As this is a Locke centric episode are there any theors about what the back story will be...

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Do you think that since it appears that Locke is struggling with the island taking back it's "gift", the back story
will deal with how he ended up in the wheelchair to begin with.

And will we get to understand his comment earlier that the island will give you something, but you must give
give something. (Or whatever the quote was)

Any way I love Locke looking forward to this eppisode.

Sounds good.

I hope we get more into Looke's back story, I still think he is the most interesting charictor on the show and if anything were to happen to Looke it would be bad news for everyone else.

Although I may be wrong here, I get the feeling that Looke was put in the position of being in a wheelchair because of something that he did. Not directly but mabey he was doing something he shouldn't have been or somehow they will show us that it is Looke's own fault he is in a wheelchair.

Perhaps all of Looke's good doing on the island is why the island gave him his legs back. I don't know why the island is taking them again and I guess neither does Looke. Mabey he is due for another good deed.

Jazzy J

lost night, what was the quote you mentioned, the island will give you something but you have to give something back?what epi was that?

The Moth I think. Locke said it to Charlie when Charlie was looking for his guitar I think. It's been awhile.

The Moth I think.* Locke said it to Charlie when Charlie was looking for his guitar I think.* It's been awhile.



Yep, you are right the moth.

No..it was the episode before that. House of the Rising Sun I think but I might be mistaken.

Locke already had Charlie's drugs in "The Moth'. Charlie had given them to him in the episode before.

No..it was the episode before that. House of the Rising Sun I think but I might be mistaken.

Locke already had Charlie's drugs in "The Moth'.


That sounds familiar. I think it was at the end of an episode because Charlie was playing the guitar at the end.

No..it was the episode before that. House of the Rising Sun I think but I might be mistaken.

Locke already had Charlie's drugs in "The Moth'. Charlie had given them to him in the episode before.


That sounds familiar. I think it was at the end of an episode because Charlie was playing the guitar at the end.


I went back to some transcripts and it was in HOTRS. It was when he helped Charlie find his guitar. Here is a copy of the quote

Locke
What I know is that this island might just give you what you're looking for, but you have to give the island something.

OK, so going back to your original post...

What did Locke give the island originally? Maybe we will find out. He got his ability to walk back and he met the monster and got the boar, but what did he give the island? I also think the island gave him some kind of "sight" or ability to read peoples minds. Not quite that but an ability to see into them and figure out what they need.

OK, so going back to your original post...

What did Locke give the island originally? Maybe we will find out. He got his ability to walk back and he met the monster and got the boar, but what did he give the island? I also think the island gave him some kind of "sight" or ability to read peoples minds. Not quite that but an ability to see into them and figure out what they need.




What he gave the island is one of the mysteries. Is is related to his comment to Jack in White Rabbit?
"I don't know. But I've looked into the eye of this island. And what I saw was beautiful. "

I am really looking forward to getting to know more about Locke. And who knows mabey we can even get a glimpse of Hurley at the box company. :)

My theory is that Locke is going to have to do something for the island to get his legs back. Like maybe hide the fact that another plane crashed on the island, or stop the other survivors from making contact with the outside world. I believe that the island wants the survivors to stay and will use people like Locke to keep it that way.

I'm sure the backstory will be about how Locke first lost his ability to walk. The flashbacks are always related to whatever is happening on the island.

i think we may be a bit suprised by lockes backstory, two different people locke now and locke then

Yes, but Locke got his legs back the as soon as he was on the island. He didn't have time to give the island anything in exchange for his legs. Unless it was some retroactive thing, but I don't think the island works that way.

it makes no sense to give him his legs, take them back, give them back, its just too confusing of a plot to follow and i dont think it will last

Very interesting ideas everyone is bringing up!!

I think you are on to something about Locke having to give something back to the Island. He has said many times that he likes the Island and doesn't want to leave - the discussion with Walt after he burned the raft was a recent one. I think his payback is going to be at the expense of the "character death". The spoilers have all mentioned the character death causing a rift amongst the survivors and splitting the camps. I think Locke causes the character's death.

I'm looking forward to more backstory on Locke. I hope we get a litle "hint" of Hurley also!!

