Okay, I just need to randomly SQUEEEEEEEEEE somewhere!!!!

Gilmore Girls...TONIGHT....BEST EPISODE OPENING EVER!!!!

I love Luke and Lorelei...I LOVE THEM!!!!! *drops dead from how happy she is*

*gets up again, because SQUEEEING while dead turns out to present some problems*

Anyone who watches....DO YOU FEEL ME???

They are possibly the sweetest couple on the face of the planet...WITHOUT being annoying...GUH, GUH, GUH, GUH

As Soon as

He said yes...

I just burst into tears of happiness....LITERALLY!!!!!

....may be back later to ramble incoherently some more....

Any Gilmore Girls Fans out there?

Did anyone catch the Season Premiere?

I'm barely coherent right now because I'm still on such a high from the beginning of it. I literally burst into tears I was so happy...lol

QE... that's GREAT news....
I :heart: Gilmore Girls!!!!
(and I still can't stay away from spoilers...)

Gilmore Gorls was great last night. I just love Luke. Why can't I find a man like him? Anyway. Yay for Luke and Lorelei!

Did you get a feeling last night that Rory's boyfriend is going to break up with her for her own good? The look on his face after she was talking about being the queen of the slackers just seemed like Uh-oh, what did I do? I think he may intervein some how to keep her from dropping out of Yale (I hope).

I've caught the odd episode over the past couple of years, and I did see most of last night's premeire. It's definitely not a "guy show", but I enjoy it sometimes for its wit and humor.

Lorelai is my favorite character, and in fact she's pretty much the only one I find sympathetic. Rory and her boyfriend are spoiled trust-fund babies, and I want to smack those awful grandparents. Luke is OK, but he's kind of a drama queen sometimes, there's a bottle of Valium with his name on it somewhere. Maybe I haven't seen him at his best. The French guy from the inn is funny, I like him too.

It's just kind of weird that this is a family drama and I can only find one character to root for. I'm used to that when watching comedies, and in fact I think those can benefit from unlikeable characters. There's no denying the show is well-made, though, probably the class of WB.

I thought it was good last night too.

You know this is REALLY wierd...somehow they' ve taken posts I made on the promenade about Gilmore Girls and added them to this thread....ROFL. The first post here was just meant for SQUEEING purposes among my friends...LOL ;)

Lorelai is my favorite character, and in fact she's pretty much the only one I find sympathetic. Rory and her boyfriend are spoiled trust-fund babies, and I want to smack those awful grandparents. Luke is OK, but he's kind of a drama queen sometimes, there's a bottle of Valium with his name on it somewhere. Maybe I haven't seen him at his best. The French guy from the inn is funny, I like him too.

You know I gotta say that I love all of the characters on this show...except Dean when he was on...because he bored me. Lorelei is my favourite though...Lauren Graham is my idol! I love Rory, although I do think she's made some bad choices lately. I don't fault Logan though and I do actually think they make a good couple. I think he's actually against the decisions she's making, but he's supporting her and offering his advice every once and awhile, without appearing pushy or interfering. He even told her that he thinks she belongs in school

With Lorelei's parents...I actually adore them, but I want to claw their eyes out when they get into certain 'modes'. Their relationship with Lorelei is so complex and they have moments where it's quite touching, and others where I feel so betrayed on behalf of her...just WATCHING them. But their relationship with eachother is really quite sweet...how in love they are after all their years together. They actors play their roles brilliantly as well...particularly Kelly Bishop.

Luke Danes...well he's the perfect man. He's the type of guy that will do incredibly romantic things for someone, then brush them off like it's nothing...like he doesn't want to make a big deal. He's sarcastic and gruff and yet INCREDIBLY loving. He would be there for Lorelei in any situation and she could see that after her fallout with Rory and it overwhelmed her in a good way because she realized he's the one person she can always count on.

Gilmore Girls was great last night! :clap: Happiness:) for Luke and Lorelai (she is my favorite character too) I did get the feeling that Rory's bf is gonna talk her into going back to school. or she will go by herself...but he definitely looked like he was feeling guilty for her dropping out! hahaah who else thought it was hilarious when babette held her boobs while runnning? hehehe:rotflmao:

I like the gilmore girls, but they kinda bg me, they never shut up...it gives me a headache if I watch too long...

I love Gilmore Girls. I like the constant chatter, because most of the time it brings some sort of humor. Lorelai is my favorite too. Lauren Graham is just amazing!I was going to name my baby Lauren after her as a matter of fact, but I changed my mind. Because my boyfriend didn't really like that. And I didnt either after I heard why. Old girlfriend so thats a big NO!

But Rory was like my idol and then she just went way downhill when she went to collage.She doesnt even act like herself anymore!And at first I did like Dean a lot until season 3. And I hated Jess until the middle of season 3. Then I started to like him.But then again I liked Logan at first and now he's just trouble. Im not crazy about him. I sotra agree with Lorelai.I think Rory should try listing to her mom after all Lorelai's done for her shes treating her like crap!

And in the season finally, by the end of that epsoide Lorelai had pretty much nobody.Her parents had betrayed her and so had Rory

.Luke is one awsome man! He sticks with Lorelai through her hard times. He's the man for her.They're perfect for each other!

.Luke is one awsome man! He sticks with Lorelai through her hard times. He's the man for her.They're perfect for each other!

EXACTLY...that's why I loved the SHE proposed to HIM. Because everyone in her life had basically betrayed or abandoned her...and she goes to Luke's diner and tells him what happened, and the man just starts ranting about fixing everything...basically telling her he'd do the most ridiculous things imaginable to make her happy...SIGH

And you could really see in her face in the finale...when it started to shift from being upset...to realizing what she had right in front of her. She was staring at him with the softest expression while he was going on and on about kidnapping Rory and forcing her to go back to school...almost in awe of him. It was the sweetest thing in the world...and I could just SEE it coming when she asked him to marry her.

wait, I saw this thing that said "what was it that Rory did that shocked Laroli" or however you spell it...

what did she do??

It was.That was one of the best cliffhangers i've ever seen. My dad's favorite show is Gilmore Girls.Hes a big romantic too(now i know where i got it from). My dad was cussing after Chris caused Luke to break up with Lorelai. He was the maddest ive seen him in a while;P. He was so happy that he said yes. Cause he thought Luke would say no scence she proposed to him and then hed go back at the end and propose to her. Then he flipped from that to just thinking hed say no. He was thinking about that all summer. Who said it wasn't a mans show:p?

SPOILER at the bottom not Loelai and Luke related. You might have already heard this, i dont get out much:p.

Jess is going to come back and causes a rift between Rory & Logan later this season

I would answer you Liz_lost_fan, but im not getting what your saying.

