We suddenly saw a black man in a hoody top just behind the two shipmates, didn't seem to be there before or after.........

any ideas?:hypocrit:

It's Michael. You can see him in one of the pix on Dark UFO's blog (http://bp3.blogger.com/_Hxnvg45zlCw/R9n8wjMa0KI/AAAAAAAAAao/zfcC4zicDOc/s1600-h/pict+2008-03-13+10-38-5310.jpg).

It's Michael. You can see him in one of the pix on Dark UFO's blog (http://bp3.blogger.com/_Hxnvg45zlCw/R9n8wjMa0KI/AAAAAAAAAao/zfcC4zicDOc/s1600-h/pict+2008-03-13+10-38-5310.jpg).

Nice.

Why did she jump? Why in the hell was she reading that book upside down? :eek2:

Why did she jump? Why in the hell was she reading that book upside down? :eek2:

Well, if you believe the Captain, she jumped because of cabin fever. If that's true, then I think the "reading" of the upside down book was just showing us that she was already spiralling down into madness.

Wow, that is Michael. I didn't notice him the first time.

Well, if you believe the Captain, she jumped because of cabin fever. If that's true, then I think the "reading" of the upside down book was just showing us that she was already spiralling down into madness.

I don't trust the Captain. :biggrin:

I don't trust the Captain. :biggrin:

But, just to throw this out there, what if you can't trust the note writer? What if the Captain is being honest but the note writer is trying to undermine him?

But, just to throw this out there, what if you can't trust the note writer? What if the Captain is being honest but the note writer is trying to undermine him?

At this point, I'll take the note writer over the Captain. He sure doesn't seem to be in a hurry to help Sayid & Desmond go home.

That is not Michael...its Kevin Johnson.

(I know they're the same...I'm just playin!!! Calm Down.)

Its been mentioned in another thread that Walt could be the one driving the humans to suicide, much like he made those birds kill themselves. Jumping into the water strapped with chains is much like slamming head first into the side of a building. So maybe that is Michael looking overboard and thinking "that a boy."

Because she had those chains on so loosely (easily shed when panic sets in), and because no one seemed at all concerned except Sayid and Desmond, and because the Captain gave a lame excuse, I don't think Regina jumped to her death at all. I think she was going down to something... I'm not sure what... an underwater station?

I think she wasn't reading the book, but doing somehting else and picked up the book just when Frank came into the coridoor.

She was probably jumping down to the Looking Glass.

No.. actually, I think she was committing suicide. I've posted this elsewhere, but her suicide reminds me of Hugh Jackman killing himself in "The Prestige" every time he duplicates. I think because of the electromagnetic anomaly she's been duplicating (just like the bunny in the Orchid) and she keeps killing herself. I think the bloodstain in the other room, is from where a previous duplication of herself blew her brains out before.

You don't bring someone like Zooey Belle (sp?) onto a show just to have her die in the present time line. There will be "more" of her, trust me.

She was probably jumping down to the Looking Glass.

No.. actually, I think she was committing suicide. I've posted this elsewhere, but her suicide reminds me of Hugh Jackman killing himself in "The Prestige" every time he duplicates. I think because of the electromagnetic anomaly she's been duplicating (just like the bunny in the Orchid) and she keeps killing herself. I think the bloodstain in the other room, is from where a previous duplication of herself blew her brains out before.

You don't bring someone like Zooey Belle (sp?) onto a show just to have her die in the present time line. There will be "more" of her, trust me.

Then everyone would be duplicating and the ship would be run amuk with clones.

yes i am starting to think a little more about this Regina wasn't committing suicide at all, but infact going somehwere. Nice catch on the very clear screenshot

Then everyone would be duplicating and the ship would be run amuk with clones.

Nah. Farriday said the effects were unpredictable.

But, just to throw this out there, what if you can't trust the note writer? What if the Captain is being honest but the note writer is trying to undermine him?

It all depends on which side you are on. Apparently Michael is on the ship per an agreement with Ben. Therefore, if the note is from Michael it is basically Ben telling you not to trust the captain. Since their story is that they are there for Ben, it would be fitting that Ben would do whatever necessary to prevent them from getting him. If he creates doubt in Sayid and Desmond, then they would be less likely to cut a deal with the captain.

I personally think the captain was being truthful and that Ben (through Michael) is only saying not to trust him because of Widmore's intentions with the boat. This reminds me of a movie, but to avoid spoiling the movie I made a double spoiler. One for the movie title, and the other for what I'm referring to.

Memento
At the "end" you find out he wrote "DON'T TRUST HIS LIES" on the picture of Teddy even though the man had been helping him. Teddy was really telling the truth, even though Leonard only had what was written on the picture to go by.

