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The Moth Air Date: 11/03/2004 EP: 106
Written by Jennifer Johnson & Paul Dini
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Old 11-04-2004, 02:20 PM   #21
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Re: Sayid's Words on Surviving the Crash

[size=10pt][/size]They aren't dead! They are LOST!
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Old 11-04-2004, 02:27 PM   #22
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Re: Sayid's Words on Surviving the Crash

I agree they aren't dead........BUTTTTTTTTTT if they were...people who die there coudl be going on to heaven or hell.......The marshall was close to death so he was CLOSE to heaven or hell......etc...

But i do not believe this.
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Old 11-04-2004, 03:00 PM   #23
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In aintitcool.com I read that there was a parallel with Stephen King's "The Stand" in the entire feel of the series, so your "heaven/hell" thing might me very close.
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Old 11-04-2004, 10:15 PM   #24
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I don't believe they are dead because that would just defeat the purpose of having a dramatic plot-- why care about the characters if it's not going to matter? The reason they survived that crash was because they had to-- there wouldn't be a show if they hadn't, yes?

Or maybe the show will turn out to have a Sophie's World-type premise. You'd never know...
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June: To the comment about not caring for the characters if they were dead. So a person would not care about a character if the character was already dead? Hmm, does not make sense to me. The audience has characters to relate too and with. This means the audience naturally is going to care about one character on the show since the show is so diverse. Dead or alive, the audience will care for a character. Maybe I missed the point, tell me if I did.

Speaker: I agree as well, no one is dead till the island kills him or her. Well, in the case of the drowned girl, maybe the water killed her but speculation may say the island had something to do with this. But if this were purgatory, the three people who have died, the marshal, the drowned girl, and the pilot, went to hell right? I mean, none of the three died a pleasant death. I would associate a painful or scary death with hell, and a happy death with heaven. Come on people, this is not purgatory. Makes zero sense and would not be relevant in today's society.


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Hmm. What I was trying to say was along the lines of "I would be really disappointed if this show turned out to be the purgatory type because I've been caring about the development and possible rescue of these characters and it turns out that it was all for nothing and they're just waiting to DIE." Of course, there would be people who wouldn't really be bothered by this because the people-finding-resolution-before-they-die thing works for them... I am not such a person, unfortunately.

Also: How in the world would one die a happy death? I mean, they're stuck on an island so the only way I forsee characters dying is through some horrible injury/food poisoning or the like.

And finally: Don't you ever sleep?
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Hmm. What I was trying to say was along the lines of "I would be really disappointed if this show turned out to be the purgatory type because I've been caring about the development and possible rescue of these characters and it turns out that it was all for nothing and they're just waiting to DIE." Of course, there would be people who wouldn't really be bothered by this because the people-finding-resolution-before-they-die thing works for them... I am not such a person, unfortunately.
I understand your point now and completely agree. I would be horribly disappointed if this was a purgatory situation or had anything specifically to do with religion. I would not mind if there were religion aspects like there have been but nothing more in depth.

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Also: How in the world would one die a happy death? I mean, they're stuck on an island so the only way I forsee characters dying is through some horrible injury/food poisoning or the like. And finally: Don't you ever sleep?
I was thinking more along the lines of dying what is assumed a peaceful death in s persons sleep or something instant as assumed like "a bullet in your head". Someone tell me what the quote I just quoted is from. Such a great line and a great ****.

I do sleep but sparingly. I have Lost things to talk about and some school work for college.

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Re: Sayid's Words on Surviving the Crash

June-

Marvel has a comic book miniseries by Neil Gaiman called "Marvel 1602"...it's the marvel universe but it takes place in 1602..

Reed Richards, Mr. Fantastic of the Fantastic Four is talking to Benn Grimm, The Thing, Johnny Storm, the human torch, and Sue Storm, The Invisible Woman and this conversation takes place:

Sue: So, what are these fundamental principles, if they are not atoms?

Reed: Stories. And they give me hope. We are not a boatful of monsters and miracles, hoping that somehow, we can survive a world in which all hands are against us. A world which by all evidence will end extremely soon. Yet I posit we are in a universe which favours stories. A universe in which no story can ever end; in which there can be only continuances. If we are in such a universe as I have a chance.

Johnny: You're talking rot, Reed. Poor jean grey's story is over. Von Doom's story is done. All tales end. and our world will end likewise.

Ben: Reed-you spoke of transmutations. Can you restore to me my humanity? I have been a monster too long.

Reed: In truth, i do not know my friend. The natural sciences say yes, a cure is possible. But the laws of story would suggest that no cure can last for very long, Benjamin, for in the end, alsas, you are so much more interesting and satisfying as you are.


Perhaps a similar theory applies here. They survived because it's more interesting. Because the Story Gods dictate it so.

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Perhaps a similar theory applies here.* They survived because it's more interesting.* Because the Story Gods dictate it so.
That's an absolutely Pratchettian thing to say Suspension Of Disbelief Helps Move Along The Plot, that kind of thing, yes?
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Re: Sayid's Words on Surviving the Crash

Terry Pratchet??? LOL w00t! But yes...exactly! I mean with all the mythologies around shows and movies out there, why dismiss something like story gods, beings like Fury and Javi and Damon and Deni and JJ and J-Jo who make things happen because it entertains them......

Of course some people may take this theory and say it supports the Locke's Head theory...

But no...i suggest this is all REAL and that the universe they are in allows for these things to happen...

For shirts and giggles
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