GL 8)

I also suspect that besides flashbacks to why he couldn't walk, we might get one of his childhood - or at least one of adult Locke referring to his childhood. In the last few episodes, they've set up that Locke had a troubled youth. First his comment about not being the most popular kid to Sayid. Then the story about his sister and foster mother that he told Sawyer. And finally his comment to Walt about how his dad isn't cool. We've seen glimpses of the troubled childhoods of Jack and Sawyer, so I think we might get a glimpse of Locke's, or at least another mention of it.

~ RG

I think Locke had hysterial paralysis. It took another "jolt" (the crash) to return his ability to walk to him. Now, he's going to lose his legs again...due to another jolt...

Runemuse

There are a lot of great theories here. One thing I thought of while reading all of these...Did Ethan want Claire in order to give something back to the island? Would be interesting if we knew his motive. A little off topic, I know.

I like Runemuse’s idea. It fits with both Locke's recovery of the use of his legs and a possible relapse. I think Locke’s flashback will relate to an emotional jolt that caused his paralysis, not to a physical injury or illness.

I wonder if we are lapsing into animism and attributing too much to the island? Shouldn't it be about the characters reactions to being on the island? Locke’s statement about giving something back to the island could be more a reflection of his personality than a trait of (cue eerie music) “The Island”. Locke has accepted being on the island and is putting his effort into developing a reasonable life there. He may have decided that you get back out of a situation what you make out of it or put into it in the way of effort. If you sit back and say ‘oh poor me I am stranded here’, you get exactly that. If you enter into life on the island with enthusiasm you find a worthwhile existence and enjoy life. *Some of the castaways are sitting on the beach wasting away and others are putting effort into making a new life out of being on the island.

I just had another thought about this episode. In Numbers Locke was talking with Claire about helping her to recover some of her memories. I wonder if they will start to do this. Maybe we can get a small look into why Ethan took her. And maybe this has something to do with his relapse?

Just thinking out loud.

We're all just thinking out loud and feeding off each other. It's all good. Sounds like a good idea too. I want to know what happened to Claire and Charlie.

I wonder if we are lapsing into animism and attributing too much to the island? Shouldn't it be about the characters reactions to being on the island? [/u]Locke’s statement about giving something back to the island could be more a reflection of his personality than a trait of (cue eerie music) “The Island”.
I agree Fogey. I don't want to think the island is some God-like entity, but rather Lockes (somewhat skewed) perception...If this is the case, maybe when (or if)
Locke loses his ability to walk again, he takes this "giving something to the island" thing way too far and sacrifices one of the lostaways, thinking that the island will give him his legs back again.A long shot, but plausible...

I like Runemuse’s idea. It fits with both Locke's recovery of the use of his legs and a possible relapse. I think Locke’s flashback will relate to an emotional jolt that caused his paralysis, not to a physical injury or illness.

I wonder if we are lapsing into animism and attributing too much to the island? Shouldn't it be about the characters reactions to being on the island? Locke’s statement about giving something back to the island could be more a reflection of his personality than a trait of (cue eerie music) “The Island”. Locke has accepted being on the island and is putting his effort into developing a reasonable life there. He may have decided that you get back out of a situation what you make out of it or put into it in the way of effort. If you sit back and say ‘oh poor me I am stranded here’, you get exactly that. If you enter into life on the island with enthusiasm you find a worthwhile existence and enjoy life. Some of the castaways are sitting on the beach wasting away and others are putting effort into making a new life out of being on the island.
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I actually do agree that the statement of giving something to the island is not so much a physical gift, but more mental. So the ideas of sacrificing somebody as a gift to the island, or that Ethan took Claire as a gift to the island, I think are off the mark. I think that what you give is more along the lines of what Charlie did, working on his addiction, or Boone letting go of Shannon (if he even has). So if you let go of your baggage, you are healed. Nothing that dosen't apply to the real world either.

Now at the same time, there have been many references to the island being different. One example is from White Rabbit where Locke is talking with Jack...
"I'm an ordinary man Jack, meat and potatoes, I live in the real world. I'm not a big believer in magic. But this place is different. It's special. The others don't want to talk about it because it scares them."

I know that there are other references as well, the list of strange things on the island is huge So while I think that sometimes we get a bit carried away with attributing too much to the island, there is something strange here.