I don't trust the Captain. :biggrin:

I don't either, but I will be damned if it is because I believe whoever wrote the note! I mean, I don't trust Michael either - if he is in fact the anonymous author of that note.
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Because she had those chains on so loosely (easily shed when panic sets in), and because no one seemed at all concerned except Sayid and Desmond, and because the Captain gave a lame excuse, I don't think Regina jumped to her death at all. I think she was going down to something... I'm not sure what... an underwater station?

Those chains were not on loose. They were wrapped in such a way as to keep her body submerged after she jumped in. It would actually be difficult for her to break free of those chains. The boat is supposed to be out away from any land in the middle of the Pacific Ocean - miles and miles from land. This means that the depth of the water would be about 4,280 metres (14,000 ft (http://thefuselage.com/Threaded/4,280 metres (14,000 ft)[)). This means that in order for her to reach a submerged station, she would have to descend about three miles to reach it. I'm not willing to believe that.

No, rather, I believe quite strongly that we were being shown that Regina was losing it, and ended up taking her life - just like whoever it was that blew his or her brains out in Sayid and Desmond's new cabin. Clearly people on board the freighter are committing suicide, and that is what that scene was meant to show.
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A rather humorous aspect of Regina's jump was the continuity error on the part of the production/filming crew that showed some land (http://bp3.blogger.com/_RrObyQ3XzcY/R9rSZ1OY9II/AAAAAAAAVhg/JAGuK-wYG3I/s1600-h/111514_413_pre.jpg) behind Regina as she jumped. It isn't shown in other scenes - just on her jump. So obviously it is a mistake. Ooops.

Of course there will be those who will mistakenly take this to have some deep dark meaning, and convince themselves that it was *supposed* to be shown. Unfortunately for us who care about people taking up bandwidth with these silly notions, Gregg Nations hasn't been answering any questions lately, so we won't be able to have his authoritative judgement to silence these unfortunates who think that the land in the background is supposed to be an Easter Egg. So we'll probably just have to live with these people who want to talk about all kinds of crazy ideas that are based on a production glitch! Oh well....

Those chains don't seem to be wrapped around her legs -- looks like a loose chain vest. All she would have to do is raise her arms up and duck her head out to be free of them. Don't know why, but she could easily slip those chains.

I think the chains were heavy, but loose.. you can see them here (http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Reginajumps.JPG). I think it would be easy, once in the water to remove them... but it doesn't mean she didn't kill herself... what's weird then is that no one cared except Desmond and Sayid.

For sure Regina has the same 'sickness' that Minkowski and Desmond had. The sickness being caused by the islands electromagnetic properties. The thing is Regina and Minkowski had no constants (i dunno why Faraday didn't help them) so they slowly began to deteroirate or go crazy. Since the side effects are different from each case, we have Minkowski unable to control his time shifting and Regina seemed to falling deeper into depression. By the looks of it others have already died as well (bloodstain on the wall of the other room).

I think it's funny that the first episode both Fisher Stevens and Zoe Bell made appearances in, they died. I'm guessing they're going the Goodwin and Ethan way, we'll see more of them in the future of the show, just in a different time frame. I bet Micheals flashback and any flashback from the freighties will involve appearances from these two. They're too big of names to just make one scene appearances and then die.

Also did anyone notice that both Regina and Minkowski were the communications people on the boat, and now they're both dead. I wonder if it has to do with their roles on the ship's communication centre.

I think the chains were heavy, but loose.. you can see them here (http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Image:Reginajumps.JPG). I think it would be easy, once in the water to remove them... but it doesn't mean she didn't kill herself... what's weird then is that no one cared except Desmond and Sayid.

Yup to me it looks like Regina committed suicide. As to the reason why I'm not sure. Was she going through the same thing as Desmond or was she being afflicted by something else (ie what Danielle's crew experienced)?

That is odd I wonder why no one else cared except for Des and Sayid?

If all I had to eat was lima beans, I'd jump off the ship too.:cool:

It's all pretty sudden, considering she was happily shooting rockets only the day or two previous.

Might have to do with Naomi's demise...

But, just to throw this out there, what if you can't trust the note writer? What if the Captain is being honest but the note writer is trying to undermine him?

That's just it. The note writer works for Ben. The captain works for Widmore. Who the heck can you trust? Neither sounds like a good option to me.

The higher up on the ship the more depth she would have from the jump

Why would you put a women who is losing it on guard duty?

Why would you put a women who is losing it on guard duty?1. because out of the remaining crew she is the one who currently has the fewest other duties? or perhaps most of the crew seems to be losing it to some degree and you misjudged how far gone she was?

I keep looking at the size and amount of chain she was wearing and wonder how much it weighed? It looked too massive for her to stroll around the ship with it.:eek2:

With that chain she would have been beyond reach within seconds of hitting the water. There was no way they could have saved her even if they tried.

Wow, that is Michael. I didn't notice him the first time.
i didnt notice him first time around either :cool: