This theory is based on the motion picture Donnie Darko (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0246578).

When I started watching Lost, I noticed it has plenty of parallels to this movie.
For example:
The books Sawyer is reading: Watership Down and A Wrinkle in Time. In D.D., Watership Down is read, viewed as a film and discussed in class. The movie also features a bunch of rabbit references. Basically, D.D. is about time travel, hence A Wrinkle in Time.
The term Deus Ex Machina. Donnie Darko learns of this expression through his teacher in a Watership Down-discussion. When attacked at Grandma Death's house, he also whispers it.
Airplanes suddenly falling from the sky. Donnie is killed by a jet engine from the future flight of his mother and little sister.
Controlling ones destiny. Fate.
Manipulating people to make the right choices, and in that way save the universe (in Lost-perspective; solving the great mysteries of the island).
Donnie Darko sees Frank, the giant bunny rabbit, which in fact is a real person he has killed in the future (a Manipulated Dead). In Lost, Jack sees his father which is supposed to be dead.
Numbers. Donnie writes 28:06:42:12 on his arm (time left until the world will end). 4 8 15 16 23 42 is written on the side of the hatch-entrance.
Grandma Death (Roberta Sparrow) whispers to Donnie: "Every single creature on this earth dies alone."
Jack says to the rest of the group: "... But if we can't live together, we're going to die alone."

The focus on eyes. Almost every episode of Lost opens with a closeup of someones eye. Same thing happens when Donnie wakes up at night. He also stabs Frank in the eye. Locke said he had seen into the eye of the island.

At the end of a song featured in the D.D.-soundtrack, Tears for Fears - Head Over Heals, they mention the mind's eye.
This is what Locke is explaining to Walt when he teaches him how to throw knives.


I would say that John Locke is the Donnie Darko type character of Lost (the Living Receiver), the one with great innsight, curiosity and wisdom. D.D. is based on a fictive book entitled The Philosophy of Time Travel (http://www.tangent-universe.org/dump/time_travel.html).
It states the following:
"The Living Receiver is often blessed with Fourth Dimensional Powers. These include increased strength, telekinesis, mind control, and the ability to conjure fire and water."
It almost seems that Locke can control the rain (water), Locke knew it was Walt who burned the fleet up (fire), he is skilled at convincing people (mind control), he can suddenly walk (increased strength), and he in some way communicated with the "monster" (telekinesis).

Donnie Darko being the Living Receiver means that he is somehow controlled by something in the future called Deus Ex Machina, and his mission is to stop the universe from imploding and the world to end. ...As most of you know, the next episode goes by the name Deus Ex Machina, and is about Locke...
:smiling:


For those of you want to go deeper into Donnie Darko, here is a good fan-site:
http://ruinedeye.com/cd/



Any feedback? Hope I'm not over-analyzing this... :unsure:

Edit: More similarities

Wow that is interesting. At the very least it made me want to see Donnie Darko now. This goes back to the debate though between what is psuedo-science and just plain sci-fi. I think anyone that has the ability to use telekinesis and conjure up fire and water is defintely in the sci-fi realm, which I could be wrong but thought the writers have said is not the case for this show. It is still an interesting theory though.

To Thinkagain

I agree if nothing else I want to read Donnie Darko... But I also agree with what was said about Locke and the mind reading or control(whatever). He definitely knows more then he is telling us.

I also want to add I have a topic about separate dimonsions that you must have read because you wrote to me with in the topic and sent me this site. I was wondering what you thought about what I had said, and if what I said rang a bell with the whole Donnie Darko (I mean do they seem to fit together?)? Thanks


http://www.thefuselage.com/threaded/index.php?topic=9849.0;topicseen

Donnie Darko sees Frank, the giant bunny rabbit, which in fact is a real person he has killed in the future (a Manipulated Dead). In Lost, Jack sees his father which is supposed to be dead.


That's weird. I had a theory that the "monster" is a pookah, like Harvey.

....attracted to crackpots and rumpots and how are you Mr. Wilson?

......just kidding


Actually, when you think about it, isn't this what Sawyer's boar is also?
I just find myself wondering if this isn't a nod to Donnie Darko. There have been a lot of passing nods to other work in this show. I'm hoping the writers will be a little more original with the show than to reuse a premise from something else. I hope I'm not disappointed.

shootfire

N.E.R.D. #12

This theory is based on the motion picture Donnie Darko (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0246578).

