View Full Version : Danielle Rousseau helped Naomi escape
Ironflak 02-03-2008, 10:56 PM We have come to refer to Danielle Rousseau as the "French woman." Many have assumed that she came from France. I now believe that Rousseau may in fact be French-CANADIAN. Throughout this series, we have heard various people refer to Canada.
So far, everyone who has claimed to be from Canada has been a liar. Kate, calling herself "Annie," told the Australian farmer, Ray, that she was from Canada. Ethan Rom told Hurley that he was from Ontario, Canada. Nathan, the Tailie that Ana-Lucia threw into a pit, claimed he was from Canada. Nathan was venturing into the jungle for hours on end, which led to Ana-Lucia not trusting him. Nathan never came clean on what he was doing alone in the jungle. Mikhail Bakunin told Bonnie and Greta that he thought they were on assignment in Canada. What is up with Canada?
In "Solitary," Danielle told Sayid that she was part of a scientific expedition that set out from Tahiti. Was her team part of the organization that sent the freighter that is now near the island? Did she pull the knife out of Naomi's back and deliberately lead Jack on a false trail to allow her colleague, Naomi, to escape? Before Naomi's disappearance, Danielle was standing near the tree where Ben is tied up. After she hits Ben, we see her start to walk toward Alex. Naomi's body at this time was in between Danielle's position and Alex's position. Did she take that opportunity to help Naomi escape?
There is obviously a lot about Danielle that has not been revealed to us yet. Is her connection to these freighter people part of her mystery?
beema 02-03-2008, 11:03 PM I thought that Rousseau dragged her body off too initially when I saw that scene.
Fogey 02-03-2008, 11:05 PM Minor correction - set out from Tahiti (which is quite a ways from Fiji)
Tahiti is French so I think she could be French.
Eight 02-03-2008, 11:09 PM We have come to refer to Danielle Rousseau as the "French woman." Many have assumed that she came from France. I now believe that Rousseau may in fact be French-CANADIAN. Throughout this series, we have heard various people refer to Canada.
So far, everyone who has claimed to be from Canada has been a liar. Kate, calling herself "Annie," told the Australian farmer, Ray, that she was from Canada. Ethan Rom told Hurley that he was from Ontario, Canada. Nathan, the Tailie that Ana-Lucia threw into a pit, claimed he was from Canada. Nathan was venturing into the jungle for hours on end, which led to Ana-Lucia not trusting him. Nathan never came clean on what he was doing alone in the jungle. Mikhail Bakunin told Bonnie and Greta that he thought they were on assignment in Canada. What is up with Canada?
In "Solitary," Danielle told Sayid that she was part of a scientific expedition that set out from Fiji. Was her team part of the organization that sent the freighter that is now near the island? Did she pull the knife out of Naomi's back and deliberately lead Jack on a false trail to allow her colleague, Naomi, to escape? Before Naomi's disappearance, Danielle was standing near the tree where Ben is tied up. After she hits Ben, we see her start to walk toward Alex. Naomi's body at this time was in between Danielle's position and Alex's position. Did she take that opportunity to help Naomi escape?
There is obviously a lot about Danielle that has not been revealed to us yet. Is her connection to these freighter people part of her mystery?
You're right in that we have heard alot of Canada and it ties in perfectly with my North Pole theory.
I disagree about some things you've said though:
First, we don't know that either Nathan or Ethan were lying about being from Canada. Nathan was an innocent bystander who was falsely accused and most likely was from Canada.
Second, Naomi is NOT a colleague of Danielle's. Naomi would probably have been in her early teens (probably younger) when Danielle's expedition set sail. I have no doubt that Danielle is as surprised by her arrival as many others are.
Lastly, I doubt that Danielle would waste her time by helping Naomi escape knowing Kate would find her anyway.
theoryguy 02-04-2008, 12:16 AM Danielle is definitely not with the Freighter crew...but it seems she is in on some sort of plan with Ben. The way he spoke to her when he asked her to 'dissapear' with Alex before the freighties landed was way too casual for people who may have been meeting for the first time. I'm sure they have a past together and I'm looking forward to discovering exactly how they are connected.
Clochard 02-04-2008, 01:21 AM Geeze! I think you'll have a lot of angry Canadians (myself included) if the litmus test for deciding if someone is lying, is figuring out if they're from Canada!
Nate Schamp 02-04-2008, 02:46 AM Geeze! I think you'll have a lot of angry Canadians (myself included) if the litmus test for deciding if someone is lying, is figuring out if they're from Canada!
But you would say that, you lying Canadian! :biggrin:
Ironflak 02-04-2008, 04:34 AM Please. I mean no disrespect to real humans who are from Canada. My original post correctly states that of all the *characters* on the TV show called "Lost," each one who has claimed to be from Canada has lied by severely misrepresenting who they are. (Goodwin said he killed Nathan because Nathan was a "bad person." Nathan would disappear for hours on end, saying that he was going to the bathroom. Obviously not true.) I am talking about information that has been presented to us viewers by the TV show itself. I am not making a judgment on real human beings who are from the real-world country known as Canada.
