The question that keeps coming up for me is, why only 6? Of all those survivors, why did only 6 get off that island? Was there some kind of a deal struck? Surely not all those that remained behind thought life on the island with all the strange and dangerous stuff going on there would be so much better than being back home. It's obvious that why some would want to remain there, like Locke and Rose and Sawyer, even Bernard who wouldn't want to leave his wife.

Seems strange to me.

I agree. Can't stop thinking about why only 6 got off. There had to have been some kind of deal struck and/or some struggle before they left and only those were able to leave. i am really wondering what is going to happen to claire and what happened to the baby. you would think she would want to get off asap

6 made it to the boat, then something happens and the 6 are told the remaining people were killed on the island. Maybe they are told that Ben used the gas to kill the people on the island, but that didn't really happen and they are still alive, but the 6 think they died.

6 made it to the boat, then something happens and the 6 are told the remaining people were killed on the island. Maybe they are told that Ben used the gas to kill the people on the island, but that didn't really happen and they are still alive, but the 6 think they died.

If the 6 think they died, then why is Jack so stuck on getting back to that island? And what about this lie that they all seem to have to keep up? That doesn't make sense to me.

Who would they have had to make a deal with? The freighter seems big enough to me to get more than 6 people off that island.

If the 6 think they died, then why is Jack so stuck on getting back to that island? And what about this lie that they all seem to have to keep up? That doesn't make sense to me.

Who would they have had to make a deal with? The freighter seems big enough to me to get more than 6 people off that island.

Jack want's to get back because part of him doesn't believe they're dead, just like Hurley is seeing dead Charley telling him "they need you", but Hurley was told "They" are dead.

I think Jack, along with Hurley are being called back to the island, by the island and deep down they know people are still alive.

Why do the need to lie about what happed? Because Mr. Widmore is making them....

Jack want's to get back because part of him doesn't believe they're dead, just like Hurley is seeing dead Charley telling him "they need you", but Hurley was told "They" are dead.

I think Jack, along with Hurley are being called back to the island, by the island and deep down they know people are still alive.

Why do the need to lie about what happed? Because Mr. Widmore is making them....


I don't think Widmore is the one making them lie. I think it's an agreement they made with the other survivors to not tell the world that some chose to remain behind on the island, like Locke and Rose, for health reasons.

Why only 6?

How many people can fit on a stolen helicopter with Sayid as their pilot?

-- J

Why only 6?

How many people can fit on a stolen helicopter with Sayid as their pilot?

-- J

And fly to WHERE? They're in the middle of the OCEAN! What other land mass is close enough for a chopper to reach other than Craphole Island itself?

The question that keeps coming up for me is, why only 6? Of all those survivors, why did only 6 get off that island? Was there some kind of a deal struck? Surely not all those that remained behind thought life on the island with all the strange and dangerous stuff going on there would be so much better than being back home. It's obvious that why some would want to remain there, like Locke and Rose and Sawyer, even Bernard who wouldn't want to leave his wife.

Seems strange to me.

Im guessing 7 was too much and 5 was too little, ; )
Seriously though, a very good question. We shall have to wait and see I think.
How many seat's on that copter again??
For some odd reason, I dont expect that freighter to leave any time soon.



"Do I get one?"

Whatever gets them off the island can only take 6 at a time. I think that, at first, the O6 beleive that everyone else on the island dies after they leave. The O6 find out later that the island folks are still alive, hence the desperate desire to go back and save them.

O.K., this is my first post, so be nice if I am completely out of touch. I read every week with interest as a voyer. Finally a question that I might have an idea on. I just finished a class at my church and during that class, we learned that the number 7 is considered "perfection". The opposite of the perfection number is the number 6 because it falls just short of perfection. Thus the whole stigma of the number 6-6-6. Perhaps this is a clue that the Oceanic 6 are still tormented.

O.K., this is my first post, so be nice if I am completely out of touch. I read every week with interest as a voyer. Finally a question that I might have an idea on. I just finished a class at my church and during that class, we learned that the number 7 is considered "perfection". The opposite of the perfection number is the number 6 because it falls just short of perfection. Thus the whole stigma of the number 6-6-6. Perhaps this is a clue that the Oceanic 6 are still tormented.

Nice first post..
I cant welcome you to the Fusey, because you have been a member a lot longer than me ; ) lol.
Stop voyeuring, get more involved.





