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Ab Aeterno Air Date: 03/23/2010 65 minutes EP: 609
Written by Melinda Hsu, Greggory Nations
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Old 04-01-2010, 01:02 AM   #1
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So Richard isn't even 200 years old?

If Richard was in his (presumably) thirties in 1867, he's barely 170 in 2007. Real people have nearly lived as long. All this time we've been lead to think that Richard was like, superhumanly amazingly old, perhaps thousands of years, and he's not even 200?

I'm forced to say it; suck it up, crybaby! "I devoted my whole life to Jacob, and now I realize it was for nothing so I want to die." Oh boo hoo, you spent 130 years of ageless immortality as the king of an island paradise, poor you. I'd give anything for a reign like that. And he's bemoaning it like he's so unfortunate?

Seriously, Richard being so young (compared to Jacob and MIB, who are probably as old as humanity itself) was completely disjarring to me. They could as easily have set his story at any time; why not the 1400s, during the age of exploration? Then I'd buy his tantrum. But not even 200 years? Come on.

I guess I should've expected Richard to be such a fragile flower, given how metro he is, but still.
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Re: So Richard isn't even 200 years old?

With the greatest of respect, no recorded and verified human being has lived anywhere near that long.

If he were in his thirties or early forties in 1867 then it would put his age in 2007 at between 170 and 185, which is significantly older (roughly fifty years) than the oldest recorded person of verified age (122).

I don't think we've been led to believe he's "superhumanly amazingly old". Juliet described Alpert as "old", with a heavy accent on that word. Ben said Alpert had been in the role of an 'advisor' for a very (accented) long time. His time on the island (140 years) is indeed a very long time to have been in one place, given that in itself, excluding his off-island time, it exceeds the entire lifespan of the oldest verified human.

I'd say 140 years of doing the same job only to find out that you may never find answers to many of your questions would give decent grounds for him being a little 'frustrated'.

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Re: So Richard isn't even 200 years old?

How many people live to even just 100 but have the bodies of a 30-40 year old? None.





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Re: So Richard isn't even 200 years old?

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How many people live to even just 100 but have the bodies of a 30-40 year old? None.
lol

Yeah Richard is not so great he isn't even two centuries old what a joke, jk.

I was more upset that he doesn't even really know anything, and that he was so quick to want to kill himself, it was sort of like:
Richard: Jacob is dead?
Hurley: Yep
Richard: Aww, forget this I'm gonna kill myself.
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Re: So Richard isn't even 200 years old?

That Richard's just a real wuss. 180??

Hilarious post.
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Re: So Richard isn't even 200 years old?

he lived 150 odd years on that Island and got no answers in all that time. just look how nutty Lost fans have gotten after only 5 years of no answers. I'd want to blow my self to hell with dynamite too if I were Richard.
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With the greatest of respect, no recorded and verified human being has lived anywhere near that long.

If he were in his thirties or early forties in 1867 then it would put his age in 2007 at between 170 and 185, which is significantly older (roughly fifty years) than the oldest recorded person of verified age (122).

I don't think we've been led to believe he's "superhumanly amazingly old". Juliet described Alpert as "old", with a heavy accent on that word. Ben said Alpert had been in the role of an 'advisor' for a very (accented) long time. His time on the island (140 years) is indeed a very long time to have been in one place, given that in itself, excluding his off-island time, it exceeds the entire lifespan of the oldest verified human.

I'd say 140 years of doing the same job only to find out that you may never find answers to many of your questions would give decent grounds for him being a little 'frustrated'.
With due respect, you've got the lifespans I was thinking of exactly; Richard hasn't even lived two human lifespans. Not even two. Just slightly longer than one.

Plus "very old," "he's old" etc. smacks to me of thousands of years, given the timescale we're used to when talking about mythological things (the Tawaret statue may have been built in years B.C.E.).

Then again, I suppose I'm just biased against immortality angst. I'd be happy as a clam if I was Richard. So what if I wasted 100+ years following Jacob; I'm fracking immortal -- I can live another 1,000 years and make up for it!

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he lived 150 odd years on that Island and got no answers in all that time. just look how nutty Lost fans have gotten after only 5 years of no answers. I'd want to blow my self to hell with dynamite too if I were Richard.
But that island is paradisic, and Richard doesn't age. If I were in his shoes, I'd be fine with no answers. There's a lot in my life I don't have answers for, but because I don't expect them in any reasonable amount of time, it's not frustrating. No answers from Lost is only frustrating because there's a reasonable expectation that we should be getting answers to stuff; an expectation rarely met.
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With due respect, you've got the lifespans I was thinking of exactly; Richard hasn't even lived two human lifespans. Not even two. Just slightly longer than one.
I'm not so sure. He has lived for around fifty years longer than the oldest recorded human being (not really slightly longer), and has more than doubled the average male lifespan.

Average lifespan for a man born in the US is 76.
Average lifespan for a man born in the UK is 77.
Average lifespan for a man born in Spain (which governs the Canaries) is 78.
Average lifespan for a man born in Morocco (closest geographically to the Canaries) is 69.

The highest male life expectancy of any country in the world is just over 80 years (Iceland).

Comparison with the statue is a bit of a fallacy - one might as well compare Richard with the age of dinosaur skeletons in order to construct an argument that he isn't really very old at all.

I'd say Richard's extraordinary, and unique.
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Re: So Richard isn't even 200 years old?

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I'm not so sure. He has lived for around fifty years longer than the oldest recorded human being (not really slightly longer), and has more than doubled the average male lifespan.

Average lifespan for a man born in the US is 76.
Average lifespan for a man born in the UK is 77.
Average lifespan for a man born in Spain (which governs the Canaries) is 78.
Average lifespan for a man born in Morocco (closest geographically to the Canaries) is 69.

The highest male life expectancy of any country in the world is just over 80 years (Iceland).

Comparison with the statue is a bit of a fallacy - one might as well compare Richard with the age of dinosaur skeletons in order to construct an argument that he isn't really very old at all.

I'd say Richard's extraordinary, and unique.


I'd like to add to that... the average lif span of a male in the 1800's was about 55 years old..
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I'm not so sure. He has lived for around fifty years longer than the oldest recorded human being (not really slightly longer), and has more than doubled the average male lifespan.

Average lifespan for a man born in the US is 76.
Average lifespan for a man born in the UK is 77.
Average lifespan for a man born in Spain (which governs the Canaries) is 78.
Average lifespan for a man born in Morocco (closest geographically to the Canaries) is 69.

The highest male life expectancy of any country in the world is just over 80 years (Iceland).

Comparison with the statue is a bit of a fallacy - one might as well compare Richard with the age of dinosaur skeletons in order to construct an argument that he isn't really very old at all.

I'd say Richard's extraordinary, and unique.
Leave it to a Lost fan to go straight to the numbers. You're completely missing the point! The point is, Richard isn't really that old. He's angsting like he's been around since the beginning of creation. 200 years is nothing.
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