And I am not suggesting that Danielle personally knows Naomi, just putting forth the theory that they perhaps work for the same organization. Danielle was on a science expedition. Who was she working for? What kind of scientist is she? Was she a scientist at all, or was she a non-scientist pregnant wife (or girlfriend) of a scientist (Robert)? Why was a woman who was seven months pregnant traveling by boat on a scientific expedition? Was the goal of the expedition to get her to Lost Island so she could be the control case in fertility experiments, ala Claire? Why does Ben talk to her as if he knows her?
Liplocked 02-04-2008, 06:59 AM Ack - the OP makes a valid observation; and our writers aren't without humour. I rather like the idea of a chourus of # Blame Canada - I may start a rumour there are new characters called Terrance and Phillip. ;) (that was a Mod wink - I AM joking)
Danielle assisting Naomi works for me if Mdm. Rousseau wants to protect the Island: she may - mistakenly is Ben is right about how dangerous the new comers are - believe, that once they are ashore she can kill them.
'out there' they post a continuing threat - but dead, they send a very clear message to anyone else who might come:
Don't.
She's killed before and the woman's a bit nuts, so... *shrug* Then again...
Who she is and what she's about is still a mystery - she may want someone to come to the Island but only if they're the right someone. Naomi may have told her something useful.
....what team is Danielle on again? lol. Go Team Locke! in any case. :biggrin: I can't do this conspiracy stuff any more - my head wont keep up with my imagination.
axpo23 02-04-2008, 08:08 AM Danielle is definitely not with the Freighter crew...but it seems she is in on some sort of plan with Ben. The way he spoke to her when he asked her to 'dissapear' with Alex before the freighties landed was way too casual for people who may have been meeting for the first time. I'm sure they have a past together and I'm looking forward to discovering exactly how they are connected.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Danielle did know who Ben was. He did, afterall, take her daughter (or at least someone from his camp did).
wanders01 02-04-2008, 08:17 AM Danielle knows Ben....she captured him when he was playing Henry Gale. Perhaps the capture wasn't as it seemed.:eek2:
Buck Dharma 02-04-2008, 01:35 PM I think it was no coincidence that all 3 women vanished at the same time. There's definitely a lot more to the relationship between Danielle and Ben than we know.
Clochard 02-04-2008, 01:53 PM But you would say that, you lying Canadian! :biggrin:
Aww! You got me!
Ironflak 02-04-2008, 03:30 PM Notice how Danielle Rousseau's and Naomi Dorrit's clothes are strikingly similar? I believe they are from the same company. Danielle came to the island 16 years ago as part of a scientific expedition. She told Sayid that her crew heard a distress signal that was broadcasting the numbers and they turned toward the signal. Next thing they knew, they ran aground and became marooned on the island.
Naomi was looking for the island because, as she claimed, Penny Widmore gave them coordinates to what appeared to be the middle of the bloody ocean. She was scouting when the clouds parted and she saw the island. Her helicopter malfunctioned and she parachuted out. If she weren't able to get the sat phone working and if the Looking Glass didn't stop blocking signals, she would have been marooned on the island just like Danielle was.
It is clear that Naomi works for a company that has a lot of money behind it. She has equipment that is so sophisticated that Sayid, a man who worked in the military, remarks that he had never seen such advanced equipment. It seems to me that Naomi is also part of a "scientific expedition," perhaps from the same source that funded Rousseau's expedition.
Danielle says in "Solitary" that she has never seen another person on the island, but that she hears them. She hears their whispers. She claims that Sayid is the first person she has seen on the island outside of her crew that she killed. This is why she thinks Sayid is an "Other" at first. Of course, she could be lying, or insane, or both.
Charmedfreak 02-04-2008, 07:51 PM Danielle is definitely not with the Freighter crew...but it seems she is in on some sort of plan with Ben. The way he spoke to her when he asked her to 'dissapear' with Alex before the freighties landed was way too casual for people who may have been meeting for the first time. I'm sure they have a past together and I'm looking forward to discovering exactly how they are connected.
I agree, there words together, seem to make it like they have had a past together, she did afterall capture Ben in a net. I still dont believe it was just wrong time/wrong place that Ben got captured, unless he was on his way to get Locke like he said.
But theres indeed alot more to explore with Danielle/Ben, I really hope they do another Other48Days type episode focusing on Danielle/Ben/Alex and the timeline then. That whole story is worth the 48Days type episode, they could call it the other16years. lol
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Danielle did know who Ben was. He did, afterall, take her daughter (or at least someone from his camp did).
She captured him in One Of Them, so surely she spoke words to him then, but I dont know if she knew it was Ben who took her, but it seemed like she did.
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