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I'm kinda torn by this epi. Loved the backstory but I don't like to see "name" actors in a series that is so popular everyone wants it on their resume. It somewhat ruins the continuity of the show. I loved AJ on the WestWing so it's not her, it just seems somewhat 'unreal' to see someone not already on the show or someone who is a 'name'.
I CAN RESIST JUST ABOUT ANYTHING ... EXCEPT TEMPTATION
Just wasn't sure where else to post this, I figured this seemed like a good thread to do it in (wouldn't want to start any arguments in the loved it or hated it threads)
A lot of the gripes I am hearing with this episode are a bit annoying, however. I feel like its a mixture of people wanting answers laid out and explained to them and people missing the point.
I see a lot of people saying that Jacob was built up to be this know-all island god yet knows absolutely nothing. For those people; maybe take into account that this episode seemed to happen at least 1500 years ago. I think 1500 years on an Island is enough time to figure things out.
While I didn't love this episode, there were some things I liked about it, and I refuse to post in the "Didn't love it" thread, which has become the "Hated it with a passion and have decided I really hate the whole series and wish the writers would crawl into a hole and die" thread.
First, the positive. I liked the back story behind Jacob and the MiB. As has been the case with several of the characters from earlier seasons, I've had to re-think my first impressions now that we've been shown 'the rest of the story'. Black and white aren't so black and white on this show. Although it was a tad hokey, I actually liked the idea of the island as the location of a goodness/power/light that has an influence beyond the island itself. It gives meaning to Desmond's/Ellie's comments which suggested that their actions may be needed to save the world. And I also liked the fact that Adam and Eve turned out to be a couple from out of left field.
What I didn't like is that the story has become so convoluted that, even as someone who lives and breathes LOST, I have no clue about what might be going on. By this point I would expect to be getting episodes which are narrowing the story to a simple enough arc that even casual LOST fans might be able to wrap their heads around a couple of endgame scenarios which would make some sense. Mrs. Bickle, for example, has been a good sport about watching every LOST episode with me, and, for the most part, has enjoyed the ride. After last night's episode, however, she turned to me and said "None of this makes any sense at all to me, are they just trying to confuse us? And the sad part was that I totally agreed with her.
What I didn't like is that the story has become so convoluted that, even as someone who lives and breathes LOST, I have no clue about what might be going on. By this point I would expect to be getting episodes which are narrowing the story to a simple enough arc that even casual LOST fans might be able to wrap their heads around a couple of endgame scenarios which would make some sense.
Edit: I've had the time to settle down, and digest the whole episode. What settled me down is the hope that what is emitting the light will be shown. Guess my Lost fix wasn't strong enough in Across the sea, but it reminded me of the days it was strong enough to let the story just be a story.
Why am I not enjoying this season as much then? Why can't I just let the story be what it is? It's pretty much the same core of brilliant writers from the first season, that wrote complex, intelligent storylines and characters.
Then it hit me, I wasn't getting complex or intelligent answers to the complex, intelligent story I was introduced to. That's it, that's all. The answers, if any, are too simplistic, not up to par with the brilliant set up of them we had over 5 years.
And that's hard to let go...Let it go Eric...just let it go.
Last edited by EricGunn; 05-13-2010 at 04:16 PM.
Reason: Cooler heads are less snappy, and to the point...
The episode seemed to be very, well, uneconomical. This could easily have been a series of flashbacks rather than an entire episode. I am not sure what we have really learned by it (other than fairly irrelevant things, like who "Adam and Eve" are, though since the MIB is still around, we didn't even necessarily learn that).
If anything, the episode raises more questions than it answers, and it is highly unlikely that any of them will be answered over the next couple of weeks.
I wonder what purpose the producers actually intended this episode to serve? As far as I am concerned, you have to have a huge reason to take an entire episode away from the core cast of LOST, and so far this has happened twice in the final and most important season, leaving less time for the regular cast (most of whom have been fairly sidelined the whole season). The Richard episode does not seem to have advanced the plot at all, and this one perhaps did so only marginally. Both were, in a sense, 42 minute long attempts to give 5 minutes of actual exposition.
I didn't love or hate the episode. It was a bit disappointing that the whole episode was about Jacob and MIB's life on the Island. Yes, it was important to the story line and provides some answers. It tells us how they came to the Island, that they were brothers, How MIB becomes Smokey, why MIB believes the way he does about people coming to the Island and that he has always wanted to leave the Island. Yet I believe all of it could have been accomplished in half the time and the other time could have been utilized on the core cast.
Over the past 2 seasons, I have changed the way I follow Lost. In the beginning, I spent all my time trying to figure out everything that was going on. Since then I have just taken the ride the writers provide. I have had an enjoyable experience in watching Lost. I may still end up being a bit disappointed when it's over but I will never feel cheated because I have been entertained and looked forward to each and every episode of the series.