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Old 11-13-2005, 12:12 PM   #1
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Theory of understandability (for lack of better word)

*First time poster here!* If I'm posting this in the wrong place or if others have already said something similar, sorry! Direct me to where I need to be. That being said...

I am not quite sure what my theory is yet but I do know one thing: It can't be anything that's too sci-fi or too mythological. It has to be something that the average Joe Schmo who watches can understand. It can't be something where after however many years the show goes on, it's revealed and people go "That is so stupid (or whatever). I can't believe I wasted x years of my life watching this!"

I really like some of the theories I've seen on here and after reading them I had to buy the first season on DVD and go back and watch again more closely.

A few things I think/wonder about:
1. Walt definitely has special powers. In the first season, in episode 3, Tabula Rasa, Michael tells Walt, "I'll get your dog back as soon as it stops raining" Walt looks outside and it immediatly stops raining. I am sure there are other instances of this but I haven't watched the whole season yet. I think that perhaps Walt doesn't fully understand the powers, he just knows that if he wants or thinks something, it sometimes happens.

2. Is there signifigance to the number 23? As I said, I'm working on watching the 1st season more closely, but already, after only watching the first 4 ep's, I have noticed that Jack's seat on the plane was 23A, which means Rose was also in seat 23-something; when they burn the fuselage, they read off another name that was in a seat in row 23; Ray's reward for turning in Kate was $23,000; 23 is one of "the numbers-4, 8, 15, 16, 23, 42" I will be keeping my eye out for more instances of that number coming up. Does anyone else know any places it comes up? Perhaps it's just coincidence, perhaps not.

3. Locke-man of mystery. He is almost godlike. He seems all knowing. How does he know everything about everything??? He knows the ancient history of backgammon, he knows how to hunt boar, he always talks about "destiny" and what he's "supposed to do".

Also, just a small note: several times when they've heard strange noises from the jungle I have heard the sound of a loon. Being from Maine (USA) I would recognize that anywhere. Probably just a sound the producers found that was kinda spooky to use, I'm sure it's not signifigant.

Anyway, feel free to add on, shoot down, whatever. Just be nice!!!
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Old 11-13-2005, 01:38 PM   #2
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Re: Theory of understandability (for lack of better word)

Anyone??? Thoughts????
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Old 11-13-2005, 02:00 PM   #3
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Re: Theory of understandability (for lack of better word)

Hi, and welcome to the lage

I would suggest checking out N.U.M.B.E.R.S. under general theories. We have a list of all the sightings of the number 23, as well as the other cursed numbers.

There is another thread called The number 6, which is other number sightings.

Check out the B.I.R.D. thread too. We'd love to hear about your loon theory.
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Old 11-13-2005, 03:41 PM   #4
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Also, just a small note: several times when they've heard strange noises from the jungle I have heard the sound of a loon. Being from Maine (USA) I would recognize that anywhere. Probably just a sound the producers found that was kinda spooky to use, I'm sure it's not signifigant.
I've heard the loon too. Maybe it just means there's insanity in the jungle.

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How does he know everything about everything???
Well, I have no doubt that Locke is bright, and possibly extremely intuitive. Still, I can't shake the feeling that prior to crashing on the island, he probably was a serious history buff. I think history has probably always been a passion for him, and not just the history that you get by reading. He probably took every opportunity to study living history. My daughter is that way about history, and she comes by it honestly since most of the family has similar interests. She isn't satisfied to know how something is done. She wants to be able to do it herself. There are plenty of ways to learn the things that Locke knows. If you have an interest in it, there are schools for it, and the occasional rendezvous you can attend. In one episode I actually saw Locke scraping a hide, I was disappointed that we didn't get to see him brain tanning it, but oh well... Sometime in the past I expect there was a Benjamin Pressley/Ray Mears type primitive skills school that Locke attended. There he would probably have been a novice, but on the island he's the resident expert.





