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... And Found Air Date: 10/19/2005 60 minutes EP: 205
Written by Carlton Cuse & Damon Lindelof
Directed by Stephen Williams


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Old 10-20-2005, 02:10 AM   #1
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The little Other changed as it passed by!

I have watched the scene where the Others pass in the jungle at least a dozen times. I have skimmed through the messages to see if anyone else caught this, and have found nothing so far.

When the person carrying the bear passes, it is clear that this person is MUCH smaller than the rest. The knees are much lower. The child looks about the size of a 6 - 7 yer old. The pants are longish (much nearer the ankle than the knee) and the feet are bare. The kid has the teddy bear dangling from a rope.
Then, as the same kid passes and we see him/her from a different angle, still holding the bear, suddenly the pants are much shorter, the legs are longer and he/she is wearing shoes!

WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT!!!!!

Did we have an episode of missing time....like 5 years?? It was as if the person outgrew their pants in mere seconds! (Edited to point out the sarcasm of the previous statement) The shoes are hard to see on my old tv, but they remind me of the athletic shoes of the 70's. Very trim cut - not bulky, blue striped with a tan, rubber-band colored sole. You see the shoes when the person has passed by and we are just seeing him/her the second time. But as the foot moves back, you see only the sole fom behind and it blends in with the skin color. I watched this frame-by-frame.

It seemed impossible to count the Others. We would see them from one point of view, then again as they looked from Jin and Eko's point of view.

Then we have the bears bandaged leg. Another for the list of missing or injured limbs.

Why was the bear bandaged? Sometimes a favorite bear will get an imaginary injury to match the childs. Or perhaps this child was used to witnessing lots of injured limbs. They seem to be plentiful on this island.

I am curious if anyone with HD TV can check this scene and comfirm what we saw here on my crappy old tv. Was this just a huge error in editing, or did the little Other grow a foot taller and acquire some retro footwear?

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Old 10-20-2005, 02:14 AM   #2
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Re: The little Other changed as it passed by!

Good catch on the bandaged leg. I wasnt really sure what that strip of cloth was on the bear, but I did notice it... Wasnt Micheal's leg in a cast? Is that what the bear is mimicking? The kid couldnt have been Walt though...
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Old 10-20-2005, 02:29 AM   #3
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Re: The little Other changed as it passed by!

Here are 2 screen caps from Lost-Media:
First time the Teddy is seen:
http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&albu m=757&pos=358
Second time the Teddy is seen:
http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&albu m=757&pos=360

To my eye, it looks like the same set of legs, same size, same pants and barefeet. The Teddy is hanging at about knee level in both. The pants seem longer in the first pic perhaps because the leg is straight and the cut-off bottom is hidden by a fern.

Here's another where the feet look bare, just dirty.
http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?name=coppermine&file=displayimage&albu m=757&pos=360

But you're right about adding the poor Teddy's leg to the limb list!!
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Old 10-20-2005, 02:31 AM   #4
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Re: The little Other changed as it passed by!

Bandaged left leg on bear. I thought of a bear loosing it's stuffing from being old.

As to how many passed. I looked at pants also and tried to eliminate the same pants as they passed Jin. I thought there was 12 others. (Also looked like the same two passed at the front and end of the line------that may have been just the use of extras...don't know.)
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Old 10-20-2005, 02:43 AM   #5
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Re: The little Other changed as it passed by!

I found screencaps on Lost-media.
Hope this works!

First view of Other with bear - long pants, can't see the feet in this cap:
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/7cb419e906.jpg

After he/she passes - now with shoes, long legs and short pants:
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/9f14ae8d8f.jpg

Another:
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/290a026313.jpg
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Old 10-20-2005, 02:51 AM   #6
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Re: The little Other changed as it passed by!

Pattycakes, you beat me to it. But my caps have been brightened up to where you can see them more clearly. If you compare - the first pair of pants looks baggy and you can see where the knee is from the bouffed out fabric. I the third, the pants are tight. The shoes seem very clear to me in the second shot.
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Old 10-20-2005, 03:16 AM   #7
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Re: The little Other changed as it passed by!

Sorry MPmom, but they just look like very dirty feet, not shoes, to me. Now, I know for a fact that sometimes when actor's have to walk barefoot over things that might hurt their feet, they put on latex "soles", sort of like the prosthetic Hobbit feet used in LoTR. I guess that could be the case here, but if it is they are made up to look like dirty feet.

Anybody else?
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Old 10-20-2005, 03:23 AM   #8
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Re: The little Other changed as it passed by!

First post, so hey you all. I was thinking about this and maybe he pulled his pant leg up to indicate he was aware that Echo and Jin were there.

The other ones with exposed feet had light spots so no tennis shoes imo.
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Old 10-20-2005, 03:48 AM   #9
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Re: The little Other changed as it passed by!

I definitely do not see shoes- just very dirty feet. The pants do look different though. In one shot the pants legs appear to be up (or cropped), in another the legs are down. Possible continuity error IMO... another possibility though- twins? Dunno.
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Old 10-20-2005, 04:07 AM   #10
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Re: The little Other changed as it passed by!

Are you people looking at the same picture I am?
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/9f14ae8d8f.jpg

The shoes are very clear. You can see that the uppers are blue and you can see the dark trim around the ankle. The sole of this style of shoe wraps up around the sides slightly. They are old style track shoes. I think they are specifically for sprinting. They don't make them like this anymore with the wrap around gum soles. You would have to be older to recognize the style.

If you cant see it in the picture, watch the scene frame-by-frame.
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