We know Jacob and Flocke have been hanging around this island for a while.
We know Flocke is desperate to bail, and 'go home.'
We know Jacob is the one orchestrating people finding the island: now we apparently know that they're meant to be candidates, who can replace him as Protector.
I'm wondering:
1. If Jacob needed a Candidate, why didn't he simply tap into Ben, or one of the Others, like Widmore or Ellie, years ago? Surely, rather than coercing/ manipulating unsuspecting people to the Island over and over, he would've been better off using someone who was willingly on the Island, wanted to stay, and was aware of the island's properties? Seems like a lot of guesswork and a waste of time, bringing strangers to the Island repeatedly and hoping one of them turned out to be Candidate. Unless someone else altogether is providing him with names?
2. If Jacob was looking for a replacement, doesn't that indicate he would've left the Island after finding one? I mean, you don't need a replacement unless you're leaving. So, if he left, wouldn't MIB be able to leave too? Considering these two are bound together? And if that's the case, wouldn't MIB want Jacob to find that replacement pronto, so he could hightail it out of there? Unless Jacob's departure somehow meant eternal island imprisonment for MIB?
3. So many crossed out names, so many possible candidates. To me, it seems being the right/ successful candidate requires some sort of uniqueness, or some enormous sacrifice. It's a job that hasn't been filled for decades, maybe even centuries. What does one need to be the right candidate?
Thoughts? And apologies if there's another thread for this.
2. If Jacob was looking for a replacement, doesn't that indicate he would've left the Island after finding one? I mean, you don't need a replacement unless you're leaving. So, if he left, wouldn't MIB be able to leave too? Considering these two are bound together? And if that's the case, wouldn't MIB want Jacob to find that replacement pronto, so he could hightail it out of there? Unless Jacob's departure somehow meant eternal island imprisonment for MIB?
That's been bugging me too. Or did Jacob know he was going to die and therefore need a replacement? He could be kind of selfish at that point, and let the island fend for itself.
Seems strange that Rousseau said that Smokey protects the island and Montand said it he protects the temple when, in reality, neither seems to be true.
Why didn't Jacob pick someone like Illana or Bram. They were perfectly willing to work for him and risk their lives to come to the Island. Why weren't they suitable candidates?
Why didn't Jacob pick someone like Illana or Bram. They were perfectly willing to work for him and risk their lives to come to the Island. Why weren't they suitable candidates?
Good followers do not generally make good leaders.
Why didn't Jacob pick someone like Illana or Bram. They were perfectly willing to work for him and risk their lives to come to the Island. Why weren't they suitable candidates?
It can't just be some random person though. They have to fulfill some sort or requirements. One is being on this huge list (I don't think Richard, Bram, etc. are on it.) After that you have to pass certain tests I think.
We see Charlie going through tests with is heroin. After he kicks it, they find a plane full of heroin. Hurley trashes his food then food drops from the sky. I bet there are specific tasks and tests that each of our Losties are going through.
It can't just be some random person though. They have to fulfill some sort or requirements. One is being on this huge list (I don't think Richard, Bram, etc. are on it.) After that you have to pass certain tests I think.
We see Charlie going through tests with is heroin. After he kicks it, they find a plane full of heroin. Hurley trashes his food then food drops from the sky. I bet there are specific tasks and tests that each of our Losties are going through.
Well then that brings up the question: What makes Illana and Bram so special that they can stop others a la Miles from going to the Island? What is it about this group that makes them right for having this special question and the ability to offer huge sums of money to keep certain people from the Island?
So, is one's role determined by personality, experiences, or something else i.e. pre-determination?
Also, re Ilana and Bram, where do they get their resources from? Can't imagine Jacob handing out wads of cash, though it is possible.
I want to know where the List originally came from, and the more I ponder it, the more it seems it was preordained and given to Jacob, somehow. I used to feel Jacob had created it, but now I feel he had this endless list of possible names, and he tried influencing as many as he could off island. Some worked, some didn't. And of those who managed to come to the island, most died.
That kid may be the answer: if he's a referee or supervisor of the Game and both Jacob and MIB, perhaps he gave the names to Jacob over time, allowing him to make his move via interaction with candidates.
Well then that brings up the question: What makes Illana and Bram so special that they can stop others a la Miles from going to the Island? What is it about this group that makes them right for having this special question and the ability to offer huge sums of money to keep certain people from the Island?
Plaase don't take this the wrong way but:
It was Whidmore who had the money to pay Miles to go to the Island.
"Some Like it Hoth"
Quote:
NAOMI: From what I understand Miles, if the price is right this is exactly your thing.
[Naomi tosses Miles a wad of money. Miles looks at it.]
Ilana's and Bram's group refused to pay him anything.
"Some Like it Hoth"
Quote:
MILES: I don't know where you've been getting your intel, but I stopped caring about my father a long time ago. What I do care about is money. So, I'll tell you what, you want me to pass on going to the island It's gonna cost you double what they offered. Three point two million.
BRAM: We're not paying you anything. All the money in the world isn’t gonna fill that empty hole inside you Miles.
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