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macainickle
04-25-2008, 07:49 PM
I noticed that the scene with Jack and Kate talking in Jack's tent, prior to finding Doctor Ray on the beach, paralleled the final scene of Through The Looking Glass.

In both scenes Kate told Jack 'You look terrible.' In both scenes Jack smiled and told Kate 'Thanks.' In The Shape of Things to Come, Kate finds Jack taking amoxicilin and in Through The Looking Glass, Jack has been abusing pills. Kate asked Jack if he had a perscription for the medicine,he told her he had written it himself. I think this further proves that he did in fact write himself a perscription for the pills he was taking in the Through The Looking Glass. In both scenes Jack is sick, on island he is having stomach issues in the future I think he is battling depression and alcoholism.

The irony of the scenes is that in The Shape of Things to Come Jack says his gut is saying they are getting rescued. Yet in Through The Looking Glass Jack tells Kate they made a mistake and should not have left. I think it is almost a forshadowing how Kate jokingly says to Jack that she thought his gut was sick, meaning his instincts may be wrong about the rescue, in the finale we found out Jack's gut instincts about the rescue was wrong since he wants to go back to the island and says they made a mistake.

I think there are alot more scenes throughout the seasons that parallel , we just haven't found them all yet.

Macainickle

dtisme
04-25-2008, 08:08 PM
Nice catch. I look at it as a literary device- how in one scene something can mean something and in another, it can mean something else. Whether it's on purpose or not, I dunno - I suppose, if it happened too much (like, ''It'll take at least a day to get there." ..."you better leave now."), I'd say it was lazy writing. But in this case, I think you've got something.

squid
04-25-2008, 08:29 PM
I noticed that the scene with Jack and Kate talking in Jack's tent, prior to finding Doctor Ray on the beach, paralleled the final scene of Through The Looking Glass.

In both scenes Kate told Jack 'You look terrible.' In both scenes Jack smiled and told Kate 'Thanks.' In The Shape of Things to Come, Kate finds Jack taking amoxicilin and in Through The Looking Glass, Jack has been abusing pills. Kate asked Jack if he had a perscription for the medicine,he told her he had written it himself. I think this further proves that he did in fact write himself a perscription for the pills he was taking in the Through The Looking Glass. In both scenes Jack is sick, on island he is having stomach issues in the future I think he is battling depression and alcoholism.

The irony of the scenes is that in The Shape of Things to Come Jack says his gut is saying they are getting rescued. Yet in Through The Looking Glass Jack tells Kate they made a mistake and should not have left. I think it is almost a forshadowing how Kate jokingly says to Jack that she thought his gut was sick, meaning his instincts may be wrong about the rescue, in the finale we found out Jack's gut instincts about the rescue was wrong since he wants to go back to the island and says they made a mistake.

I think there are alot more scenes throughout the seasons that parallel , we just haven't found them all yet.

Macainickle

Interesting observations. This show has so many layers sometimes it is overwhelming. Thanks for pointing the parallels out. I think you're right that there are probably a lot more, but not having the dvds (or the time to rewatch the shows) I'm not going to be the one to find them, unfortunately:frown:

Nice catch. I look at it as a literary device- how in one scene something can mean something and in another, it can mean something else. Whether it's on purpose or not, I dunno - I suppose, if it happened too much (like, ''It'll take at least a day to get there." ..."you better leave now."), I'd say it was lazy writing. But in this case, I think you've got something.
A literary device, indeed. It reminds me of a symphonic theme, repeated with variations throughout the entire piece. Anytime something is repeated I think it adds emphasis and importance to whatever is being repeated, albeit in a slightly different guise. IMO, you're also right about the occassionally lazy writing... but I think that with the level of complexity there are somethings that bear repeating, rather like the old recitative poetry such as Beowulf or Njal's Saga or the Illiad... certain things were repeated, too much new information too close together would loose the listeners and make the narrative incomprehensible to them. I think a similar principle could be in force for LOST's narrative style.
squid