I guess now we know WHY Smokie didn't kill Ben...

[Fierro]

Working on the premise that The Smoke Monster is actually Esau and that he is capable of taking the form of people that have died on the island....

It is very interesting to think that Esau, as smokie, let Ben live so he could threat him, as Alex, to kill him if he didn't do what Locke told him to. And just happens that that Locke was also Esau, who wanted to kill Jacob so badly!!!

Brilliant!

This guy is even a better manipulator than Ben!!!

[LostMyMarbles]

I agree that Esau is Smoky. But that means Smoky acts on-island and off-island at the same time. We've already see that it can separate into several pieces, but this sure does extend its known powers.

[Daphne]

And along these lines, it was Esau/Smokey who told Richard to tell real Locke he had to die to bring the Losties back...

[Fierro]

Originally Posted by Daphne

And along these lines, it was Esau/Smokey who told Richard to tell real Locke he had to die to bring the Losties back...

yeah!

If Locke hadn't died, Esau wouldn't have been able to take his form in order to convince Ben to kill Jacob.

I actually feel very sorry for Locke. Don't you guys????


Now the word 'substitute', as Eloise put it, takes a whole new meaning....

[morodrim]

Originally Posted by Fierro

Working on the premise that The Smoke Monster is actually Esau and that he is capable of taking the form of people that have died on the island....

It is very interesting to think that Esau, as smokie, let Ben live so he could threat him, as Alex, to kill him if he didn't do what Locke told him to. And just happens that that Locke was also Esau, who wanted to kill Jacob so badly!!!

Brilliant!

This guy is even a better manipulator than Ben!!!

I would amend the bold part to be "dead bodies on the island"...Locke died off island, but the body was brought back. Yemi off island, but body reached the island. Christian Sheppard as well (if you believe that's been Smokey as well).

Yeah, the whole Esau reveal makes me look back through everything to see where his influence was felt. With the above amendment, now it makes sense why Locke's body had to come back...so Esau could take his form. But who gave those instructions to Ben?

[Fierro]

you are right about Locke dying off the island, though.....


mmmm


Perhaps it is people that are now dead but have been on the island at some point and 'scanned' by Smokie?

[Tio BOB]

I believe that the Smokie is waaaay older than Jabob or Esau. But Esau learned how to take over Smokie and use him (it) at his favour.

[Lost Ed]

Here comes 100% disagreement, based on the following.

If Esau is Locke & Smokey...then why is he so very surprised when Ben tells him that he will do whatever he asks because Alex told him to or else?

If Locke = Esau = Smokey, there should be no surprise there. Locke should have already known that's what he (As Alex) told Ben.

Ergo: Esau Locke is not Smokey

[Fierro]

Originally Posted by Lost Ed

Here comes 100% disagreement, based on the following.

If Esau is Locke & Smokey...then why is he so very surprised when Ben tells him that he will do whatever he asks because Alex told him to or else?

If Locke = Esau = Smokey, there should be no surprise there. Locke should have already known that's what he (As Alex) told Ben.

Ergo: Esau Locke is not Smokey

Esau was playing a role. He needed to act surprise so Ben woudln't suspect. Ben doesn't know that Locke knew about his conversation with 'ALex'.

[Flagg1982]

Is Esau really smokey ?
I don't know. I mean we did see Ben summon the smoke monster to fight off Kimmy and his commandos. And it's not intelligent enough to get over that sonic fence ?