I saw this fold out thing in EW, adn there were little questions for each show, and Gilmore Girls was "what did Rory do that shocked Loroli"

I saw this fold out thing in EW, adn there were little questions for each show, and Gilmore Girls was "what did Rory do that shocked Loroli"

That was for the DVD release of Season 4 :). And I'm fairly sure they are referring to when Rory slept with Dean. They weren't dating...it was her first time having sex...and he was married ;)

ooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...rory's a slut...lol, jk

Oh yeah your right Rory is being a sult, lol:p.

had to go back and find this thread
as we all know .. Jess is back tonight!!! and I can't wait.
finally someone's going to tell Rory how stupid she has been LOL

Hello,

I think I may be one of the 2% of men who watch this show. Haha, it started because of my innocent crush on Alexis but the wittiness of this show now has me hooked. Wasn't a big fan of Jess but I surely hope he puts Rory back in her place.

lol...(4.8.15.16.23.42)...my brother watches it! He's actually catching up on the first 5 seasons with re-runs on the Women's Network :lol:

Anyway...I LOVED Jess in tonight's episode. I really do believe that he knows Rory better than Dean ever did and even than Logan does now. Maybe they won't end up together...but they're soulmates for sure! :biggrin:. He kinda DID put her in her place...or at least get her to really examine what she's doing with her life.

I can just SMELL the Rory/Lorelei reunion...it HAS to be coming up soon...and I seriously can't wait!!!

I think I may be one of the 2% of men who watch this show. Haha, it started because of my innocent crush on Alexis but the wittiness of this show now has me hooked. Wasn't a big fan of Jess but I surely hope he puts Rory back in her place.
hello 4.8.15.16.23.42 LOL .. well I think he (jess) did a pretty good job of putting Rory in her place without getting to preachy if you know what I mean.
he basically shed some light on her idioticy when no one else was willing to tell her how stupid she was being LOL

QueenElessar I just can't stand Logan anymore, and it's obvious that he blames himself for Rory's Yale situation or he wouldn't have gone on the way he did IMO...it's not his fault and he must care about her if he's feeling so guilty but I just don't like him!! LOL

Logan was so rude to Jess.. I was suprised Jess didn't lunge across that table LOL
and I can't believe Rory finally told off Emily and how funny that emily referred to Richard as "your father" when grounding Rory and threatening with "wait until your father gets home" LOL
and that reunion is coming soon!! can't wait LOL unfortunately looks like other issues are about to go *splat* :(
*ramble*

Yeah, never been a fan of Logan either....wow, come to think of it, I've never been a fan of any of Rory's guys...probably because I'm jealous of 'em. Aaaaaaanyway, I am sure glad Jess is back and I think he needs to put Logan in his place too.

Did anyone happen to notice the glowing discusssion of what a wonderful city Philadelphia is? I felt like it was a Philly commercial. Yay Gilmore Girls!

I can't wait to see tonoight's episode. I hope Luke and Lorelie are ok. Just let them be happy!

Me too, can't wait for tonight.

Did anyone else think the Luke plot on tonight's episode seemed really random? It felt like more of a "we need a new plot, we're running out of ideas" than an actual plot....

At least Rori and Lorelei are back together!

Hmm...no I didn't find Luke's plot random really...But then I knew it was coming because I'm spoiled ;) LOL

I think it's an interesting development though...because up to this point, all the 'baggage' or the major roadblocks in the Luke/Lorelei relationship, have come from her side. First there were her parents, then Christopher, then her and Rory were fighthing...Luke has always stuck by her, no matter what. Now he's suddently got this huge issue that he was completely unaware of. It'll be interesting to see Lorelei's reaction to that...and how it affects their relationship.

But how perfect was the Lorelei and Rory reunion??!! It's exactly how I pictured it! One of them calling the other up, like nothing was ever wrong...banter, banter...then they'd come together, like they'd never been apart. I love those two! :biggrin:

well the plot was a bit random but I think it was intended to be so, I think it was meant to be an "out of nowhere" strike if you know what I mean.

agreed QueenElessar the reunion was just like I hoped it would be!! LOL..
but whay can't we just have our *yay!!* moment.. without being followed by on *oh-crap* moment?? LOL

and for those of you who watched the trailer for next week I have to say ... "Im so over Christopher!! I hate that he's coming back on the show cuz.. where he goes trouble follows, EVERY time *grumbles* and now Luke is going to feel inadaquate now that Christopher has millions$$ to offer the Lorelai's, grr! go away Christopher!! LOL

Yeah, I guess the Luke thing was intended to be random, I guess what bothered me about it was that he didn't know he'd had a kid the whole time...it seems really unfair, since he's always wanted kids (although he's said he didn't) and it seems weird that he didn't know he already had one. I guess they'll explain the whole thing in the next episode, though.

Well...clearly whoever the mother is (don't remember the name right now), didn't want to tell Luke. It was probably someone he dated briefly. It seems totally plausible to me, that she just wouldn't tell him...and he'd never suspect.

What I find REALLY strange, is that Luke's daughter doesn't seem to care less that she found out her's her father. A young girl whose never known her father...shouldn't she be a TAD more emotional about finding him???

*sigh* Damn, here's another show I need to catch up on! LOL...okay, I know what's going on the Xmas list to everyone. :D

I can't wait for new episodes!...which, if anyone is intersted, start Jan 10 :)

Here is the description for episode 11 from spoilerfix...

12/23 - Feeling that he has missed too much and wants to get to know his newly discovered daughter April (Vanessa Marano, who does not appear in the episode), Luke goes to have a talk with her mother, his former girlfriend Anna Nardini (guest star Sherilyn Fenn). Meanwhile, Lorelai sets a date for the wedding after finding the perfect dress, but she is worried by the nagging feeling that something is about to go wrong. Back at Yale, Rory happily moves into a dingy off-campus apartment with Paris and Doyle, and tries to avoid running into Logan. However, when Logan shows up at her apartment and declares his love for her, Rory breaks down. Melissa McCarthy, Keiko Agena, Yanic Truesdale and Sean Gunn also star. Source: The WB

hey. I just changed my avi, to a Gilmore Girls one, so i thought why not come on here for a bit? lol.

Cept i cant really chat....in Australia we are only up to the ep in Season 4 where Luke's sister Liz gets married, and Jess asks Rory to come with him and she says no. Yeah, we are pretty far behind coz out TV network only shows Gilmore Girls in the non-ratings season (which is now).

RORY AND JESS FOREVER! :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

RORY AND JESS FOREVER![/SIZE] :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:

I concur!!! :biggrin:

I concur!!! :biggrin:

Pardon? Concur??? lol. i ahve no idea wat that means, but hopefully it means you agree with me bout Rory and Jess!

Pardon? Concur??? lol. i ahve no idea wat that means, but hopefully it means you agree with me bout Rory and Jess!

lol....yes...sorry...concur means that you wholeheartedly agree with another persons assessment ;)

I have always thought that Rory and Jess were perfect together. I think their relationship suffered on screen because Jess was supposed to get his own show...and had to leave the Gilmore Girls. So...as soon as they got together...they went downhill in order for it to make sense when he left. I think if he'd been sticking around, it would have played out very differently! :)

Hey Y'all!

I didn't know Jess was supposed to get his own show. What happened with that?

Also....thanks for the information as to when the new episodes come back on! I was just searching for that this morning! Yeah! They're back next week.

I have to say that I agree with you both about Jess and Rory, but I can't help but ADORE Logan! Adore him! :smile:

Hey Y'all!

I didn't know Jess was supposed to get his own show. What happened with that?

Also....thanks for the information as to when the new episodes come back on! I was just searching for that this morning! Yeah! They're back next week.

