View Full Version : Science Geeks, I know you're out there!! (geeks, not necessarily theorists)
baner17 03-16-2005, 02:53 AM Ok, thought I might start a thread for one of my own personal interests...that of science
I know theres at least a few of you I've seen who have shown the geeky side on occasion, but I know there must be more!!! :)
Note: keep this thread clean of theories, I want it to be about my (and I hope others') love of science
Templeton 03-16-2005, 04:01 AM Ok, thought I might start a thread for one of my own personal interests...that of science
I know theres at least a few of you I've seen who have shown the geeky side on occasion, but I know there must be more!!! :)
Note: keep this thread clean of theories, I want it to be about my (and I hope others') love of science
Right there with you.
Templeton
baner17 03-16-2005, 01:55 PM Had in inkling you'd show up, T
WhiteSapphire 03-16-2005, 01:59 PM *raises hand*
I like science.
Count me in.
Ms Demeaner 03-16-2005, 02:08 PM Hi, my name is Ms. Demeaner and I am a science geek.
*Hi, Geek.*
I majored in meteorology, which is through the geography department. Unfortuately, my geography background can offer no help as to where our Lostaways are.
I would love to be part of the science geek group. I haven't had the time to read through the whole Tesla group's threads so I'm not about to get on their board yet without getting up to speed. Any of you in that group?
baner17 03-16-2005, 08:09 PM Personally, I stay away from those discussions (and that's why I don't want discussion of them too much here) because I find more often than not they are based off one bit of truth, and stretched to fit the island in very exaggerated ways, that even if it were true, it would make the show disappointing. That's just my opinion, so dont shoot me down, but I find the majority of those discussions are like that.
Maybe I should mention, I am presently a 1st year biochemistry student from outside of Toronto. I love discussions on molecular bio and quantum physics, but only when treated separate from this show. ummm i dunno what else ot put about myself right now...so I'll leave it at that.
lostfan88 03-16-2005, 08:35 PM Hi, my name is Ms. Demeaner and I am a science geek.
*Hi, Geek.*
I majored in meteorology, which is through the geography department.* Unfortunately, my geography background can offer no help as to where our Lostaways are.*
I would love to be part of the science geek group.* I haven't had the time to read through the whole Tesla group's threads so I'm not about to get on their board yet without getting up to speed.* Any of you in that group?
Oooh, I used to want to do meteorology. Now, I'm considering nursing. I used to do a lot of things actually. :lol2: It seems that most had to do with some form of science: tornado chaser/expert, meteorologist, veterinarian, etc.
I guess I could be a science geek. I think the unexplained, such as the universe and what's outside of our galaxy, is really fascinating.
Templeton 03-17-2005, 05:16 AM I love discussions on molecular bio and quantum physics, but only when treated separate from this show.
Baner, you are probably very wise to take this approach. I have engaged in a few quite frustrating discussions of this type :lol2:
Templeton
baner17 03-17-2005, 01:42 PM The one that really bugs me (not to necessarily say it is wrong, but ungrounded) is the stem cell argument. Stem cells get a lot of media attention, but are very minor in the big scheme of things.
WhiteSapphire 03-17-2005, 01:43 PM Yeah, and, along those lines, cloning on TV always bugs me.
People don't realize that if you did make a clone, it would have to grow from a baby, and wouldn't automatically be a fully grown adult.
baner17 03-17-2005, 02:01 PM And the fact that Dolly wasn't even the first clone, she just got all the attention.
WhiteSapphire 03-17-2005, 02:02 PM I worked in a molecular biology lab once. I knew this guy who would tell people that he fully supported cloning; in fact, he told them, "I clone E. coli all the time." People would get kinda freaked out.
