate if major (future) plot points are revealed in older threads, of course, but there is no way we could prevent that from happening without reading every single post and spoilerfonting it if necessary. I think you can imagine that doing this is out of the question for a number of reasons!
The only advice I can give posters catching up on the show now is to avoid newer threads in the episode sections until they have seen the complete third season since they are much more likely to contain "spoilers" than the older threads. :undecide:

Hopefully I'm following spoiler rules....I believe it's up to 3 days after the episode airs, everything in that episode must be spoiler fonted. This epi (and the season 3 epi) aired a lot longer than 3 days ago. But I'm new to this board & don't want to upset anyone!!

The 3 day rule only applies to the Linear Board (LB), not to the Threaded Board (TB). On the TB, spoiler font does not have to be used anymore once the episode has aired on the East Coast.

Jack Sawyer
07-16-2007, 10:04 AM
workingmom is right, once an episode has aired posters don't have to use spoilerfont anymore. This is a bit unfortunate if major (future) plot points are revealed in older threads, of course, but there is no way we could prevent that from happening without reading every single post and spoilerfonting it if necessary. I think you can imagine that doing this is out of the question for a number of reasons!
The only advice I can give posters catching up on the show now is to avoid newer threads in the episode sections until they have seen the complete third season since they are much more likely to contain "spoilers" than the older threads. :undecide:



The 3 day rule only applies to the Linear Board (LB), not to the Threaded Board (TB). On the TB, spoiler font does not have to be used anymore once the episode has aired on the East Coast.

That's a shame. Well, I stand corrected. Just glad Im up to date with the show or these boards would be worthless to me, for fear of the spoilers.

Starrox
07-16-2007, 10:47 AM
To be honest, I think this is not nearly as big of a problem as you seem to think it is! :shrug: There are dozens, no, several hundreds of threads in the episode section and the vast majority of them don't contain information on newer episodes, especially the threads here in the Season 1-section. As long as people stay away from the most recent threads or posts, they should be fairly save from "spoilers", I'd say.

Jack Sawyer
07-16-2007, 02:27 PM
Absolutely. I guess I'm just anal when it comes to spoilers.:ohwell: I dont want to know anything (like they found the plane in Season 3 and they're all "dead," when im watching the third episode of the entire show).

It's all a matter of perspective, i guess. Now I'll mind my own business. :)

1dimpleonly
07-23-2007, 10:35 PM
Part of what I noticed when rewatching TR:

Locke is seen trying to reason with the guide for the Walkabout, while sitting in his wheelchair.

The guide tells Locke that he cannot go with them because of his disability, and Locke responds, "I'm supposed to do this".

Another repeating theme for Locke, is his continual use of this phrase,.."Don't tell me what I can't do!"....because he turns around and does it!

The above "supposed" (to) theme is indicative of what Locke said, in Season 3, finale, when he uses that very word to tell Jack that he was not supposed to do this,...i.e. use the sat phone to call the ship.

This "supposed" (to) theme is one of the mounting clues to some kind of time loop, dimensional rift, time arcing back on itself, or even precognition, and Locke seems to be familiar with each scenario, and the outcomes.

sebby
07-24-2007, 12:05 AM
Also I think its Season 1 Ep3 or 4 where Locke is going to go out to kill the wild boars. Kate has her backpack and is ready to go with Locke - Jack says something like you are a boar hunter now, be careful you know what's out there! Kate says actually I dont and neither do you. Is this a reminder that they have to act like they don't know whats out there with the other Losties.

Just a thought!

workingmom
07-25-2007, 08:06 PM
Also I think its Season 1 Ep3 or 4 where Locke is going to go out to kill the wild boars. Kate has her backpack and is ready to go with Locke - Jack says something like you are a boar hunter now, be careful you know what's out there! Kate says actually I dont and neither do you. Is this a reminder that they have to act like they don't know whats out there with the other Losties.

Just a thought!
Just as easily it means that they don't know what the monster looks like; they only saw that the pilot was killed by it (and they couldn't even see his wounds since he was face up in a tree) and they knew what it sounded like. So they really didn't know what it was. (and still don't!)