I have to say that I agree with you both about Jess and Rory, but I can't help but ADORE Logan! Adore him! :smile:

I love Logan a lot too...I just don't think he's perfect for Rory ;)

Oh...about Jess' show...in the season finale of Season 3 GG...Jess goes to stay with his dad. THAT was supposed to be the lead in to his own show in Venice Beach. However, due to the cost of shooting there...it never got off the ground.

I love Logan a lot too...I just don't think he's perfect for Rory ;)

Oh...about Jess' show...in the season finale of Season 3 GG...Jess goes to stay with his dad. THAT was supposed to be the lead in to his own show in Venice Beach. However, due to the cost of shooting there...it never got off the ground.

There was going to be a Jess show? Oh Damn, i :heart: jess!!

I always thought that Jess and Rory's realtionship went downhill kinda weirdly....i mean everything was good, and then....it kinda wasnt. Coz our tv network took it off, for like 2 years, we are so behind! So i'm gonna pretend i know who Logan is!:biggrin:

I have a feeling we have seen the last of Logan as Rory's boyfriend. Maybe she'll get back with Jess...personally I hope the writers have the guts to focus on Rory as an independent working woman/student NOT a relationship obsessed nutcase. There are enough of those characters on TV.

The real question: Will Paul Anka get over his shoe obsession?

I tried to love Logan, but I don't trust him. Thanks for the spoiler, as I missed the newest epi. LOVE THE GILLMORE GIRLS!

I tried to love Logan, but I don't trust him. Thanks for the spoiler, as I missed the newest epi. LOVE THE GILLMORE GIRLS!
what spoiler--they broke up several eps ago---not my fault if you are that far behind.

How long do I have to use the Spoiler Font?
The NEW spoiler guideline is that spoilers will be fonted on the Linear Board for THREE Days after the eppy airs.

Show was on Tuesday...do the math.

what spoiler--they broke up several eps ago---not my fault if you are that far behind.

How long do I have to use the Spoiler Font?
The NEW spoiler guideline is that spoilers will be fonted on the Linear Board for THREE Days after the eppy airs.

Show was on Tuesday...do the math.

Holy cow you are touchy. I was ACTUALLY thanking you for filling me in. Crap! I was being genuinely grateful and POLITE. Get a grip! Been overly attacked lately or something. What I meant was, THANK YOU. Geez.

Holy cow you are touchy. I was ACTUALLY thanking you for filling me in. Crap! I was being genuinely grateful and POLITE. Get a grip! Been overly attacked lately or something. What I meant was, THANK YOU. Geez.

Well, the "word" spoiler is negative in the context of a board like this. So I can see how that was misunderstood. Only use the word spoiler if it means you are getting information you didn't want to get or shouldn't have gotten. Like if the show was on in my time zone and I spilled the beans b4 it aired in your time zone. Or I knew that Lorelei was going to become a nun in next week's episide and I let that one fly. But getting a fair update is not a spoiler. See Television Without Pity for extremely good show summaries of GG.

But I digress...GG is stilll very watchable, though it is past its prime. I guess they'll wring another season out of it, but I hope that's it. I don't know what the story is with the Jess spin-off, maybe that's why he's back. When Lorelei and Luke get married won't Jess and Rory be related...or is that too distant to matter. I can't remember how Jess is related to Luke.

I'm sorry i probz shouldnt come here if you are like that with spoilers. I'm Aussie...and we''re far behind with everything. :(

I'm sorry i probz shouldnt come here if you are like that with spoilers. I'm Aussie...and we''re far behind with everything. :(

So, we can talk about the show, but only if we don't discuss the characters, plot, writing or anything else that actually aired within the last 5 years. Wow that sounds like fun. What we're left with is talking about people's haircuts, although they have changed lately so that might be a spoiler for somone in Finland so we better not mention it.

So, we can talk about the show, but only if we don't discuss the characters, plot, writing or anything else that actually aired within the last 5 years. Wow that sounds like fun. What we're left with is talking about people's haircuts, although they have changed lately so that might be a spoiler for somone in Finland so we better not mention it.

All i said is that i probably wont come on here anymore. Its not my fault. And we arent that far behind, we are at the start of Season 5 in Australia. So really, discuss whatever you want because i'm not coming back anyway!!!

oh my gosh! What did I do? I just said, "thank you" and meant it. sorry for starting all the excitment.

So, we can talk about the show, but only if we don't discuss the characters, plot, writing or anything else that actually aired within the last 5 years. Wow that sounds like fun. What we're left with is talking about people's haircuts, although they have changed lately so that might be a spoiler for somone in Finland so we better not mention it.

My my, aren't we trying to make friends!

The poster you were snarking on had pretty much said they weren't coming back and did it in a respectable way. Nice of you to kick someone when they're down. Now knock it off.

My my, aren't we trying to make friends!

The poster you were snarking on had pretty much said they weren't coming back and did it in a respectable way. Nice of you to kick someone when they're down. Now knock it off.

Just a calm suggestion HiJinx. If you don't want posters to make personal attacks, then don't do it yourself. Posting things like that on the board seem to be meant solely to be a public flogging.

I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job. I am glad the boards are cleaned up regularly and am generally happy with the way things go around here.

Just a calm suggestion HiJinx. If you don't want posters to make personal attacks, then don't do it yourself. Posting things like that on the board seem to be meant solely to be a public flogging.

I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job. I am glad the boards are cleaned up regularly and am generally happy with the way things go around here.


Do you think the mods should just let guys like this run over everybody? This board is not like the other boards out there, so if you are happy with the way things are, thats great. If not, then there are other boards who dont monitor anything or try to keep peace, they just delete your thread without comment or warning. Based on Eugene's history, hijinx's comment is not out of line at all.

Do you think the mods should just let guys like this run over everybody? This board is not like the other boards out there, so if you are happy with the way things are, thats great. If not, then there are other boards who dont monitor anything or try to keep peace, they just delete your thread without comment or warning. Based on Eugene's history, hijinx's comment is not out of line at all.

Hi Diabolo. I have no doubt the guy's a jerk. But it might pay to be a bit Zen about it sometimes. Hostility to end hostility. We're all a bit guilty of letting our feelings get the better of us, eh.

btw If you're the DEVIL where is the ANGEL?:biggrin:

She's sitting next to me, wondering if I am ever getting off the computer (she wants to check out QVC's site **dreadful**) :angel:
I think we tried Zen and to no avail, so...

But it might pay to be a bit Zen about it sometimes. Hostility to end hostility. We're all a bit guilty of letting our feelings get the better of us, eh.



Just a calm suggestion HiJinx. If you don't want posters to make personal attacks, then don't do it yourself. Posting things like that on the board seem to be meant solely to be a public flogging.

I'm not trying to tell you how to do your job. I am glad the boards are cleaned up regularly and am generally happy with the way things go around here.

here is a good suggestion for you, as you are fairly new to the site. :)
dont get in the middle of the color fonted MODs when they are doing their job.
there is no way that you could know all the context with which she posted her comments.
yes it looks harsh however this is a big site and there are things going on that you may
not have seen. so if you see one of us pop into a thread and post a seemingly rude comment...
just stay clear and keep discussing the topic of the thread as if nothing is going on. :)
thanks.

I have a right to an opinion. Period.

Is it time to start a new Gilmore thread yet?

I have a right to an opinion. Period.

Is it time to start a new Gilmore thread yet?