Yeah, we used to laugh about that.
baner17 03-17-2005, 02:08 PM That's the danger of a little bit of knowlege
Ms Demeaner 03-17-2005, 02:34 PM Oooh, I used to want to do meteorology. Now, I'm considering nursing.* I used to do a lot of things actually. :lol2: It seems that most had to do with some form of science: tornado chaser/expert, meteorologist, veterinarian, etc.
That's funny because I got into Meteorology hoping I would become a storm chaser. The downer is that no one really pays you to go chase tornadoes. Bummer.
baner17 03-17-2005, 02:38 PM A lot of of people go into my field so they can be forensic scientists...unfrtunately it doesn't often work out as theres really limited jobs in that field
Ms Demeaner 03-17-2005, 06:06 PM I read in the most recent "US world & News" that forensic science is one of the fastest growing fields. Maybe a bunch of people watch CSI and think it's a sexy job & the talent pool is so saturated now there are limited opportunities?
baner17 03-17-2005, 06:21 PM Never heard it was growing...but CSI definitely had an impact there
lostfan88 03-17-2005, 07:27 PM I read in the most recent "US world & News" that forensic science is one of the fastest growing fields.* Maybe a bunch of people watch CSI and think it's a sexy job & the talent pool is so saturated now there are limited opportunities?
As a matter of fact, one of my close friends wants to get into forensics. I think that's interesting too, but I rather be a nurse.
Templeton 03-17-2005, 08:16 PM I worked in a molecular biology lab once. I knew this guy who would tell people that he fully supported cloning; in fact, he told them, "I clone E. coli all the time." People would get kinda freaked out.
Yeah, we used to laugh about that.
Yep. The term "cloning" has acquired a meaning in the public consciousness that has little to do with the routine work that's done in molecular bio labs all the time.
It's sad how great the gap is between the general knowledge about science and the actual work that scientists spend their days (and nights and weekends!) doing.
Templeton
Templeton 03-17-2005, 08:18 PM As a matter of fact, one of my close friends wants to get into forensics. I think that's interesting too, but I rather be a nurse.
Nursing is a really good profession to get into now. The employment projections for the next decade suggest that nurses will continue to be in great demand, so the salaries should stay high.
Plus, you're helping people and can see the results directly, on a daily basis.
Good luck with it! Are you currently studying to be a nurse?
Templeton
lostfan88 03-18-2005, 03:06 PM I'm only a junior in high school so I'll most likely get better education in college. Kennesaw State University in Georgia is supposed to have one of the best nursing programs in the state so I'll probably end up there. Although, I am taking Anatomy this year as my science and that will prove useful of course. :) And I'm going to apply for volunteer work during the summer at a local children's hosptial.
PhillyGirl2873 03-18-2005, 03:25 PM I'm reading a book on chaos theory at the moment, if that's geeky enough for you. Oh yeah, and I'm an envionmental scientist so I work with science every day.
Oooh, I used to want to do meteorology. Now, I'm considering nursing. I used to do a lot of things actually. :lol2: It seems that most had to do with some form of science: tornado chaser/expert, meteorologist, veterinarian, etc.
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I understand wanting to do all kinds of stuff. I started out as a Marine Bio major, then changed to Environmental science after taking Geology, now I wish I majored in Math. Oh well, it's all good.
baner17 03-18-2005, 03:45 PM I'm reading a book on chaos theory at the moment, if that's geeky enough for you. Oh yeah, and I'm an envionmental scientist so I work with science every day.
I understand wanting to do all kinds of stuff. I started out as a Marine Bio major, then changed to Environmental science after taking Geology, now I wish I majored in Math. Oh well, it's all good.
No worries, I'm reading stephen Hawking's book right now, just finished one on quantum physics
WhiteSapphire 03-18-2005, 04:04 PM My favorite book ever was "The Selfish Gene"
Game theory!
baner17 03-18-2005, 05:21 PM Thats on my list along with Our Posthuman Future, and Black Holes, Geons, and Quantum Foam
PrincessV 03-18-2005, 05:37 PM I'd like to be a science geek, well, I already am but I'd like to declare it!
