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BrothaJefe316
05-04-2008, 05:32 PM
With the appearance of a certain C.S. Lewis on the show this season, people have started to notice the parallels between LOST and the Narnia books.

Those parallels are there, to be sure, but what if we're missing the intended allusion here and the presence of a C.S. Lewis is meant to also draw our attention to one of Lewis' other works, The Great Divorce? This episode really made me think of it, with the talk of them being in Heaven, the appearance of Christian Shephard (another C.S.), and the possibility (which is starting to make more sense to me, although I'm not sold on it) that Claire is already dead.

The Great Divorce is a story about heaven and hell. Lewis explains in the preface to the book that he does not intend it as a work of Christian theology or eschatology, rather an allegory about life. The main thrust of the narrative points to the notion that whether one is destined for heaven or hell, they've already been there all along, throughout their life on earth, on the physical plane. Heaven and hell aren't a future thing but here and now. In that sense, heaven and hell are really the same place - what makes it either heaven or hell for each individual is how that individual chooses to live and respond to life.

I am not a fan of the theory that they are *literally* in some form of afterlife, be it heaven, hell, purgatory, or whatever. I think Hurley is in fact delusional in this episode (at least regarding the idea that they're dead and in heaven).

But throughout the series (and my examples are by no means exhaustive - there are likely many more) especially lately, notice how some have compared their surroundings - either on- or off-Island - to heaven or hell - Cooper in the brig of the Black Rock, Hurley in this past episode, Sawyer doesn't call the Island heaven in Eggtown, but he definitely gives a utopian picture of life on the Island - they have power, water, food, etc. etc.... all of their needs are met, which is quite a heavenly state of living.

And so perhaps the repeated references to heaven and hell and whatnot are not meant to be literal inferences to some sort of "they're all dead, in heaven, in purgatory, or wherever" theory, but perhaps they're a shout out to an excellent piece of writing - lesser known than Narnia - by C.S. Lewis.

nancy
05-04-2008, 05:42 PM
This is something to give some thought to. Do you think that people are able to move from one to the other (from heaven to hell or hell to heaven)? I need to go back and read CS Lewis again.

BrothaJefe316
05-04-2008, 06:20 PM
This is something to give some thought to. Do you think that people are able to move from one to the other (from heaven to hell or hell to heaven)? I need to go back and read CS Lewis again.

In The Great Divorce, yes, they can.

LostFan42
05-04-2008, 10:04 PM
Interesting theory! Based on what you've described (I've never read TGD), I can definitely see more parallels with The Great Divorce than with the Narnia books. Some other examples that I can think of off the top of my head...

--Sun asking Shannon "do you think we're being punished" (i.e. for things done before the island). Shannon asks her "who do you think is punishing us?" ... Claire says there is no fate
--Eko confessing to FHenry (Ben) about killing the others who tried to kidnap him, and saying something like "I want you to know that I'm back on the righteous path now."
--Smokey (as Eko's brother Yemi) judging Eko, insisting that he repent
--Desmond's catch phrase of "see you in another life, brother"
--Charlie's dreams about saving Aarron and the whole baptism theme (i.e. cleansing of sin)

I'm sure there are many more. I will have to check out TGD...thanks for the lead.

nancy
05-04-2008, 10:28 PM
If they can move back and forth between heaven and hell, that makes an interesting parallel. Clearly, from the very beginning, there has been an element of the Lost story that has concerned redemption and being spiritually lost and found. My understanding of Lewis's idea of heaven and hell is that hell is wherever there is the absence of God's presence. Hence, in Narnia, the White Witch had frozen everything so that it was "always winter but never Christmas" (Christmas here being not just lights and toys, but the arrival of the Baby Jesus.) Hell, then, would be a place without love, mercy, grace, and all of the light and warmth that God's presence brings. The "grayness" of jacob's cabin and the undead do make them seem in between two realms somehow. Things to think about.

Pythagoras99
05-05-2008, 12:46 PM
Very interesting. Swedenborg was a huge influence on Lewis's thinking, and that sounds like it's right out of Swedenborg's descriptions of heaven and hell. I don't know if there are any intentional references to the book you're talking about, but I think the kinds of themes and concepts you're talking about are definitely there.

BrothaJefe316
05-10-2008, 11:57 PM
Very interesting. Swedenborg was a huge influence on Lewis's thinking, and that sounds like it's right out of Swedenborg's descriptions of heaven and hell. I don't know if there are any intentional references to the book you're talking about, but I think the kinds of themes and concepts you're talking about are definitely there.

I don't know about Swedenborg being a *huge* influence on Lewis' thinking, but in the Wikipedia article on Great Divorce, Swedenborg is cited as an influence in Lewis' allegorical portrayal of heaven and hell in that book specifically.

At any rate, it really is a great read, on a lot of levels, and I highly recommend it. It's a quick read, too... 140-some-odd pages, I think, and large print. I got through it in a single night in college. =)