Skeleton,
But you do not have the right to post here. Period.

Your serve.

So, anyways, has anyone else noticed how much like Lorelei Luke's daughter is? Geez, the sentence came out backwards.

So anyway, what are people's reactions to how Luke is acting. I have to say that I'm a bit dissapointed in his current attitude. I can understand that he's freaked out, but post-poning the wedding? I don't know. I really hope they don't put any more kinks into this relationship. I know I've said it before, but just let them be happy. If they want drama use Rory for that.

My my, aren't we trying to make friends!

The poster you were snarking on had pretty much said they weren't coming back and did it in a respectable way. Nice of you to kick someone when they're down. Now knock it off.

Thankyou. And personally i think the site pplz do a great job- i mean , this site is huge and we really dont know what goes on, do we?

Everyone have fun discussing Gilmore Girls anyway:biggrin: Great Show

drama in the GG thread? never saw it coming LOL count to 10 ya'll ;)

*WARNING: discussion of the most recent eppy, just an FYI :biggrin: *

ok Philly : I totally agree with you, I'm not sure what's up with Luke, true he has a daughter now but she's almost a teen,it's not like he's needed to raise her, I'll just get to the point and say I don't see how this really affects Luke marrying Lorelai.. not discounting his newly found daughter I just don't understand why that = a postponment.I was yelling things at my TV last night LOL poor Lorelai!! he hurt her and he's to wrappd up to notice :(

ok the Kim's crack me up.. and Zach's line of Welcome to SH b*tch!!, I see many icons being made LOL also "Im curious as to what Lore wrote in that letter to Rory about Logan, wonder if they'll touch on that again later.

IF YOU SAW VERY NEWEST EPPY:
I thought it was really strange that Luke was acting like that. But i guess the point was to make the audience a bit frustrated and yell at the screen (like with Lost). I think Lorelei of all people would understand his situation. He waited WAY to long to tell her. Weird. I thought it was also weird that they made her so much like Lorelei and Rory, the fast talking smarty-pants thing. Not really sure where they're going with that. Obviously the woman who plays her mom (i cant remember the actresses name, but you know) is going to be a distraction too. You know they couldn't let this marriage go forward smoothly!!!

I love The Gilmore Girls, it's not really popular here in the UK and I dunno when we'll get to see the 6th Series, but I'm keeping an eye out, and still watching re-runs of previous episodes.

IF YOU SAW VERY NEWEST EPPY:
I thought it was also weird that they made her so much like Lorelei and Rory, the fast talking smarty-pants thing. Not really sure where they're going with that.



Isn't pretty much every character on the show like that?

I like to think about how long the script of an episode of Gilmore Girls is when compared with a script of an episode of LOST.....So much more dialogue...cause they ALL talk to frickin' fast!

Isn't pretty much every character on the show like that?

I like to think about how long the script of an episode of Gilmore Girls is when compared with a script of an episode of LOST.....So much more dialogue...cause they ALL talk to frickin' fast!

GG venting:

Yes, but they took it too far this time. They could just have Lauren Graham and Alexis Bledel put on wigs and play all 4 roles. It seems like lazy writing to create this world where everyone in the state are wise-cracking pop-culture-spewing eccentric basketcases, how many people in one area can be that wacky? I know, it's just TV.

What about the Rory/Logan reunion??? bleck. But I guess they are going for bleck. New eppy tonight with more potential bleckyness.

And what about Rory's heartbreaking choice between living a life of leisure as a socialite with a trust fund and going back to Yale with all expenses paid? I'm having trouble feeling the drama there.

Rory and Logan are blecky. I don't think he deserves her.

GG venting:

Yes, but they took it too far this time. They could just have Lauren Graham and Alexis Bledel put on wigs and play all 4 roles. It seems like lazy writing to create this world where everyone in the state are wise-cracking pop-culture-spewing eccentric basketcases, how many people in one area can be that wacky? I know, it's just TV.


ok if you saw last nights ep - what about the dialogue between The Gilmore parents and Loreli?? Poor Luke just sat there feeling like he got hit by a bus! I love GG and love their banter but sometimes you have to shake your head at commercial breaks to figure out what happened!!
And Logan doesn't deserve Rory - coming up soon we find out that Rory finds out about possibly other girl(s) while they were split but he is now a cast regular.

When I saw Logan in the opening credits I knew that my fate was sealed. I must put up with blechyness for a bit. I also felt really bad for Luke.

When I saw Logan in the opening credits I knew that my fate was sealed. I must put up with blechyness for a bit. I also felt really bad for Luke.

Felt bad for Luke? I'm still mad at him for post-poning the wedding and not telling Lorelei about his daughter.

I'm not happy about Logan being back either. I thought it was funny that Christopher liked him though. And I was proud of Lorelei for keeping her mouth closed on what she thought about Rory and Logan living together.

It looks like Lorelei has learned her lesson.

OK, Did anyone else think that maybe Lorelei is starting to relate to Logan? She seemed to have some sympathy for him last night.

OK, Did anyone else think that maybe Lorelei is starting to relate to Logan? She seemed to have some sympathy for him last night.

Yeah it seemed like she is starting to understand what Logan is going thru with that &$(%*@*#&# of a father of his with what she went thru with her parents.

And still VERY annoyed at Luke with this daughter/postponing the wedding. Why can't he just open his eyes and see Lorelei's heart is breaking over this?? Or I guess another question would be - why doens't Lorelei just tell him Hey! Listen! You have a daughter, you're supposed to be marrying me, why are you hiding her from me when you're so much apart of Rory's life?? She has to tell him about the "save a date" calls she got - it was his wedding as much as her's - he's got to know what she's going through.

If they split Luke and Lorelei up again, I'll scream. . . well not really . . . it is only tv, but I'd be pretty annoyed!

Yeah it seemed like she is starting to understand what Logan is going thru with that &$(%*@*#&# of a father of his with what she went thru with her parents.

And still VERY annoyed at Luke with this daughter/postponing the wedding. Why can't he just open his eyes and see Lorelei's heart is breaking over this?? Or I guess another question would be - why doens't Lorelei just tell him Hey! Listen! You have a daughter, you're supposed to be marrying me, why are you hiding her from me when you're so much apart of Rory's life?? She has to tell him about the "save a date" calls she got - it was his wedding as much as her's - he's got to know what she's going through.

I agree that the writers are using awkwardness and annoyance as a substitute for dramatic tension. I hope the rest of the season is less aggravating. Perhaps we've jumped a shark or few on this series. Speaking of annoying, when is Paris going to be committed to the mental hospital: before or after the newspaper room shooting?

holy cow! Paris has lost it!

Speaking of annoying, when is Paris going to be committed to the mental hospital: before or after the newspaper room shooting?

Hahahaha, that just made my day....

We last left off with Psycho-Paris, Wishy Washy Luke, Uber Student Rory, Brooding Lorelei, Unnecessary April, Lane and her chaotic garage band...and the rest here on Gilligan's Isle.

Ok, so Lane is now engaged to that guy in her band...why she said yes is a mystery since he acted like the biggest nutjob at the last gig, ruining their chance at a record label deal and breaking up the band. Then he confronts her in the diner and asks for her hand in marriage---and she says yes. WHAT???

Paris has apparently calmed down thank God!

