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The Candidate Air Date: 04/27/2010 60 minutes EP: 614
Written by Elizabeth Sarnoff, Jim Galasso
Directed by Jack Bender


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Old 05-04-2010, 05:00 PM   #1
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:49 PM   #2
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This whole season has been a lot of nothing. This season sucks! How many episodes have their been? Everything that has happened could have been done in 2 episodes. What a waste of 5 seasons for this.
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Old 05-04-2010, 11:08 PM   #3
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Boring. Even my wife thought it sucked, and she's been a lot more forgiving of this season than I have.

After making Sun run around for the better part of two seasons with no lines other than "where's my husband?" (and then taking even those lines away), did the writers really expect me to care about the Sun/Jin death scene? Honestly? Even Charlie's death had more impact on me, and I hated his character.

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Old 05-04-2010, 11:08 PM   #4
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Claire being abandoned again didn't exactly do much for me.....
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:17 AM   #5
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Truly the most disturbing, violent show of it's kind ever broadcast.

Three main beloved characters killed in the most violent and torturous ways imagineable. Taking two people who have scoured heaven and earth to be together and then rejoice all of five minutes regulated to watching each other die in a slow, painful, horrific manner...knowing their child is now an orphan?? Then the slow motion soft light drifting of the bodies away? Sad.

This is crash TV at it's worst.

Name one show (not named "The Pacific") that has a body count like this show. Even the last season of the Sopranos didn't have this high of a casualty rate but at least it MADE SENSE!! This makes ZERO sense.

And ya, I get it. The flash sideways will be the redemption of them all and all will be well (my personal opinion not based on anything as I am spoiler free). But this was disgusting.

The only sliver of humanity on this show tonight was when Hugo broke down on the beach. That was the only believeable moment in 44 minutes of body shreading mayhem.

And...Wow...first five minutes...more gun fire, attempted murder, threatening with murder and Jack and Bernard are working in the same complex everyone else is living and working in...wow. What reach.

Wow, Kate is again used as murder bait to get James to behave. You would think at this point, he would just shoot her himself and tell Chuck "Your Move." And just in case you don't remember why Sawyer had to go into the cage..it was because that chubby fella "Gots the Gun!!" Instead of snappy, deep dialoge we now just jam a gun into people's faces.

And, Jack is reminded if he doesn't go on yet another search and rescue mission of the bumbling Oceanic 815 who seemingly can't walk from here to there without being captured by armed mauraders...he can be KILLED by smoke!

For the love of all things holy...Can we have some diversity with this season?? When did it take such a violent, dark, murderous tone?

Oh, and guys with guns? Bullets can't damage smoke...as it is not made of solid matter and is gaseous in nature allowing bullets to pass safely through. Nice writing.

I must say I think they made Mr. Cooper watch this final season on infinite loop from the way he looked.

And all this time...we need to take the submarine??? The Plane was useless to begin with. IT IS STUCK IN SAND FOR GOD"S SAKE!!!

And the logic of sending flesh and blood people to attack the sub when a pillar of man eating smoke ducks behind barrels is....what now?

Is there any reason to think FLOCK couldn't swirl through there and take out the bad men with more guns who opened fire on them?? Instead...he gets into a GUNFIGHT with them??? For real??

And nobody on the sub thought this odd..."Gee, he took all those other's out with smoke in ten seconds...but now he is engaging them in a prolonged gunfight away from the sub in human form...you don't think?? NAH! Let's go!! We tricked him!!

Oh, and no reason to tell the captain the reason to surface...JUST DO IT!! How about..."um, we have three minutes to live if you don't get us up Capt..there is a bomb on board."

Who amungst us did not know that timer would start again and in double time? Lazy lazy writing.

This show has taken such a disturbing, diabolical sheen that it in no way resembles the show we all loved from Season one.

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Three main beloved characters killed in the most violent and torturous ways imagineable. Taking two people who have scoured heaven and earth to be together and then rejoice all of five minutes regulated to watching each other die in a slow, painful, horrific manner...knowing their child is now an orphan?? Then the slow motion soft light drifting of the bodies away? Sad.
Yeah... I'm really just saying to myself all the time "what was the point?"
Why have Sun and Jin struggle to find eachother for YEARS only to die one episode after their reuinion?

Is there some rule that says all the characters have to be killed off before the series can end?? Or more likely: the writers are too lazy to think of meaningful things to write for this many characters anymore.

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Agreed. Everyone on that Island should be having mental breakdowns right about now. Most soldiers don't see that much combat and bloodshed.

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And the logic of sending flesh and blood people to attack the sub when a pillar of man eating smoke ducks behind barrels is....what now?

Is there any reason to think FLOCK couldn't swirl through there and take out the bad men with more guns who opened fire on them?? Instead...he gets into a GUNFIGHT with them??? For real??
yeah... there seems to be no rhyme or reason to when Flocke decides to kill people as Smokey or to just tackle issues in human form. I think the trend is, whenever Flocke is already on-screen, he uses his human form, because the show doesn't have the resources to show a transformation from man-to-smoke.

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Right, cause that's how watches work.

This episode was no more of a travesty than the rest of the season has been but man... it just felt so stupid and pointless. I didn't get so involved with Lost because it reminded me of Live Free Or Die Hard, as it does now.
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I think people were so wrapped up in whether the answers to the mysteries would be disappointing, they forgot to worry about the simpler aspects of the writing.

THREE beloved main characters were killed off in the most contrived sloppy-action movie scenerio possible. The reason? I quote Darlton, in a post-episode non-spoiler interview on EW:

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The main narrative reason for him killing our main characters is to establish how much of a bad guy he is and to clearly identify him as the antagonist rolling into the end of the series.
Lost has always been at its worst when the plot moved the characters instead of the characters moving the plot. But unfortunately for us, they've decided to take this approach for nearly this entire last season. The characters are merely pawns on a chess board, but not just for Jacob and MiB, but for the writers too. It's mechanical.

I'm incredibly worried about the remaining episodes. Not because of the answers we might not get, but because of how sloppily the characters will be handled before they're inevitably blowed up real good.

I'm so deeply disappointed by this episode. The characters deserve better than that.

Think of this: more time was spent on Nikki and Paulo's deaths than Sun and Jin's.
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Old 05-05-2010, 01:16 AM   #8
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Have you all read this article? [COLOR=#2276bb]http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/04/ff_lost/all/1[/COLOR] This is why I didn't care for this episode. In this article tptb say that the audience are like 3 year olds where if you answer a question they keep asking you why so all you can do is point to something like Chuck E Cheese to distract them. Them killing off main characters was the Chuck E Cheese moment. It will get those of us that are easily distracted to stop talking about the inconsistencies in the few answers they gave us like Christian Shephard.

Give it a read. If you are down on this season and think it's going no where the writers pretty much validate your feelings.

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Old 05-05-2010, 01:36 AM   #9
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I agree with you, Baileysdad. Sun and Jin = fail. Smocke using guns instead of his black smoke persona = fail. Kate & Claire = fail. Epic fail all around, I'd say.
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