discuss tonight's show at will!!

Okay, I now really want Micah's power.

i wonder how DL takes this news... does he make Micah give the money back? not exactly on the up and up and i know they're trying to live a cleaner life now...

fantastic episode with yet another jaw-dropper at the end... i really like the Invisible Man (Eccleston)... how many great characters can a show have?!

so Hiro's daddy is the big boss... knows what Hiro's up to and doesn't like it... interesting...

Yeah, but there's gotta be a camera on that machine. I'm hoping Mr. Bennet doesn't know about the windchime thing. He was eyeing it kinda funny. But I don't think the Haitian would have Claire do that if his boss knew about it. Unless he doesn't know he knows...

Mr. Bennet clearly doesn't tell MBG everything so i wouldn't put it past HRG to know about the chimes... i mean, he did tell MBG that Claire's mommy died... so either he is unaware of her living as well, or it's a lie

bennet thinks he thinks he knows but would he really allow a firestarting woman to wander around willy nilly.

ecclestons great ...does his character have a name yet? the bird man, maybe

george takei everybody!

Okay, I now really want Micah's power.

Lol, it's pretty handy.

i wonder how DL takes this news... does he make Micah give the money back? not exactly on the up and up and i know they're trying to live a cleaner life now...

fantastic episode with yet another jaw-dropper at the end... i really like the Invisible Man (Eccleston)... how many great characters can a show have?!

so Hiro's daddy is the big boss... knows what Hiro's up to and doesn't like it... interesting...

I think DL will make Micah return the money, DL could easily walk trough walls into a bank and get cash if he wanted to as well.

About Hiro's dad, what is this about? Is he linderman or just a new character :confused:

bennet thinks he thinks he knows but would he really allow a firestarting woman to wander around willy nilly.

ecclestons great ...does his character have a name yet? the bird man, maybe

george takei everybody!


So did the firestarting woman, start a fire to fake her own death?

Okay, I now really want Micah's power.

I was thinking the same thing! :biggrin:

Yeah, but there's gotta be a camera on that machine. I'm hoping Mr. Bennet doesn't know about the windchime thing. He was eyeing it kinda funny. But I don't think the Haitian would have Claire do that if his boss knew about it. Unless he doesn't know he knows...

I thought about the camera too. The windchime thing was wierd...

Lol, it's pretty handy.
I think DL will make Micah return the money, DL could easily walk trough walls into a bank and get cash if he wanted to as well.
About Hiro's dad, what is this about? Is he linderman or just a new character :confused:
So did the firestarting woman, start a fire to fake her own death?

Yeah, he will go reurn the money, and they will be so impressed with his honesty at the bank, they will offer him a job. You watch. LOL :biggrin:

Hiro's dad is just Hiro's dad... he isn't Linderman.

Is Linderman Claire's daddy?

I always thought there was cameras in those atm machines. If thats the case then Micah's cute little face is going to show up on it and then what? Doesn't matter if DL takes the money back or not. And I don't think Claires dad knows about the wind chimes it just doesn't make sense that MBG would do something that could get him into pretty deep do do. Then he'd have to wipe daddy's mind. I thought he acted kinda surprised when his wife mentioned that the son was so absent-minded. Was that part of the plan to take Claires brothers memories? I can't remember did daddy know that the son knew. Also I don't think Hiro's father is "The Boss" as in Linderman. But makes you wonder if he knows Linderman and/or does he have any special powers. And finally how cool was that Claires mom being a pyro. "flame on" I would think that she probably did cause the fire and covered her tracks.

I always thought there was cameras in those atm machines. If thats the case then Micah's cute little face is going to show up on it and then what? Doesn't matter if DL takes the money back or not.

the ones owned by banks definitely have cameras, but Micah went up to one of those third party machines, I'm not sure if they have cameras or not.