Please tell me Logan is out of the picture for good---if they get back together I'm never watching again. That guy is an STD waiting to happen.

Sorry...but I think Logan may be around for awhile. I actually have to say that I like the guy. He's second to Jess in terms of the boyfriends that Rory has had...and I HATED Dean. I think he's a playboy who's learning to settle down...and so he slept with a bunch of people while they were broken up. There are far worse things that someone could do...and it's clear that he really loves her.

I like Lane's engagement...I think her and Zach make a cute couple. Yeah Zach had a minor meltdown...but who hasn't? He was always incredibly good to her before that. He just got upset and handled it badly.

And I'll go on record and say that I like April. I think it's interesting that Luke has a daughter. It may be frustrating for us now...just because there's NO good reason why he won't just involve Lorelei in that whole thing. If he introduced her to April properly, and the three of them hung out together, it would be perfect. But if Luke and Lorelei are perfectly happy...then there's nowhere to go from there. So we have to have some obstacles. They'll overcome it...they always do :)

I agree Queen E -- I like April. She's the right kind of kid to be around Luke. She's got a pretty strong self-preservation mechanism and actually seems similiar to him in personality.

I also agree that Logan is around to stay, but I do NOT like him. I understand that I might sound sort of old school, but if he loved her so much, why was it so easy for him to sleep around while they were broken up? I mean, if he knew her well he would know how much that would upset her later -- if he was planning to get her back. I just don't like him. I didn't like Jess either. I sort of like Dean, but they got together too young and he didn't get her completely.

I also agree that Logan is around to stay, but I do NOT like him. I understand that I might sound sort of old school, but if he loved her so much, why was it so easy for him to sleep around while they were broken up? I mean, if he knew her well he would know how much that would upset her later -- if he was planning to get her back. I just don't like him. I didn't like Jess either. I sort of like Dean, but they got together too young and he didn't get her completely.

Well because some people handle sex differently. Someone like Rory would probably be too broken up over Logan to have sex with anyone else while they were broken up. But someone like Logan would be more likely to try to bury himself in meaningless sex to get over his heartache. It doesn't mean she loves him more than he loves her...it's that people deal with heartbreak in many different ways. He wasn't sleeping around for fun...he was doing it as a method of coping. They WERE broken up. He's never cheated on her. I just think that it's a little silly of her to judge someone on how they choose to handle pain. Logan slept around with all kinds of people...trying to forget Rory...then realized he couldn't do it...that she was all that mattered to him...so he tried to win her back. I don't see the bad there. I understand why she would be hurt. It's never fun to think about someone you love being with all kinds of people. But I don't think it should break them up for good.

That's my point though, Logan must know that his choice to have meaningless sex would hurt Rori, and so his greatest act of love for her would be to sacrifice his needs and habits for her. And of course my own views on love and sex color how I view Logan. I think he's selfish and uncommitted, but I also think Rori was foolish to give her life and dreams over to someone so uncommitted.

But at the time he had sex with those women...he thought it was over between him and Rory. I just think that everyone has the right to handle their grief in their own way. And it's selfish of other people to get angry at how someone deals with their pain...and to take it personally. They weren't together at the time, so what right does Rory have to get self righteous about it?

I don't know...I realize people see this differently, but I'm just not into people getting on their high horses. And to me that's what it seems like she's doing.

Abstaining from sex may be Rory's way of dealing...so Logan should automatically do it her way? Maybe she should have to go sleep with a football team and do it HIS way ;). My point is simply that I think Rory is the one whose being selfish because she's suggesting to Logan that simply because SHE didn't feel like sleeping around to drown her sorrows...he shouldn't have either.

I can see your point. I just don't agree, but any time you start talking about sex people all have different opinons. I just mistrust any guy who sleeps around a lot. I assume he'll do it again. I feel oddly protective of Rori and it seems like she's been making some stupid decisions lately. Although, it is good to have her mess up -- she was getting kind of annoyingly perfect there for awhile.

I also agree that Logan is around to stay, but I do NOT like him. I understand that I might sound sort of old school, but if he loved her so much, why was it so easy for him to sleep around while they were broken up?

I know QE had a lot of great responses, but my first reaction to your question is, Because he's a guy. Guys just have a different view of love/sex than women do. And yes I agree with everything QE said. It doesn't mean I approve of what Logan did and I think Rory will be better off without him. If it hurt her that he slept around while they were broken up then she shouldn't be with him.

I know QE had a lot of great responses, but my first reaction to your question is, Because he's a guy. Guys just have a different view of love/sex than women do. And yes I agree with everything QE said. It doesn't mean I approve of what Logan did and I think Rory will be better off without him. If it hurt her that he slept around while they were broken up then she shouldn't be with him.

It's not the playboy thing about Logan's character that makes him a rotten match for Rory. It's his condescending attitude towards people who are poor, particularly how he puts down guys who he sees as competition for Rory. He makes a big point of bringing up people's financial problems so he can look good. Tacky. He lets his father and rest of his family give nasty remarks to Rory right in front of her face and he just shrugs it off. So unless he walks away from the family fortune to be with Rory he is a scumbag. The writers are just being jerks at this point.

Yeah, he does have that poor little rich boy thing going on that is so annoying. Boo Hoo, my father is running my life. Oh please. I have no sympathy for him. As a character I love him though, he adds some spice to the show. But yeah, bad match for Rory all around.

I think that Logan is just not a respectful person in general. He has little respect for those around him which is evidenced in all the things mentioned above. Maybe that stems from his father's lack or respect for him. Maybe the person that Logan doesn't approve of, is really himself. But then again maybe not. It is just a tv show.

It is just a tv show.

Well aware of that. Not pulling a Hurley and confusing fantasy and reality. The point is tptb at Gilmore-land have decided to take independent & intelligent female characters (who get into Yale and run their own businesses) and turned them into dithering bimbos.

I could just hear Lorelai if she was a part of that conversation with Rory and Logan in front of Paris's apartment "We were on a break?! you can't be serious, god, Logan, try watching Friends sometime:rolleyes: "


I also love the intro of the April and Anna.


I also Love the way that they are sort of paralleling everything, in a way what is happening to Rory must in some way compare to Lorelai and Christopher, and what happened to Christopher compares to Luke, and April to Rory, and Anna to Lorelai.

I think it is clear that Luke in some way is attracted to Lorelai because she reminds him of Anna, whether he is conscious of that or not, who knows, but they are definetly similar, and their lives even parallel. April is the perfect combination of her parents, IMO, she is smart, outgoing, and independent like her mom, but sort of emotionally cut of and ruff around the edges like her dad.

This will be the differences between Rory and April. On the surface they seem like carbon copies, but I have a feeling that certain things about April are nothing like Rory. and vice versa. I can't wait til they meet each other officially, I wonder if they will click right away like long lost sisters, or if they will be so alike they clash. I wonder the same thing about Lorelai and Anna, although, they have the added factor of Luke and the fact that his feelings for Anna may return (:eek2: I hope not! He belongs with Lorelai!) They also seem to be testing Lorelai to see if the new Christopher will win her over.:rolleyes:

Rory seems to be in the same situation with Logan and Jess, although I think the perfect guy for Rory should be a combo of Dean, Jess,& Logan.

