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Man of Science, Man of Faith Air Date: 09/21/2005 60 minutes EP: 201
Written by Damon Lindelof
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Old 02-23-2009, 01:17 AM   #51
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Re: LOST Rewind: "Man of Science, Man of Faith"

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Now that we know about Des and his 'special'ness I think we are going to fnd out that the Des/Jack meeting was not a flashback for Des but a flashforward while still being possibly a flashback for Jack.

I wonder if Des's advice to Jack " Lift it/her? up" is going to be significant at some point this season or next ?
i also had that thoughtt...
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Re: LOST Rewind: "Man of Science, Man of Faith"

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I agree, always felt that Desmonds response to Jack about if she was fixed, was kinda out of place. he appeared to almost knowing ahead. so with all the bouncing that Desmond did, could he have taken one chance to either change the future.
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Re: LOST Rewind: "Man of Science, Man of Faith"

I just re-watched House of the Rising Sun and noticed how similar Locke's "Look Up Charlie" is to Desmond's "Lift It Up Brotha". Locke was telling Charlie he had to give something (drugs) to the Island to get what he desired most (guitar). What if Desmond is telling Jack the same sort of thing here?
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Old 06-21-2009, 10:35 AM   #54
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Re: LOST Rewind: "Man of Science, Man of Faith"

There is also Eko's "Lift up your eyes and look north John" (don't know if I got that quote exactly right) from S3 Cost of Living.
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Re: LOST Rewind: "Man of Science, Man of Faith"

Here we are at MOS/MOF - boy, did waiting for what was in the hatch seem like forever.

Lots of red and green opposites. On my HDTV I can see the purple/ green rainbow that goes across the spinning record.

Woah, is Jack bossy. Jumping to to the conclusion they wouldn't be able to get 40 people down there. A little exploration is in order.

They also coded Adam Rutherford pretty quickly. No one else could do anything for him? Most nurses could have intubated him.

Hurley confronts Locke for not listening to him. (just too scary)

Shannon trips and hears the whispers. It certainly looks like she is being watched from overhead. See wet, backwards talking Walt. "Don't push the button. Button bad."

This is the first time we see Christian in a different light.

Kate always has to be on the scouting party and Locke was expecting her. Love the "stop" line when Locke is lowering her into the hatch.

We finally meet Desmond and hear "See ya in another life brother"

We enter the hatch for the first time with Jack and it's all rusty and dripping water - what happened to that mess?

There's the Mural. 108 in the center - We somehow have only made it to about day 102 - will it be day 108 when everything gets resolved?

Jack tripped in the stadium.

We have recycled names. Sarah's fiance is Kevin and Kate marries a Kevin.

We have a big Ah Ha moment at the end when Jack recognizes Des.





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Re: LOST Rewind: "Man of Science, Man of Faith"

This remains my all-time favorite episode, probably because of the totally unexpected oddities of the hatch, and the reveal that the mysterious hatch-dweller had met Jack 'in another life'. There's just something about Desmond's sudden shift from smoothies and Mamma Cass, to rifles and tricked-out telescopes. Gets me every time. And this whole shift in perspective began with the skipping of a record. Hmm.

Why did Kate feel compelled to go along with Locke rather than Jack regarding the hatch? At the beginning of the episode, after Jack told John to forget about going into the hatch that night, she looked at Jack and, with a sense of urgency, simply said, "Jack?"...

As Jack was walking away from the hatch, Locke asked him, "Why don't you want to go down there, Jack?". The answer, IMO, may lie in Jack's subsequent flashback to Sarah's miraculous healing. Just as his marriage to Sarah seemed to be destined from the moment she was wheeled into his E.R., I think Jack knew, at some level, that Locke was right about the hatch leading to his destiny on the island. Considering how his marriage to Sarah ended up, I can imagine that Jack was struggling with the fear that, once again, he wouldn't have 'what it takes'.

Why did Vincent lead Shannon into the Jungle to see WetWalt? I'm guessing that Vincent, like the lostaways, may have been used at various times by Jacob and by the MiB. Perhaps Shannon's visions of Walt were projected By the MiB to eventually put her in harm's way, with a little help from Ana Lucia. She was, after all, out to get Locke.

Locke's question to Kate about the smoke monster, "Wonder what Jack thinks he saw?". It seems to me that John should be asking himself the same question. The first time he encountered Smokey, what he saw was beautiful, but the second time around the fear was obvious in his eyes.

Is there a parallel between Christian telling Jack that false hope is better than no hope, and Locke telling Hurley that what he expected to find in the hatch was "hope"?

I like this line of Jack's...

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KATE: Kind of unlike you...the whole glass half-full thing.

JACK: There's a glass?
Maybe this was a foreshadowing that there was a whole lot more going on here than met the eye.

Even after re-watching the scene several times, I'm convinced that Desmond told Jack, "You have to lift her up". Only after his meaning went right over Jack's head did he backtrack and improvise with the bit about elevating his ankle. I wonder if we'll ever find out what he did mean?

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Re: LOST Rewind: "Man of Science, Man of Faith"

Watching the commentary. Talking about backwards talking Walt, they mentioned people were just finding out they they had been hiding EE since the pilot episode. They thought that maybe only 1000 people would notice these things in the beginning and then heard a radio station reversing Walt's voice on air.

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Re: LOST Rewind: "Man of Science, Man of Faith"

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Lots of red and green opposites. On my HDTV I can see the purple/ green rainbow that goes across the spinning record.

Ah So Make Your Own Kind of Music has a rainbow connection.
Seemed Rose and Bernard in the final were making their own kind of music
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