I'm a chemist, so I guess that counts!!
WhiteSapphire 03-18-2005, 05:38 PM I used to be a chemist . . . but I gave that up.
PrincessV 03-18-2005, 05:41 PM What type of Chemist? What kind of work did you do?
It's not a very rewarding field, you can do six months of work for just one awesome result....
I do protein/DNA/RNA synthesis....drug development that type of stuff...it's pretty fun (and that's why I'm in the geek thread) ;)
WhiteSapphire 03-18-2005, 05:42 PM Umm . . . biophysical stuff, some calculations.
I never got any awesome results, after 4 years. ;)
PrincessV 03-18-2005, 05:44 PM that's too bad...
what do you do now? Are you still a scientist or did you give up science all together?
I definitely think about it sometimes....
WhiteSapphire 03-18-2005, 05:46 PM Business. :D
I get to interact with more people. I get to work on ever-changing problems.
I mean, I still get annoyed and stuff, but at least I know that the landscape is ever-changing.
PrincessV 03-18-2005, 05:49 PM Well, I am glad you are happier now....but we need more girls in Chemistry.
When I go to talks and lectures us girls are definitely 1/4 of the population and that's being generous!
WhiteSapphire 03-18-2005, 05:51 PM Hmm . . . yeah, I know. But I always attribute that to the teratogen-baby thing. :-\ That's another part of the reason I left. I just couldn't see putting my career on hold for like a year to have kids. (Cause I wouldn't want to be there all 9 mos of pregancy, and might even feel a little funny while breastfeeding.)
baner17 03-18-2005, 06:45 PM Well, I am glad you are happier now....but we need more girls in Chemistry.
When I go to talks and lectures us girls are definitely 1/4 of the population and that's being generous!
Be glad you're not in engineering
WhiteSapphire 03-18-2005, 07:23 PM Be glad you're not in engineering
And, baner, be glad you're not female. You'd think male scientists had never seen a female! I saw a funny comic about that once. Like every guy kept asking this one poor girl out. :laugh:
baner17 03-18-2005, 08:05 PM And, baner, be glad you're not female. You'd think male scientists had never seen a female! I saw a funny comic about that once. Like every guy kept asking this one poor girl out. :laugh:
touché... I could see how that works...
Its funny at my school here theres about a 3:2 ratio of girls to guys in sciences, and even worse in arts, but when you split it up between physical and biological science it becomes about even in bio. sci. and about 80% guys in physical science.
Its partially because one of the country's largest vet schools is here, and not to be sexist, but its a big draw for a lot of female students here to take bio science then be a vet
Templeton 03-18-2005, 10:51 PM I'm reading a book on chaos theory at the moment, if that's geeky enough for you. Oh yeah, and I'm an envionmental scientist so I work with science every day.
I understand wanting to do all kinds of stuff. I started out as a Marine Bio major, then changed to Environmental science after taking Geology, now I wish I majored in Math. Oh well, it's all good.
Hi JerseyGirl,
Environmental science is an excellent field to be in; there seem to be jobs in the field even during recessions. I used to be married to an environmental scientist. He'd been a theoretical physicist, but switched to environmental science because the job opportunities were better! He worked at Harvard for many years and is now at EPA.
Templeton
Templeton 03-18-2005, 10:55 PM I'm only a junior in high school so I'll most likely get better education in college. Kennesaw State University in Georgia is supposed to have one of the best nursing programs in the state so I'll probably end up there. Although, I am taking Anatomy this year as my science and that will prove useful of course. :) And I'm going to apply for volunteer work during the summer at a local children's hosptial.
Good for you! Yeah, getting a college degree along with the RN is the best route to go now, from what I've heard. My niece graduated a couple of years ago from a university in Florida with her BS in nursing, and now has a really great job.
BTW, I have a special fondness in my heart for anatomy courses. I thought it was awesome to actually dissect and examine the organs we just sorta take for granted.