I have a feeling Lorelai was so quick to step back is because she can see where all the parties invovled are coming from and know they have some major choices ahead. As for Luke, the man is uncomfortable enough around Rory, and with April, it's the same and then some. Being his kid, the fact that she sought him out was her way of saying she wants a dad, now he has to figure out what that means to April, and then he has to see if he can live up to it (if he wants to, IMO,it's clear he's not trying to go the dead beat dad route)

I also wonder what April's grandparents are like, I bet Lorelai meets them and they click immediatley. ;)

I also wonder what April's grandparents are like, I bet Lorelai meets them and they click immediatley. ;)

You are so right about that. I'll bet they do click right away. I've been wondering what they are like too.

As a general comment, I just found Gilmore Girls last year and I absolutely love the show. I'm going to have to get the DVDs to see everything I missed, though.

You are so right about that. I'll bet they do click right away. I've been wondering what they are like too.

As a general comment, I just found Gilmore Girls last year and I absolutely love the show. I'm going to have to get the DVDs to see everything I missed, though.

You definetly should! And as fast as they talk, theres a lot to catch up on.

I Loved Gilmore Girls from the begginning, our situations are a little different, but I had a kid young and I like to think that she and I will be able to share stuff like Loreli and Rory.

She's almost 12 now and growing like a weed! I'm fairly petite and am already getting hand-me downs from her:redface: :rolleyes:
In a way it saves on money, we have similar tasted in clothes and so at least right now I am saving a little money on clothes and shoes, but soon she will be bigger and I be back were I started:ohwell:

I had to take her to the doctors the other day and there was a lady we never met before and when we came in she looked sooooo confused, my daughter's name is Mari Jane and I think the woman was wondering if we were trying to get a "two-for" and one of us was Mari and the other Jane. Her doctor and I have a running joke that she is my clone.

I just hope that the true vision of Gilmore Girls can be maintained into the next season. Without the creators, can this mother/daugher dynamic continue in a sensitive manner?

I just hope that the true vision of Gilmore Girls can be maintained into the next season. Without the creators, can this mother/daugher dynamic continue in a sensitive manner?

Are the creators going somewhere?

Are the creators going somewhere?
the originals (Palladino's) will not be back for the last season ..
hope the new writers don't ruin the end of our show!!!

I hate It when the creators bail. When Tommy Schlamme left, it killed the West Wing!

I'm not really liking the current dirrection Gilmore Girls is taking. Lorelei is acting so insecure, and I've never thought of her as an insecure person. I don't like it. :(

Philly - I know what you mean, Lorelai went from strong,straight forward , independant woman to walking on eggshells so she doesn't upset Luke. ..I love Luke and Lorelai together but it's not looking to good for them ATM.

I hate It when the creators bail. When Tommy Schlamme left, it killed the West Wing!

I hate that TPTB at GG left the viewers hanging. They couldn't come to an agreement about a 2-season deal. In a nutshell: The actors were signed for a 7th season, so the network (which is now "the CW") didn't want to give the show a 2 year deal for actors that are only secured for one season. The producers felt this was a bad deal because the actors would be more likely to bolt the show is the 8th season was still uncertain once the 7th started...holy moly that was a pretty big nutshell.

Anyhoo, the infamous last line of the series that Amy Sherman-Pallodino has been promising will never happen. She's supposedly been holding onto this finale scene since the beginning of the show. I read alot of interviews about all of this and what I gleaned from it is basically AS-P is acting like a diva. She didn't get exactly what she wanted from the deal so she's gonna throw a hissy fit. She also states that the fallout had nothing to do with money, they have paid her very very well and the new deal was even better money-wise.

So, a new guy is taking over the show for next season--presumably the last. Unless they want to do the show entirely around Paul Anka...I might watch that.:)

I don't like her changes either. Maybe they are trying to show how much a relationship can change and effect someone. It seems like ever since she and Luke got togther it has weakened her, in a way. I'm hoping that eventually it will balance out.

I just wanted to say that I love Gilmore Girls!
I am new to the show- I just netflicked Season 1 and I can't wait to see the rest!
Lorelai is so witty- I love her hilarious one liners!
Rory is adorable!- I wish I could have been her in high school- what a great kid- so smart and so funny!
This show is Great!! I wish I would have started watching it a long time ago! But now I get to watch without commercials and stuff!!

Season finale! Watching it right now! It's making me mad though because the sound seems to be off from what is actually happening! It is delayed and it's annoying the crap out of me... throws the whole mood off! Hope it fixes itself soon! Anyway... still super excited about it! I love this show!


Edit: Noise issue has been solved and the show is great:) woot:)

well, season finale is over. . . i've even lost the will to punctuate . . . so depressed . . .

if you didn't get to watch this yet.. don't read ahead!! It will ruin the surprises!


Last nights epi was sooooo sad!!!! This CAN NOT be the end for Luke and Lorelai! I would be uspet with Luke if I were here, but going to him and telling him to get eloped was not the right thing to do! I know she knew he would never go for that! She could have stood up and told Luke what she wanted without making him feel backed into a corner! Poor Luke, you could tell that he was stunned, and wondering what the heck Lorelai was doing! About Logan and Rory, you can tell that they love each other! It's sooo cute:) I just wish he didn't have to go away for soooo long! This might be the end of their relationship, just because long distance rarely works! Last nights epi ended so horribly! What was Lorelai t hinking when she went to Christian.. that was NOT the answer! I think she realized that she did something wrong when GG walked in on her and asked who the heck was in her daddys bed! Lorelai ( I think i am totally spelling this wrong!) did something majorly wrong.. and needs to go back to Luke and say .."hey buddy.. I want to get married, let's set a date and stick to it!" Thats all she needed to do! Not ask Luke something that she knew would end badly! Oh... I am soo ticked! Ok.. enough of this.. I am getting sad!

stef

^ exactly

:mad: :mad: :mad: Lorelei (yeah, I don't know the spelling really either)

Poor Luke - sure he's a guy and not handling the Lorelei/April thing correctly, but, Lorelei doesn't say anything for weeks on end and then

:boom: he would not have know what hit him.

Does not mean she should run to Christopher, even to chat, stay away girl, uh oh, too late.............
100%
btw - Chloe from 24 was one of the troubadours and when Taylor told her to hit the road, she said something like
can anyone say BTK ?
does anyone know what that means??
I am so outta the loop and not even embarrassed by it anymore, just need answers.
thanks!!

BTK is a serial killer from many many years ago, not sure exactly how many, but he actually JUST got caught! BTK stands for Bind,Torture,Kill :( Yikes... right... I guess she was compairing them???

thanks am - I would not have guessed that in a million years

It's been so hard for me to watch this show lately...because I just hate what they're doing to Luke and Lorelei.