"Driveshaft, more like Suckshaft"

The question that keeps coming up for me is, why only 6? Of all those survivors, why did only 6 get off that island? Was there some kind of a deal struck? Surely not all those that remained behind thought life on the island with all the strange and dangerous stuff going on there would be so much better than being back home. It's obvious that why some would want to remain there, like Locke and Rose and Sawyer, even Bernard who wouldn't want to leave his wife.

Seems strange to me.What I think happens is that 6 get off the island and then no one ever comes back for the rest. I think that's how Jin gets left behind and has to be those that didn't survive to keep up with the lies the O6 are having to tell. I think that Lapidus will want to go back for them but something or someone (can we all say "Captain"?) will not let him. Or maybe Sayid flies the chopper back to the island to get the first load and then can't get back to the island for some reason. I just don't think, the more of S04 I see, that it's planned that only 6 get off. But once there are only 6 they have to concoct a story explaining why no others were rescued. I mean they sure can't say, "We left a bunch back there but we can't get back to them because of this electromagnetic field that messes you up and makes you go back in time ... " and at that point they'd all be with Hurely in the mental hospital. :eek2:

O.K., this is my first post, so be nice if I am completely out of touch. I read every week with interest as a voyer. Finally a question that I might have an idea on. I just finished a class at my church and during that class, we learned that the number 7 is considered "perfection". The opposite of the perfection number is the number 6 because it falls just short of perfection. Thus the whole stigma of the number 6-6-6. Perhaps this is a clue that the Oceanic 6 are still tormented.

This is a good point with all the Catholic undertones we have seen in the past on this show, as far as the number of people that get off.


I mean they sure can't say, "We left a bunch back there but we can't get back to them because of this electromagnetic field that messes you up and makes you go back in time ... " and at that point they'd all be with Hurely in the mental hospital. :eek2:


This is another good point. But at this point, I want to know why the chopper flyer (I'm so bad with all these new names) doesn't go back and fourth to bring everyone who wants off Craphole Island to the freighter.

O.K., this is my first post, so be nice if I am completely out of touch. I read every week with interest as a voyer. Finally a question that I might have an idea on. I just finished a class at my church and during that class, we learned that the number 7 is considered "perfection". The opposite of the perfection number is the number 6 because it falls just short of perfection. Thus the whole stigma of the number 6-6-6. Perhaps this is a clue that the Oceanic 6 are still tormented.

Just to throw in, the number 3 is considered the perfect amount, and that is why 666.

Oh and if it is the stolen helicopter that would be tough because even if there is land close, Sayid is not going to know where it is. But let's set that aside and say that he has a map and GPS and can find it, that means all 6 have to get off at once. So I can see the logic on Sayid (fly it), Sun (preggers and death), Jack (doctor to deliver though I would prefer Juliet who said she is her doctor and then should be staying with her, but whatever), but why Kate? To take Aaron because something happens to Claire, maybe, a stretch considering she is not a fit mother according to her...a bigger stretch if you consider fuel, why Hurley? Need jokes?

So for me there has to be some concerted organized way they are ushered off, but why those 6, not so much why 6. Other then Sun, why does anyone of them have a more pressing need.

Didn't Jack testify at Kate's hearing (in "Eggtown") that there were originally 8 survivors and Kate tried to save the other two, but, alas, they demised.

Whether or not this is truth, or fiction to paint Kate in a more compassionate light, we've yet to know.

Which begs, who might the "dead" two be? We already know someone they're acquainted with ends up in a coffin....

Why only 6?

How many people can fit on a stolen helicopter with Sayid as their pilot?

-- J

Yep. I keep thinking it's something like this. And they fly it... back to the freighter, or to another boat that will enter the picture. Hmmm?
And that the intention is to return to get anyone else who wants to go home. But once the 6 leave, they find they "can't" return and only then is this "deal" or whatever it is, with whomever it is, struck.

Just to throw in, the number 3 is considered the perfect amount, and that is why 666.

Oh and if it is the stolen helicopter that would be tough because even if there is land close, Sayid is not going to know where it is. But let's set that aside and say that he has a map and GPS and can find it, that means all 6 have to get off at once. So I can see the logic on Sayid (fly it), Sun (preggers and death), Jack (doctor to deliver though I would prefer Juliet who said she is her doctor and then should be staying with her, but whatever), but why Kate? To take Aaron because something happens to Claire, maybe, a stretch considering she is not a fit mother according to her...a bigger stretch if you consider fuel, why Hurley? Need jokes?

