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This Place is Death Air Date: 2/11/2009 60 minutes EP: 505
Written by Edward Kitsis, Adam Horowitz
Directed by Paul A. Edwards


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10 - Excellent Episode!!! 65 37.14%
9 49 28.00%
8 31 17.71%
7 14 8.00%
6 3 1.71%
5 7 4.00%
4 1 0.57%
3 1 0.57%
2 2 1.14%
1 - Very Bad Episode. 2 1.14%
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Old 02-12-2009, 02:18 AM   #21
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That is all we get of Danielles story! LAME. This is a really big let down. They might as well have never shown it.

And to try and tell me she wouldn't recognize Jin who she was face to face with for long extended periods of time is ridiculous.

I feel they are ruining this show.
I did enjoy this episode. But I have to agree with the statement above that Danielle should have recognized Jin later in time. I really hate the whole time travel issue, and wish the show had never gone there. I haven’t been much of a fan of the concept since MJ Fox and the 2nd installment of Back to the Future. It just gets ridiculous.

The series has been entertaining, and has enough cool mysteries going on to keep me watching. I just hope they wrap all the time travel soon, and it does not dominate the rest of the show.
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:35 AM   #22
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7/10 I liked it but am confused right now so I will watch again.......Charlotte dying was major reason for less than 10....and I am thinking maybe Faraday might be her father...
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:37 AM   #23
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9! I loved it. Didnt like Charlotte dying, though. Sigh.
I loved seeing Smokie!
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Old 02-12-2009, 09:38 AM   #24
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Loved it! I enoyed all the info that we were given and I really liked seeing what happened to Danielle, although I felt really bad for her that she ended up being so alone! When we saw her in season 1 being a bit crazy and talking about how she shot her team I just kind of wrote it off as ok, this lady's crazy, but now seeing how it happened, I felt for her because obviously it must've been hard to kill someone you love. The part with Locke in the well kinda gave me the creeps, but I liked it too! Didn't like Charlotte dying but I think we needed one of the more major characters to die so we'd really see how bad the effects of the island being moved are.
The only thing is, when at the end we see Mrs Hawking and she says "Hello Benjamin" I kinda expected her to also say "Hello Desmond" or something like that too but she didn't, she kinda ignored the fact that he was there.
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:16 AM   #25
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I gave it a 9. I almost gave it a 10, but I wasn't on the edge of my seat as much as the premiere so I had to rate it lower. I liked how we got bits of everyone's story this week. We learned a lot, and it really made you think.
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:19 AM   #26
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Fantastic, for all the obvious reasons. The only down-sides are they killed Charlotte, and they never showed Desmond's reaction to recognizing Ms Hawking. Maybe he hasn't recognized her yet. But those are only enough to lower the score to about 9.6, which still rounds up to 10!
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:24 AM   #27
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I dunno I thought I saw Desmond's shock at Mrs Hawking but they never spoke to each other which I was really looking for.

More and more I worry that Lost is steering clear of giving what the core of the watchers want to see. Spending a few moments with Danielle and her crew which were all exciting action sequences rather than steady character development will mean the casual viewer can be entertained without knowing the backstory of her and her crew. I wanted the majority of an episode dedicated to Danielle and was very disappointed with how they handled it even though the answers were very intriguing but it was like eating something really sweet but it didn't fill you up.
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Old 02-12-2009, 10:54 AM   #28
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Great episode with a good amount of mythology thrown in...I gave it a 10! Now we know how Montand lost his arm, and what happened with Danielle and her crew. The only sour spot to me was Charlotte's death. Nuuuuuuuuu!


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The only down-sides are they killed Charlotte, and they never showed Desmond's reaction to recognizing Ms Hawking. Maybe he hasn't recognized her yet.
You didn't notice the way he stared at her? I did.

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Old 02-12-2009, 01:12 PM   #29
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Re: Rate the Episode!!!

I gave it an 8 -- definitely one of the best eps of the season!

Things I loved about it:

1. Smokey! Great to see yet another facet of him: his "lair", possibly effecting people's personalities, the hieroglyphs, "protecting the temple". Very interesting. And to see how Montand lost his arm: I was seriously freaked out by that scene, knowing it was coming.

2. Christian Shephard -- the guy is seriously creepy! I love him as "possible Jacob" manifestation. And loved that we finally got a lot of plot movement with Locke finding the wheel, and turning it to lead him to become Jeremy Bentham off island.

3. Some great Jin moments, which I loved because he gets so few. And the tie over with Sun (especially the double use of the ring, intended to keep Sun away from the island, and used to bring her toward it instead, was really neat).

4. Charlotte's death -- I'll miss her, especially since women are in short supply on this show, but I loved the doors it opened up for journeying to the past to see more of young Charlotte on the island. Is she Annie? Hmm...

5. Desmond meeting Ms. Hawking again -- I'd like to see where that conversation picks up

Things I didn't like:

1. O6 story = slow as mollases, and didn't tie as well as I would have liked with the on island awesomeness. Hopefully things will really pick up now that the plan is coming together to get them back to the island.

2. Uncertainty regarding Des's place in the story now: so, going to Ms. Hawking doesn't seem to serve that much of a purpose now: Faraday told him to find her to help save the people on the island, but by working with Ben to locate the island, she has already done that part on her own. Granted, Faraday couldn't have known that, but it just makes Des's whole journey a little pointless. I'm guessing, though, the story needed him to wind up there (particularly in the presence of Ms. Hawking) for some reason. Hopefully next week's ep will make that clear.

All in all, great ep!
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Old 02-12-2009, 01:50 PM   #30
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I gave this one a 5 because it felt like a lot of filler to me... on top of one that was largely filler last week.

LOVED the Sawyer/Jin reunion - I've been looking forward to that all season and it did not disappoint. There's such genuine warmth in this unexpected friendship - those two have been through a lot together.

Loved Locke still striving - loved Jin's appeal for him not to bring Sun back to the island; loved Juliet's thank you and Sawyer's distress when he (and the well) disappeared after a flash.

Was unmoved by Charlotte and Daniel/Charlotte. At this point, it feels a bit as though Daniel and Ben have swallowed the show.

I care about Sawyer, Jin, Sun, Juliet, Hurley and Sayid... what's left of my original Losties favorites (minus Michael and Charlie) plus Jules. Jack is a tool - his macho statement to Sun "After what he did to Kate, if you don't (shoot Ben) then I will." was so ridiculous I had to laugh. Sure, Jack... Ben's the same guy you were leaving Kate in hand-cuffs with when you swanned off to take a sub ride home. ... And the same Benyou're STILL following back to the island five minutes later. So the macho posturing is just lame. Kate used to be my favorite of all, but she hasn't made sense since last season. Watching her get all emotional last week, telling Jack on the yacht how she wanted to keep Aaron - huge WTH???? The girl was facing murder charges back in the States. So why not stay aboard with Penny and Des and go underground with the baby? Nothing to do with this girl makes any sense to me any more. Given the combined irritant that is Jack/Kate, and the sheer fillerness of things, I'm not sure how much of this season I'll be able to digest. I'm enjoying the trippiness, but not the pace or half the characters.

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