And I don't think Claires dad knows about the wind chimes it just doesn't make sense that MBG would do something that could get him into pretty deep do do. Then he'd have to wipe daddy's mind. I thought he acted kinda surprised when his wife mentioned that the son was so absent-minded. Was that part of the plan to take Claires brothers memories? I can't remember did daddy know that the son knew.

Claire did tell HRG about her brother knowing, but yeah it was a bit weird that HRG seemed surprised. t could be that he's surprised his wife was that observant. He could also be wondering if MBG's powers are weakening and not erasing the memories properly.

Also I don't think Hiro's father is "The Boss" as in Linderman. But makes you wonder if he knows Linderman and/or does he have any special powers. And finally how cool was that Claires mom being a pyro. "flame on" I would think that she probably did cause the fire and covered her tracks.


The weird thing about Hiro's dad appearing, is if he's a powerful guy who can hire a bunch of japanese speaking thugs and track down his son, why is Hiro workign some menial cubicle job?

Claire did tell HRG about her brother knowing, but yeah it was a bit weird that HRG seemed surprised. t could be that he's surprised his wife was that observant. He could also be wondering if MBG's powers are weakening and not erasing the memories properly.

The weird thing about Hiro's dad appearing, is if he's a powerful guy who can hire a bunch of japanese speaking thugs and track down his son, why is Hiro workign some menial cubicle job?

The whole thing with Mrs. Bennett seems off to me. Her mind has been wiped so many times, doesn't she find it strange that she has all these holes in her memory? She probably wouldn't suspect her husband but the poor lady probably thinks she's getting senile or something.

Hiro's dad apparently is some big important guy. It reminds me of Paik. I wonder if he has any part in the mythology of the show. Hiro seems like the kind of guy who wouldn't want some cushy job just because his father is powerful. He seems like the type of person who will go out and earn his living on his own.
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Oh and I don't fully understand what happened with Sylar. The doctor must have checked his vitals and everything, so how did he just "come back to life"? Do cockroaches have that ability? Also, it looked like there was something on the back of his head when he surprised Mr. Bennett. I didn't get a good look at it, anyone know what it was?

Ladybug - I know what you mean... I paused and watched and paused and watchd and paused and could not figure out what that was on the back of Sylar's head. If anyone else knows, I want to know as well! :)

Maybe screencaps here would be helpful....

I'll do a brief discussion starter ... then later do my usual half a page goings on about last night's episode....

I have a question....we know that Hiro's father is NOT Linderman....but does he work for Linderman? I mean how does he KNOW what Hiro is up to. That wasn't fully described at all last night and it is leaving a very big question here .... Where the hell is Linderman and just how involoved is he in our stories ???? And what exactly does Hiro's dad know about Hiro????

Grrr...... Need answers....

Maybe screencaps here would be helpful....

Yes, we sorely need a Heroes-Media.com.

My thoughts exactly Finnster. Sylar has the same abilities as Claire. He can regenerate. So he probably was dead and then played dead waiting for the opportune moment.

if he can control his brain activity in order to get the powers of other heroes, then wouldn't he also be able to control his brain in order to stop his heart and other bodily functions? maybe he slowed them down to the point that medical instruments showed that he was dead? entered a trance-like or coma like state e.g. James Bond in Die Another Day

I got the answer to the head thing!!! LOL It was in Joe and Aron's interview with CBR, so I will spoiler font it.

It is a shunt.
I am embarrased to say that I had to look up "shunt" on wikipedia to get clarification as to what it was. here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunt_%28medical%29 And another link to cerebral shunt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_shunt

Yeah, but there's gotta be a camera on that machine. I'm hoping Mr. Bennet doesn't know about the windchime thing. He was eyeing it kinda funny. But I don't think the Haitian would have Claire do that if his boss knew about it. Unless he doesn't know he knows...
Yeah, I hope he doesn't! I have a feeling he thinks something is up with it.

The whole thing with Mrs. Bennett seems off to me. Her mind has been wiped so many times, doesn't she find it strange that she has all these holes in her memory? She probably wouldn't suspect her husband but the poor lady probably thinks she's getting senile or something.