I don't believe that this will be the end for their relationship. I think they've come too far and the audience has been rooting for them for so long that in the end they'll still end up together. But what bothers me is that I'm worried that the writers have ruined the beautiful dynamic they set up...with the plotlines this year :frown: . The wonderful thing about Luke and Lorelei was that they were always perfect for eachother, but they didn't know it...or something got in the way of their happiness time and time again. But it was about their chemistry or the way they treated eachother. It was always something seperate from that that kept them apart...or broke them up. Whether it was Emily's meddling or their own fear of commitment or whatever...they were always just one step away from realizing what they really had in eachother. They had this effortless connection and they always made eachother so happy. But now...Luke is treating Lorelei like crap. HE is making her miserable...and that's hard to come back from. I know that it was never his intention, but it's ruined what was the perfect dynamic. He shut her out...and made her wait. He was supposed to be her Prince Charming...the one man in her life who was ALWAYS there. The man who built her an ice-rink when she was fighting with snow. Who made her a Santa burger when she was down. Who let her borrow 30,000 without hestitation when she was desperate. But now he's the man who put her feelings before a daughter who barely knew...who refused her pleas to become a part of his life...who didn't even REALIZE what all of the waiting and the postponing of their plans was doing to her.

Whatever happens with the two of them...I'm afraid it will never be what it was before...:(

BTK is a serial killer from many many years ago, not sure exactly how many, but he actually JUST got caught! BTK stands for Bind,Torture,Kill :( Yikes... right... I guess she was compairing them???

Its apropos. The BTK Killer was a code enforcement officer, a very strict one. He actually took a ruler out an measured people's grass---I'm not kidding.

So Christopher and Lorelei...zoinks! btw...not that it matters but the daughter's name is Gigi not GG.

Lorelei definitely could have toned it down. Who wants to marry a spaz?

I'm not sad to see Logan go, but he is signed one for next season so he'll be back. Gag.

I was glad to see them make Logan's father seem human for once, instead of a raging Gorgon.

This was the most depressing season finale I've ever seen. :cry: What is going on? Why is Lorelie acting so insecure? I'm going to have to disagree with everyone and say that Luke is not being a jerk, Lorelie is. Luke finds out that he has a daughter that he never knew about and wants to become a part of her life. He's trying to develop a relationship with her and Lorelie is being a brat! My God, the woman is supposed to be how old, 36, 38? and she's acting like a teenager (no offense to any teenagers). She is so self centered and is making the whole situation about her. If Luke really is her soulmate (which I think he is), then she should be able to support his decision, support him, let him develop his relationship with his daughter. Is she afraid that she's loosing him to April? Sure April put a snag in their relationship, but if the way Lorelie is acting because of it is any indication of how things would be when they are married, then Luke is better off without her. I'm sorry, but Lorelie is being selfish, and I don't like it. :mad:

This was the most depressing season finale I've ever seen. :cry: What is going on? Why is Lorelie acting so insecure? I'm going to have to disagree with everyone and say that Luke is not being a jerk, Lorelie is. Luke finds out that he has a daughter that he never knew about and wants to become a part of her life. He's trying to develop a relationship with her and Lorelie is being a brat! My God, the woman is supposed to be how old, 36, 38? and she's acting like a teenager (no offense to any teenagers). She is so self centered and is making the whole situation about her. If Luke really is her soulmate (which I think he is), then she should be able to support his decision, support him, let him develop his relationship with his daughter. Is she afraid that she's loosing him to April? Sure April put a snag in their relationship, but if the way Lorelie is acting because of it is any indication of how things would be when they are married, then Luke is better off without her. I'm sorry, but Lorelei is being selfish, and I don't like it. :mad:

I'd have to respectfully disagree. Because Lorelei has never been unsupportive about April. From the beginning she was there for Luke (even though understandably it shook her up) and all she asked was that he include her. She's his fiance and that makes her a big part of his life. If he has a daughter that's great...but that doesn't mean that suddently he should be able to shut her out of parts of his life. He should have made her a part of everything right from the start. It's Anna who should be bound and gagged for being a ridiculous be-yotch about the whole thing. She doesn't introduce a guy to her kid until she's dated him for years???? What kind of FREAK is she??? I mean I'm sorry...but can you spell WAY WAY WAY over-reacting. And talking to Lorelei like she did. Kids are not DUMB. People come and go in their lives. And Luke should have enough respect for the women he wants to spend the rest of his life with to say to Anna that Lorelei is to be included...like it or not. They should be a TEAM...'till death do them part. It's not fair to shut someone out like that. I think if Luke stood firm, Anna would back down. If Anna could see that Lorelei and Luke come as a pair...she would adjust her thinking. But Luke is being a wimp. I know he loves his daughter that he's he'd never even met before...but we're talking about the women who he wants to spend the rest of his life with. April, sweet kid that she is, cannot be more important than that. She can be AS important, but Luke can't prioritize her above Lorelei. If he does that...than he doesn't really love her as much as he seemed to in the past.


In my humble opinion...Lorelei has it right when she said "we have to see how April fits into our lives...not the other way around". EXACTLY! They already have lives...and plans...and dreams...and they shouldn't throw all that to the side for April. They should figure out where her place is in everything they'd already planned for their lives.

Yes, I see your point of view, but in my experience children always come first. I've dated guys that have kids and never met their kids before (a little different situation, I know, since they already knew they had the kids, etc.). And yes I believe that Anna is a freak. I don't think Luke is keeping Lorelei away because of Anna, I think he's doing it for the reason he told Lorelei, to establish a relationship with her first. If you look at it from Luke's perspective, he was cheated out of 13 years (I think 13, forget how old April is) of his daughters life because Anna never told him about her. (Considering the fact that she didn't know who the real father was out of a possibility of 3 guys knocks Anna down a few more pegs in my opinion). Maybe I'm just overly sensitive to Luke's situation, but to me it seems like he had a great realationship with Lorelei, found out he had a kid, and then Lorelei went crazy on him. Granted, I do think it was wrong of him to not tell Lorelei about April when he first found out. Well, that's the way I see it anyway. But the whole thing is still depressing no matter what side you are on. I just don't like the way the show is going right now. Total downer. I hope things get better next year, because I love this show and I don't want to give it up.

I understand the importance of children...and maybe they do need to be put first. (Although putting a 13 year old girl you barely know before a woman you've loved for years - 'cause let's face it...Luke's been pining for Lorelei FOREVER...lol...is a little skeptical. Blood ties aren't everything you know. Do people automatically love their children and their parents more than their spouses?...who knows...). But Luke was acting like ONLY April mattered...and I guess that's what bothered me. It would have been one thing if had kept talking to Lorelei throughout the whole thing...telling her everything...repeatedly saying to her "THIS is why we have to wait a little longer for you to be part of April's life" or "I love you...I love you...I love you...we just have to wait a little longer"...etc, etc. If he had gone out of his way to make her feel like even though they couldn't get married as soon as they planned...she was still VERY important to him, it would have been one thing. But he acted like nothing was wrong! It took Lorelei bringing up helping him with April's b-day present for him to even tell her why he didn't want her involved yet. He couldn't even SEE how much it bothered her that he had this whole other side of his life that she wasn't a part of. He postponed the wedding then barely brought it up again to check with her as to how she was feeling. It was obvious that she wasn't happy...and he couldn't see that. And even when they DID have time alone together (valentines day at Logan's place) he acted like a jerk...complaining all the time about everything. He was being obvlivious to Lorelei...and that's what bothered me the most I think.

I guess I see how they both made mistakes. I don't put all the blame on Luke. And honestly, I think Luke was acting copmpletly in character. I guess what bothers me most about the whole thing is that I don't think Lorelei was acting in character. I didn't like seeing her being insecure. :ohwell: I guess we all have our own interpretations of the situation. But, I think Lorelei should have talked to Luke and let him know how the situation was bothering her instead of waiting to explode and unloading it all on him. I'm not saying Luke was not to blame at all, but I really don't think he was being a jerk. I think it was both their faults.