When I started watching Lost, I noticed it has plenty of parallels to this movie.
For example:
The books Sawyer is reading: Watership Down and A Wrinkle in Time. In D.D., Watership Down is read, viewed as a film and discussed in class. The movie also features a bunch of rabbit references. Basically, D.D. is about time travel, hence A Wrinkle in Time.
The term Deus Ex Machina. Donnie Darko learns of this expression through his teacher in a Watership Down-discussion. When attacked at Grandma Death's house, he also whispers it.
Airplanes suddenly falling from the sky. Donnie is killed by a jet engine from the future flight of his mother and little sister.
Controlling ones destiny. Fate.
Manipulating people to make the right choices, and in that way save the universe (in Lost-perspective; solving the great mysteries of the island).
Donnie Darko sees Frank, the giant bunny rabbit, which in fact is a real person he has killed in the future (a Manipulated Dead). In Lost, Jack sees his father which is supposed to be dead.
Numbers. Donnie writes 28:06:42:12 on his arm (time left until the world will end). 4 8 15 16 23 42 is written on the side of the hatch-entrance.
Grandma Death (Roberta Sparrow) whispers to Donnie: "Every single creature on this earth dies alone."
Jack says to the rest of the group: "... But if we can't live together, we're going to die alone."

The focus on eyes. Almost every episode of Lost opens with a closeup of someones eye. Same thing happens when Donnie wakes up at night. He also stabs Frank in the eye. Locke said he had seen into the eye of the island.

At the end of a song featured in the D.D.-soundtrack, Tears for Fears - Head Over Heals, they mention the mind's eye.
This is what Locke is explaining to Walt when he teaches him how to throw knives.


I would say that John Locke is the Donnie Darko type character of Lost (the Living Receiver), the one with great innsight, curiosity and wisdom. D.D. is based on a fictive book entitled The Philosophy of Time Travel (http://www.tangent-universe.org/dump/time_travel.html).
It states the following:
"The Living Receiver is often blessed with Fourth Dimensional Powers. These include increased strength, telekinesis, mind control, and the ability to conjure fire and water."
It almost seems that Locke can control the rain (water), Locke knew it was Walt who burned the fleet up (fire), he is skilled at convincing people (mind control), he can suddenly walk (increased strength), and he in some way communicated with the "monster" (telekinesis).

Donnie Darko being the Living Receiver means that he is somehow controlled by something in the future called Deus Ex Machina, and his mission is to stop the universe from imploding and the world to end. ...As most of you know, the next episode goes by the name Deus Ex Machina, and is about Locke...
:smiling:


For those of you want to go deeper into Donnie Darko, here is a good fan-site:
http://ruinedeye.com/cd/



Any feedback? Hope I'm not over-analyzing this... :unsure:

Edit: More similarities
Hmmm... I don't know.

First of all, I think you're mixing up telekenesis and telepathy. Locke certainly doesn't have telekenisis. And the power over fire you mention is a bit of a stretch. And how does Locke control the rain?

A lot of these similarities are just that - similarities. What conclusion are you trying to draw here? Plenty of other films make reference to Watership Down, or 'eyes', or feature a countdown, or numbers, or mention Deus Ex Machina. Outside of that, what do Donnie Darko and LOST have to do with one another? Basically, ok, there are some shared phrases or concepts, but ... so what? What are you getting at?

The whole point of Donnie Darko (IMO) was to show that Donnie was offered a choice - to die from a falling plane engine, or to avoid it, thereby causing the eventual death of his girlfriend. In the end, Donnie chooses to die and save the girl. Are you suggesting Locke is being presented with a choice, and what we're seeing now is a result of his choice, and that eventually we'll see him being offered the choice again (in the past), and witness his choosing the alternate path, because of what he has seen will happen already should he choose the original path?

Donnie Darko is incredibly difficult to wrap one's head around. It's a great movie, with lots of interesting premises, and plenty of gaping plot-holes, but I'm really not sure it has anything more than passing similarities in phrases to LOST.

Good movie, though.

Hmm...
You are probably right about the similarities I noticed just being tributes to others work.
However, there are quite a few of them... :stuart:

Well, I didn't say Locke is controlling the weather, it's just a little odd how he can predict it so well. And how it suddenly stopped when Michael was going to look for Vincent. I see how the controlling fire can be a far stretch though... But how can we explain Locke's encounter with the "monster"?

About the telekinesis, yeah, I mixed it up. But, if Locke had those powers, he could have brought the plane down. I occurs to me that he and Walt are the only two people who actually enjoys staying at the island. Locke finally gets to forfill his fate, and go on the walkabout. He was very clear on it being his destiny.

first of all hello everyone!
but i'd like to elaborate on this theory.
deus ex machina means god of the machine. it is a subtext in a piece of philosophy called human understanding, by JOHN LOCKE. it is about the need of leaders for organisation, to prevent descent into chaos. it was written in the 1600's, so i can't really fathom the machine reference- but think about it - is locke (the one in lost) the god of the machine,(assuming the monster is mechanical) because he managed to stare it in the face and survive.
there is also some work of a similar topic by Jean-Jaques ROUSSEAU.
in my opinion, these names are'nt coincidence, because these are the most knowledgable on the island, and locke has a great deal of HUMAN UNDERSTANDING.
i don't know if anyone has covered this 'cos i'm a newbie, but i found this thread via google, and i thought this was relevent