Hiro's dad apparently is some big important guy. It reminds me of Paik. I wonder if he has any part in the mythology of the show. Hiro seems like the kind of guy who wouldn't want some cushy job just because his father is powerful. He seems like the type of person who will go out and earn his living on his own.
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I'll do a brief discussion starter ... then later do my usual half a page goings on about last night's episode....

I have a question....we know that Hiro's father is NOT Linderman....but does he work for Linderman? I mean how does he KNOW what Hiro is up to. That wasn't fully described at all last night and it is leaving a very big question here .... Where the hell is Linderman and just how involoved is he in our stories ???? And what exactly does Hiro's dad know about Hiro????

Grrr...... Need answers....

I think it's safe to guess that Hiro's dad has a power as well.

My thoughts exactly Finnster. Sylar has the same abilities as Claire. He can regenerate. So he probably was dead and then played dead waiting for the opportune moment.

Hmm, but if Sylar already has the regeneration ability why does he need to cut open Claire's brain. If he wanted to be the only superpowered human around he would just have to kill Claire and not go through the trouble and getting her brain.

if he can control his brain activity in order to get the powers of other heroes, then wouldn't he also be able to control his brain in order to stop his heart and other bodily functions? maybe he slowed them down to the point that medical instruments showed that he was dead? entered a trance-like or coma like state e.g. James Bond in Die Another Day

hmmm, it's possible, I still have to read the comic to see why sylar is still in that room in the first place, but when they said he was dead I kept thinking they needed to chop him up, or destroy his body or something to ensure he's really dead. He was so definitely going to rise from the dead in that scene.

Also, if Sylar was faking it and could wake up at any moment, why go through all that rouble, when he could have just got up and killed that doctor at any moment.

lol I thought this was a slower epi, but I feel like I'm asking more questions than usual :D

Also, if Sylar was faking it and could wake up at any moment, why go through all that rouble, when he could have just got up and killed that doctor at any moment.

lol I thought this was a slower epi, but I feel like I'm asking more questions than usual :D

yeah it was one of the slower eps, but i still liked it... and the ending scenes definitely took it up a notch...

my guess is that Sylar picked that moment because he wanted the doc to make the call to HRG to say he was dead... that way, whenever he came back, he would catch them by surprise... if HRG hadn't heard from the doc, he would've been alerted and he would've taken the necessary steps in order to secure Sylar (by sending MGB or whatever task force necessary)

Does anyone else notice that HRG seems to work for someone else, investigating all the Heroes? While talking to Hank, he says, "Unfortunately they haven't authorized that."

Who are they? The CIA? Another group maybe?

Im interested in seeing what Primatech and HRG are really about! I'm thinking a CIA front to help track down the people with these powers to understand and destroy them before the attempt to take over the world. It would make HRG's actions somewhat explainable. Why he captures these certain people to study their powers.

Or maybe the CIA is GIVING people these powers in order to train them for war. Think about it, both Matt and Ted didn't notice their powers until after they were taken. Capture them, give them powers, implant them with a chip to track them, and let them out on the world to figure out the powers on their own, then bring them back in to have them battle in war? Think of the powers that Heroes have that are related to this HRG story. Hana and Matt would be perfect for recon. Ted is obviously a juggernaut.

Very interesting.

I got the answer to the head thing!!! LOL It was in Joe and Aron's interview with CBR, so I will spoiler font it.

It is a shunt.
I am embarrased to say that I had to look up "shunt" on wikipedia to get clarification as to what it was. here is the link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shunt_%28medical%29 And another link to cerebral shunt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebral_shunt

Oh. Hmm. Don't be embarrased, I had no clue what that word means. I'm still not 100% sure. Is it something inside his brain that is now exposed for some reason? Gross.

