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ryan0905
03-14-2008, 08:48 PM
Would you have done what Michael did to Libby and Ana Lucia if you knew it was the only way to save your son?

Felaries65
03-15-2008, 03:01 AM
I don't know. I cannot answer that. But I think my chances of doing what Michael had done if my child was in danger is pretty good.

Kathleen1
03-24-2008, 01:01 AM
Michael did not have to kill Anna & Libby as much as I hate Ben, he even said he didn't have to kill them

iameve
03-24-2008, 01:08 AM
I guess that if someone were to say that if you don't kill Libby and Ana Lucia ;), I will kill your child, I would have done what Michael did. I know that he didn't technically have to kill them but if he wouldn't have then they would have blurted that he let Ben escape, but then again he could have pretended that Ben over-powered him but I just don't see Ben as a fighter. Anywho, yes I would say that I would kill for my own flesh and blood, if only it was necessary of course.

Felaries65
03-24-2008, 02:58 AM
Ana-Lucia killed a man who had shot her . . . killing her unborn child. I think that Claire would kill for Aaron. Sawyer murdered a man in revenge for what happened to his parents. Charlie murdered Ethan for what happened to Claire.

On the whole, Michael's actions do not seem that unusual. He may have done the wrong thing . . . but so have others. I see no reason to single him out as a villain.

Kathleen1
03-26-2008, 05:14 PM
I for one have never called him a villain, he could have taken the gun from Anna, unlocked the door for Ben, "Let" Ben overpower him, then Ben could have knocked Anna out and instead of Libby being shot she could have been "taken" by Ben that would have got Hurley to want to go more than he did in the first place. Or Ben could have taken Anna with him and Let Juliet have a go at her.

Felaries65
03-27-2008, 12:00 AM
I for one have never called him a villain, he could have taken the gun from Anna, unlocked the door for Ben, "Let" Ben overpower him, then Ben could have knocked Anna out and instead of Libby being shot she could have been "taken" by Ben that would have got Hurley to want to go more than he did in the first place. Or Ben could have taken Anna with him and Let Juliet have a go at her.

So . . . this is about your hatred toward Ana-Lucia? That's why you're willing to tolerate Michael's murder of her?

If so, then I would have been a lot happier if Michael had murdered Kate, instead of Ana-Lucia and Libby.

badjo
03-27-2008, 05:55 AM
If I thought *at the time* that there was only one way to save my child, then yes, I would be doing all I can to get them back to me.

Kathleen1
03-27-2008, 03:29 PM
So . . . this is about your hatred toward Ana-Lucia? That's why you're willing to tolerate Michael's murder of her?

If so, then I would have been a lot happier if Michael had murdered Kate, instead of Ana-Lucia and Libby.

Um Felaries I never said I hated Anna if you look at my siggy then you will see who I Love and she it one of them. I wish Michael would have just not killed anyone, I never liked Michael and I probably never will. I didnt want him to come back but that wasnt my choice.

Devera
03-27-2008, 04:19 PM
Of course I can't say for sure, but I think it depends on the situation...in self defense of my child, yes. I'm not sure if I could do what Michael did...in fact, I think I wouldn't. There were just too many other options. If he had to shoot, he could have shot her leg or something.

On the other hand, I agree with what Felaries65 says. Michael is not unusual in killing in the world of LOST, so I'm not sure why so many characters get sympathy vs. others who do the same thing and are condemned. I think killing of any kind is wrong, but in the world of LOST we are still meant to have sympathy and realize that good people can do bad things...if that makes any sense.

Felaries65
03-28-2008, 02:10 AM
Of course I can't say for sure, but I think it depends on the situation...in self defense of my child, yes. I'm not sure if I could do what Michael did...in fact, I think I wouldn't. There were just too many other options. If he had to shoot, he could have shot her leg or something.

On the other hand, I agree with what Felaries65 says. Michael is not unusual in killing in the world of LOST, so I'm not sure why so many characters get sympathy vs. others who do the same thing and are condemned. I think killing of any kind is wrong, but in the world of LOST we are still meant to have sympathy and realize that good people can do bad things...if that makes any sense.


I think this has a lot to do with character preference. It's easier to condemn a character that wasn't very popular to begin with. I like Michael. He was annoying at times . . . but if I must be frank, I can say the same about all of the characters. But regardless of whether I like them or not, I won't hold back in condemning their actions. I find Michael's crimes horrible. But I find the crimes of the other Losties' horrible as well. I see no reason to condemn Michael and pretend that the other Losties are forgiveable . . . or their actions excusable.

Devera
03-28-2008, 12:26 PM
I find Michael's crimes horrible. But I find the crimes of the other Losties' horrible as well. I see no reason to condemn Michael and pretend that the other Losties are forgiveable . . . or their actions excusable.

This aspect of LOST is difficult to handle. The characters are very much like those in a Shakespearian tragedy--Macbeth, Othello, even some aspects of King Lear. They do things that are wrong, undeniably wrong that should not be excusable...but they convince themselves they are right, that they had "no choice," that circumstances forced them into their actions, that one thing just lead to another...and this is what Michael did and continues to do.

Felaries65
04-01-2008, 02:53 AM
This aspect of LOST is difficult to handle. The characters are very much like those in a Shakespearian tragedy--Macbeth, Othello, even some aspects of King Lear. They do things that are wrong, undeniably wrong that should not be excusable...but they convince themselves they are right, that they had "no choice," that circumstances forced them into their actions, that one thing just lead to another...and this is what Michael did and continues to do.


As do many of the other Losties. Strange, many keep pointing out Michael's flaws, but hardly ever say a word about the other Losties. After all, Jack has not shown any remorse for trying to kill Locke. I can say the same about Locke, Kate and a few others.

Devera
04-01-2008, 12:43 PM
You're right; actually, Michael has shown more remorse than most of the characters who have intentionally killed others.