Templeton
lostfan88 03-19-2005, 12:26 AM This past week we dissected sheep hearts and examined real human hearts. Later in the year we'll be dissecting cats. It actually doesn't bug me as much as I had imagined. I like to look at the organs too because it's interesting to see how it varies in species. Like the sheep heart, it had tons of adipose tissue compared to our hearts.
btw, PrincessV, is that Clive Owen in your avatar? hehe :-*
WhiteSapphire 03-19-2005, 09:13 AM I watched a few surgeries once (back when I was pre-med). I remember being surprised at how much people's insides looked just like the pictures I'd seen in textbooks!
baner17 03-19-2005, 12:11 PM Guess thats better than them not looking anything like them though, eh?
PrincessV 03-19-2005, 07:11 PM btw, PrincessV, is that Clive Owen in your avatar? hehe :-*
Yes!! It's Clive Owen from the movie Croupier, one of my faves!
Thanks for noticing!
lostfan88 03-20-2005, 09:42 PM Love it :D Haven't seen Croupier, though. :-\ I want to see him in Sin City.
PhillyGirl2873 03-21-2005, 02:42 PM Hi JerseyGirl,
Environmental science is an excellent field to be in; there seem to be jobs in the field even during recessions.* I used to be married to an environmental scientist.* He'd been a theoretical physicist, but switched to environmental science because the job opportunities were better!* He worked at Harvard for many years and is now at EPA.
Templeton
Yes, being an environmental scientist in New Jersey is pretty recession proof. I'm pretty sure NJ has the strictest environmental laws, and they keep getting stricter. I was a sub for EPA region III for a year. I got to do emergency responses and worked at Superfund sites. It was pretty cool.
PrincessV 03-21-2005, 08:29 PM Love it :D Haven't seen Croupier, though. :-\ I want to see him in Sin City.
Oh you should see it! It's one of his best, with King Arthur a close second!
I also cannot wait for Sin City!!!
PhillyGirl2873 03-22-2005, 06:05 PM Hmm . . . yeah, I know. But I always attribute that to the teratogen-baby thing.
That is something to think about. I work with a lot of carcinogens, but pregnant women in my business are usually confined to the office during pregnancy. I'd probably want to be office bound during breast feeding too.
WhiteSapphire 03-22-2005, 06:33 PM I was really upset with how things were run when I was in grad school. Safety was a joke. There was an accident at least once a week. There was no effort made to design the labs to have separate offices. In fact, the professors wanted the graduate students to have desks right next to their hoods, because they were convinced that this would increase the productivity. No one wore goggles, and open-toed shoes were the norm. It's amazing that more people haven't been seriously injured.
Heaven forbid you try to change the old boys' way of doing things though. Just because "this is how we've been doing it" does not mean that it's the best way to do it.
I have to say, my undergraduate institution had wonderful safety procedures in place. Of course, they were brought on as a result of tragedy. It's unfortunate. I'm just happy that I never had a serious accident.
Oh, and on the topics of pregnancy, one of the post-docs got pregnant at my gaduate school. She was basically told to leave, since her funding would have run out by the time she was ready to come back. Now you tell me why there aren't enough women in chemistry.
/rant. Sorry about that. ;)
PhillyGirl2873 03-23-2005, 01:17 PM Understandable. That's one thing I like about the environmental field. We have plenty of women, or at least in the companies I've worked for. But if I could do it all over again I would go for engineering or math.
AudBall 03-23-2005, 04:04 PM *raises hand* Yeah, I'm a science geek too. I'm going into Forensic Biology when I go to college in August....I don't know if there's MUCH science geekier than that :). Physics was my favorite class in my junior year of high school, and biology my favorite my freshman year. I hate chemistry though :( Sorry, all you ChemNerds but it just didn't cooperate with me. Just about every other science though, count me in!
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