I guess I see how they both made mistakes. I don't put all the blame on Luke. And honestly, I think Luke was acting copmpletly in character. I guess what bothers me most about the whole thing is that I don't think Lorelei was acting in character. I didn't like seeing her being insecure. :ohwell: I guess we all have our own interpretations of the situation. But, I think Lorelei should have talked to Luke and let him know how the situation was bothering her instead of waiting to explode and unloading it all on him. I'm not saying Luke was not to blame at all, but I really don't think he was being a jerk. I think it was both their faults.

I think they should have listened to Emily Gilmore and insisted on a 2nd impartial DNA test. Who the hell knows what that weird kid did with the 3 samples she gathered from three strange men, got the labels mixed up in her lunchbox---who knows? Keep in mind the show features a 12 year old child approaching strange men to gather DNA samples...how creepy is that? About a 9 on the creepy scale. But nice sweet Lorelei wants to entertain the girls with makeovers and free gifts and that's suddenly a problem??? Obviously Anna has some sort of vague plan to get Luke back after all these years of creeping out men in her neck of the woods she needs to branch out.

As for the "Who is being a bigger baby?" contest between L and L...I think it's a tie.

I still can't talk about it. I'm too sad.

So did anyone else read about Milo and Alexis breaking up? :(. I thought they were such a cute couple...it's a shame they're not together anymore.

And Milo was talking about how now that the Palladino's are gone from the show (which by the way is a complete travesty) he'll never make another Jess appearance. He thinks Jess' story has come to a close and there's nothing else to say. SIGH. I knew that one was coming...but I'm just bitter. I wonder if Amy had never tried to create a spin off show involving Jess...if he'd still be on the show full time. He was only written off because of his own show...and when that never panned off he declined to come back. I think when you close something in your mind, you're sometimes reluctant to open it again. But I wonder if he hadn't prepared himself to leave...hmmm...

Well a girl can dream...can't she? ;)

I didn't like Jess at first because I was loyal to Dean, but he kind of grew on me. And Dean was too perfect.

The sixth season premiered here last week and as much as I love Luke and Lorelai together now, I know its not going to last, yup I'm spoiled again. :down: Damn I just hope whoever the new people in charge replacing Amy&co will have more sense next season and get those two together already.:wallbash:

The sixth season premiered here last week and as much as I love Luke and Lorelai together now, I know its not going to last, yup I'm spoiled again. :down: Damn I just hope whoever the new people in charge replacing Amy&co will have more sense next season and get those two together already.:wallbash:

Well the show will be run by a guy who's currently one of the producers...so it's not like they're bringing in some guy from out of nowhere...who would likely mess up the dynamic of the show. This is just a guy who's been working for the show for at least a year...and now he's being given the reins :)

All I can say is that's what the said about the West Wing and it TOTALLY got ruined when the creator left the show!

I can't believe that after we've waited patiently for Luke and Lorlei to get together, they rip them apart. I can't take it! They've been a family all along -- they just didn't recognize it and they'd better get it together!!

I guess I see how they both made mistakes. I don't put all the blame on Luke. And honestly, I think Luke was acting copmpletly in character. I guess what bothers me most about the whole thing is that I don't think Lorelei was acting in character. I didn't like seeing her being insecure. :ohwell: I guess we all have our own interpretations of the situation. But, I think Lorelei should have talked to Luke and let him know how the situation was bothering her instead of waiting to explode and unloading it all on him. I'm not saying Luke was not to blame at all, but I really don't think he was being a jerk. I think it was both their faults.

ITA!

And I'm actually lumping Chris with some of the blame, for what the fallout is going to be. I know he didn't have anything to do with the Luke/Lorelei/April situation, but could the guy not see how fragile Lorelei was when she came to the door? And how devestated and hurt she was with Luke? Is the guy that insensitive or have was it that we didn't see any conversation between the two, before they jumped in the sack?

Arggghhh! Christopher . . . he drives me nuts!

The West Wing had a bad year after Aaron Sorkin left...but then it started to improve immensely. Of course it's not exactly the same show...but that doesn't mean it still wasn't good...just in a different way. Over the years it dropped in popularity but the critics have had really great things to say about their last two seasons.

Gilmore is going to change...I have no doubt about that...but I'm interested to see where it goes. And after reading Dave Rosenthal's (new show runner) comments this week (from the TCA press conference), I'm feeling good about it. He seems to completely understand how people feel about Luke and Lorelei...and every comment he made alluded more to people having to be apart on a show if they're meant to be together in the end. And as long as Luke and Lorelei are destined to connect in the end...then I can wait ;). Plus it sounds like Amy hired him and let him know that if she was leaving, he'd be her successor. If she has faith in him...then I'll give him a shot :biggrin:

The West Wing had a bad year after Aaron Sorkin left...but then it started to improve immensely. Of course it's not exactly the same show...but that doesn't mean it still wasn't good...just in a different way. Over the years it dropped in popularity but the critics have had really great things to say about their last two seasons.

Gilmore is going to change...I have no doubt about that...but I'm interested to see where it goes. And after reading Dave Rosenthal's (new show runner) comments this week (from the TCA press conference), I'm feeling good about it. He seems to completely understand how people feel about Luke and Lorelei...and every comment he made alluded more to people having to be apart on a show if they're meant to be together in the end. And as long as Luke and Lorelei are destined to connect in the end...then I can wait ;). Plus it sounds like Amy hired him and let him know that if she was leaving, he'd be her successor. If she has faith in him...then I'll give him a shot :biggrin:

She never said anything bad about Dave Rosenthal, which was the one classy thing she did in the whole messy exit. I think people are more worried about the show losing its unique dialogue, which is really the only reason to watch the show (even Lauren Graham said she HATED the plot over the last few seasons but the dialogue kept her happy) Hopefully they can get enough good writers to make it work for at least one more season.

Nightmare scenarios Season 7: Christopher and April's mom hook up? Logan and Rory elope? Paul Anka gets run over by the garbage truck? The Palladinos jump ship...wait tht last one really happened! :eek2:

I'm a little worried about the dialogue...I'll admit it...but that's hardly the ONLY reason to watch the show. Without good characters and great performances...it would just be an overwritten show ;). I think that Amy has left her mark...and I doubt Dave intends to change the style of the show. Even in episodes that Amy or Dan didn't write...the same quality of dialogue was evident. As long as the writers are trying to keep the show on track...and write in the same style...it could work

The news seems good so far!

TV guide's Michael Ausilleo had read the first post-palladino Gilmore script...and he thinks it's great! If you want to read some more specifics...click on the link below. It's not TERRIBLY spoilery...but it hints at certain things

http://community.tvguide.com/thread.jspa?threadID=700004169

As long as the new PTB just get Lorelai and Luke together and married already:rolleyes: sheesh cause if Lorelai and Christopher end up in bed together one more time I'm not watching this show again:frown:

My tivo spoiled me. I was resetting my season passes for the new network and I read the little blurb to make sure the season premiers were coming up on my to do list and in the description was a spioler. :( But I am looking forward to the new season.