So for me there has to be some concerted organized way they are ushered off, but why those 6, not so much why 6. Other then Sun, why does anyone of them have a more pressing need.

Why wouldn't anyone who didn't need to stay on that island for health reasons or to avoid prosecution (Sawyer) stay? You mean you'd rather have to deal with the Smoke Monster and eat coconuts and mangos and have to worry about supply drops than go home? Surely more than 6 people, especially given the fact that there are others in the background who's stories we don't know, who would want to go home. Are they all sick and outlaws?

At this point we have no reason to believe that Juliette and Des do not get off the island too. But they wouldn't be considered Oceanic 6 because they were never on the flight 815. Considering first that Des is already off the island and how much he wants to get home to Penny, I'm thinking he does all he can to get home. With Juliette, considering how long she's been trying to get Ben to let her get off that island and back to her sister, I'm thinking she too will do all she can to get home. But again, they would not be considered Oceanic 6.

Why just the 6 we see? Why not more?

Oh yeah, well of course why just the 6 and why not more is a big question, but that is not what I am addressing when I am asking why those 6. And of course they are all going to want to be taken off, I am not saying that either.

What I am saying is the 6 that are off (or 5 if you don't want to believe in Aaron), why those ones. I understand three, but I do not understand the other three.

And I am not even trying to address Juliet and Des who could be off or may not be off, who knows, but of course they would not be part of the 6. But I can think of a better reason that Juliet or Jack are on the Chopper with Sun then Hurley or Kate...that is what I am getting at. Of course they all want off and of course why not more, but that I think will be answered in time, as probably why these 6, but these 6 has me more curious now then why only 6.

Assuming there is some sort of scenario where people are being ushered into a chopper, 6 at a time, i cannot see Jack as allowing himself, as the leader, to be in the first group, Jack would usher the others into the chopper, or wherever. So i'm convinced, for now anyway, there was no on-the-spot decision as to who goes.

Assuming there is some sort of scenario where people are being ushered into a chopper, 6 at a time, i cannot see Jack as allowing himself, as the leader, to be in the first group, Jack would usher the others into the chopper, or wherever. So i'm convinced, for now anyway, there was no on-the-spot decision as to who goes.

I agree and that was one of the reasons I had a hard time with Jack on the first group out and wonder how it is that he is off the island because I have a hard time seeing how the spontaneously get off as well, and how the heck Hurley gets into that group, so there has to be some sort of process or deal maybe.

What I think happens is that 6 get off the island and then no one ever comes back for the rest. I think that's how Jin gets left behind and has to be those that didn't survive to keep up with the lies the O6 are having to tell. I think that Lapidus will want to go back for them but something or someone (can we all say "Captain"?) will not let him. Or maybe Sayid flies the chopper back to the island to get the first load and then can't get back to the island for some reason. I just don't think, the more of S04 I see, that it's planned that only 6 get off. But once there are only 6 they have to concoct a story explaining why no others were rescued. I mean they sure can't say, "We left a bunch back there but we can't get back to them because of this electromagnetic field that messes you up and makes you go back in time ... " and at that point they'd all be with Hurely in the mental hospital. :eek2:

I think so, too. Something happens where they can't rescue the rest who want to leave. What, I don't know but I hope we don't have to wait until S5 to find out. :rolleyes:

I agree and that was one of the reasons I had a hard time with Jack on the first group out and wonder how it is that he is off the island because I have a hard time seeing how the spontaneously get off as well, and how the heck Hurley gets into that group, so there has to be some sort of process or deal maybe.


Exactly, a deal of some sort. Why? Why would only 6 get off the island in that deal?

And I agree, why Kate wants off that island, knowing she faces prosecution is beyond me. She even goes so far as to find out what the people on the freighter know about her. It is confirmed to her that even they know she was a fugitive. Why would anyone volunteer for that? But for me, this is a side point.

Oceanic 6 is just a media sound byte. It seems pretty obvious there are multiple factions at odds here and I have no doubt that a major confrontation/conflict is about to occur. Who's to say what that outcome is and who ends up on top? Ben's the man with the plan and he managed to get off the island invisibly or so we are led to believe. If Ben is really the one with the unlimited resources and he "wins" (as Juliet predicts) anyone wanting off the island will have to deal with him and past actions will tell you he won't let it happen without huge sacrifices by those making the deals.