Re: Since when is Kate not the antithesis of morality?
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Originally Posted by e-lls
Sayid: "Why did you do that?"
Kate: "Why did I do that?... Since when did shooting kids and blowing up hydrogen bombs become okay?"
How's that for a moral flip-flop? This air of righteousness coming from a former convict? Kate's past is riddled with dishonesty and corruption. How can a severalfold murderer make such a statement without even a slight semblance of irony?!
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Erm-When Kate was bank robbing, she shot her cohorts instead of having them kill the innocent bank manager. When the one armed Aussie, gave her up, she took the time to save him from a burning car thereby getting herself caught by the marshall when she could have just run off and let him die. When the plane was crashing, she gave the very marshall that was taking her in, oxygen so he could live, rather than have him die and be free of the constant pursuit. Kate has been written as a walking irony.
Kate saved Ben. Empathised with Roger Linus and now does not want to see children die because Jack thinks his destiny is to change what happened to 300 odd people on the plane by killing several hundreds, mothers and children included on the Island.
It really does not take much to understand Kate. To call her a hypocrite means you do not understand the first thing about her..
You have all lapped up Sawyers so called change. Is he not a murderer? A con artist? Abandoned his own child? It's okay for sawyer to change and become this schmoopy so called great leader but Kate has got to be a hypocrite to voice out what any reasonable person would say given the same situation?
Re: Since when is Kate not the antithesis of morality?
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Originally Posted by e-lls
Sayid: "Why did you do that?"
Kate: "Why did I do that?... Since when did shooting kids and blowing up hydrogen bombs become okay?"
How's that for a moral flip-flop? This air of righteousness coming from a former convict? Kate's past is riddled with dishonesty and corruption. How can a severalfold murderer make such a statement without even a slight semblance of irony?!
Something's up with Kate.
LOL Terminology - Kate is not a former convict unless you can point to a trial where she was convicted? Sawyer is an example of a former convict.
Kate's past is riddled with dishonesty and corruption as is Sawyer's past, Ben's Past, Sayid's past, Jack's past Locke's past etc etc. Out of those how many favor killing children? Jack & Sayid at least.
Multiple murderer? Kate murdered her father - but if she is a multiple murderer we should be able to put together a list of her victims the same way we can for Sayid, Sawyer, Ben etc etc. I don't count her ex-boyfriend's death even though she was guilt ridden over being unable to prevent it.
Kate & moral standards - they have been consistant since the first season in showing that Kate does have moral standards & limits. Although Kate haters have managed to wear blinders that prevent their seeing this in her. Since she has never taken a stand that advocated or resulted in either killing children or in setting off a hydrogen bomb there is no moral flip flop in her to take a stance against such action now. The moral flip flopper is Jack who would have let child Ben die.
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Re: Since when is Kate not the antithesis of morality?
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Jack would be saving the lives of several people if his ridiculous theory worked. I think that outweighs any crud that Kate comes up with. Too bad for John and Rose, but I think it's a good thing in general for the people who died, who outnumber these others.
So saving a few lives negates taking more lives? Interesting.
Re: Since when is Kate not the antithesis of morality?
Or... it could just be that morals or no, she realizes how insane this plan of Jack/Daniel's is. She may be a little flaky at times, but she's not an idiot. Then again, I would have said the same of Jack and Sayid before last night...
Re: Since when is Kate not the antithesis of morality?
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Originally Posted by gocp
Erm-When Kate was bank robbing, she shot her cohorts instead of having them kill the innocent bank manager. When the one armed Aussie, gave her up, she took the time to save him from a burning car thereby getting herself caught by the marshall when she could have just run off and let him die. When the plane was crashing, she gave the very marshall that was taking her in, oxygen so he could live, rather than have him die and be free of the constant pursuit. Kate has been written as a walking irony.
You're right, Kate's morality is based pretty much entirely on her sense of empathy, which she is extremely generous with, even to people who harm her (except with her father, because she has daddy issues). Not too bad a thing, overall. So her position really isn't very different from what we've seen from her throughout.
Re: Since when is Kate not the antithesis of morality?
I also think Kate simply doesn't want to go to prison. Sure she might miss Jack and Sawyer for a while but not as long as a prison sentence for murdering her father.
She probably has the most to lose out of them all, should things "never of happened" like Jack wants it to be.
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