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Old 11-14-2005, 07:19 PM   #5
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Welcome to the Fuselage! A polite suggestion: Get thru the 1st season and try not to read ahead.
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Old 11-15-2005, 08:16 AM   #6
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Also, just a small note: several times when they've heard strange noises from the jungle I have heard the sound of a loon. Being from Maine (USA) I would recognize that anywhere. Probably just a sound the producers found that was kinda spooky to use, I'm sure it's not signifigant.
Where in Maine? I've got my roots near Augusta. But you might be right about the loon. I remember when Jurassic Park came out, I watched a documentary where they made the T-Rex roar by combining the sounds of several animals -- among them a lion and a turkey! I think this is done to make "fake animal noises" sound more realistic, and loon calls are certainly spooky, so you could be very right.
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Old 11-15-2005, 09:52 AM   #7
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1. "Walt has special power..."

I think, it isn't Walt's Special Power, who let this things happen...in my opinion this things are controlled by the island, maybe "the others" ! They know what Walt wants to do ! (Maybe they can make every wish of the survivors let come true - thatswhy jacks hallucinations, Locke's lost handicap)
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I am not quite sure what my theory is yet but I do know one thing: It can't be anything that's too sci-fi or too mythological. It has to be something that the average Joe Schmo who watches can understand. It can't be something where after however many years the show goes on, it's revealed and people go "That is so stupid (or whatever). I can't believe I wasted x years of my life watching this!"
Good point.

Lets think of Lost as a M. Night Shyamalan type movie stretched out over 100 to 150 hours. Shayamalan directed movies like The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable and The Village. Without revealing things that would spoil these movies for someone who has not seen them, it can be said that the explanations revealed in their endings run the gamut from the paranormal to just plain. normal.everyday, physical reality.

Once you know the secret at the end of one of his films, you either find it satisfactory, which is fine, or you don't, whereas your reaction might be, "That is so stupid (or whatever). I can't believe I wasted 2 hours of my life watching this!" The Lost producers and writers definitely dont want us muttering something like that, especially when we are talking about "wasting x years".

I agree with you, in that I don't think the Lost explanation will be too mythological or sci-fi, although Walt having special powers doesn't exactly fit into that framework. To me, projecting oneself or pyschic ability is a little too out there. Sometimes I think it will be revealed that there is nothing paranormal at all about the Walt's appearances to Shannon. But what that exact explanation would be, I haven't the foggiest.

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1. Walt definitely has special powers. In the first season, in episode 3, Tabula Rasa, Michael tells Walt, "I'll get your dog back as soon as it stops raining" Walt looks outside and it immediatly stops raining.
I wouldn't take at all for granted that Walt was the cause of that or any of the other "power manifestations" you may suspect.

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2. Is there signifigance to the number 23?
Your "homework" on this will be extensive but rewarding. Read Illuminatus! by Shea & Wilson. Loads of 23s have been slipped into pop culture, especially TV, and most especially TV commercials. Damon Lindelof threw in plenty in his pre-Lost work on Crossing Jordan.

And where there are 23s, are 17s far behind? Well, on Lost they seem to be. 17 has been slighted in Lost compared to 15 & 16.

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3. Locke-man of mystery. He is almost godlike. He seems all knowing. How does he know everything about everything??? He knows the ancient history of backgammon, he knows how to hunt boar, he always talks about "destiny" and what he's "supposed to do".
My explanation: When he thought he was donating a kidney, he was actually receiving implants thru which he can be fed info aurally, and which turn his paralysis off & on.

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Sometimes I think it will be revealed that there is nothing paranormal at all about the Walt's appearances to Shannon. But what that exact explanation would be, I haven't the foggiest.
I think Walt is either dead or anesthetized, and is being used as a marionette. During his first apparition to Shannon, he looked to me as if he was suspended by the waist by wires. Another wire to his hand, and the "sh" gesture is fairly easily accomplished. To make him disappear, they just yank him up into a tree. His "funny" speech is a recording. Being suspended just off the ground means no footprints.

The toughest challenge to my idea was the recent episode in which he seemed to appear inside the tent Sayid made. However, I'm taking it that he wasn't actually inside, just close to the entrance.

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