Or maybe the CIA is GIVING people these powers in order to train them for war. Think about it, both Matt and Ted didn't notice their powers until after they were taken. Capture them, give them powers, implant them with a chip to track them, and let them out on the world to figure out the powers on their own, then bring them back in to have them battle in war? Think of the powers that Heroes have that are related to this HRG story. Hana and Matt would be perfect for recon. Ted is obviously a juggernaut.

Very interesting.

But Matt had been noticing his power before he was nabbed. He was even trying to read The Haitian's mind before he was taken remember.

And some powers have manifested without Mr. Bennett's intervention..

Also, it is theorized that this type of thing has been going on for YEARS!!!!! a'la Hiro's sword. Who knows....

my guess is that Sylar picked that moment because he wanted the doc to make the call to HRG to say he was dead... that way, whenever he came back, he would catch them by surprise... if HRG hadn't heard from the doc, he would've been alerted and he would've taken the necessary steps in order to secure Sylar (by sending MGB or whatever task force necessary)

Oh yes this does make strategic sense!

About Matt, he does seem a bt misguided in thinking that HRG gave him the powers, maybe it's because he needs to find a reason to explain his powers and the abduction occurred around the time he started hearing thoughts. Now that he has 6 free months, i wonder how specifically he will spend his time.

shaz If I remember correctly HRG doesn't work for any organization with letters. I'm not sure if was mentioned on an episode or someone said something here. It will be very interesting to find out who or what organization he works for tho. How big is this? How far back does it go? Like penyours said questions,questions and more questions.

Yeah HRG definitely said he doesn't work for an org with initials, can't remember if it was when Matt was abducted or when he was talking to Isaac.

This whole thing seems like it been going on for a very long time, at the very least the 14-16 years that HRG has had Claire, but probably atleast all of HRG's working life.

I started this thought in the invisible man thread, but it's possible he is very old, say in the hundreds of years, if he's invisible to our eyes, he could also be invisible to father time. I think we should pay attention to invisible man's slang and diction, he could potentially be very old and his speech pattern may give away hints to how far back he has lived. It's interesting that they decided his character would have a working class english accent, what were their intentions if any.

Lol I just added more questions to the pile :D

Oh. Hmm. Don't be embarrased, I had no clue what that word means. I'm still not 100% sure. Is it something inside his brain that is now exposed for some reason? Gross.

i just read something interesting off of wikipedia about cockroaches... i figured there had to be some meaning behind why they kept showing shots of the cockroach with Sylar... well here are some interesting facts about cockroaches:

Cockroaches are notoriously hardy animals. Radiologists have found that the lethal radiation dose for a human is approximately 800 rems (where the typical lifetime exposure is about 16 rems). However, the lethal dose for an American cockroach is 67,500 rems and for the German cockroach it is between 90,000 and 105,000 rems.[5] For this reason, and their ability to bury themselves underground, cockroaches could be one of the few species to survive a nuclear blast. However, they would not necessarily inherit the blasted remains of cities: cockroaches need more heat than is naturally available in the wintertime of temperate areas.

Cockroaches can survive on very little food; it has been discovered that cockroaches will eat the glue from the back of stamps.

It has also been attested that cockroaches can survive for at least seven days, sometimes a month without a head. This is due to four reasons; one being that a cockroach breaths through spiracles instead of an airway in its head like every insect, two that cockroaches do not control breathing with their brain, three that a cockroach does not need food often, and four a cockroach does not need blood in the same way humans do. What is more, experiments have shown that headless cockroaches can be conditioned to avoid electric shocks more quickly than cockroaches that have their heads

interesting notion about being able to survive a nuclear blast, especially with Ted or Peter... and perhaps he examined how the cockroach survives, and was able to make it so that the machines showed that he was brain-dead, but that he was still alive... hence the reason for a shunt? perhaps i'm thinking too much on this, but it's a thought, you know? :)

how interesting almost seems like that was there for our benefit.

Liked this episode. Can't wait till Jessica comes to life again.