Heck, I’ve seen cases on 48 hours Mystery get convictions with less evidence. .
That is too funny but very true!! And McGuane, you summed the communication stuff really well. And ditto to the cheesiness of the "relationships" between Hurley and Libby, and Sawyer and Ana. I felt embarassed for the actors, those parts were so bad.
Maybe that is what Michael saw, and fine and jinkies if K & J believe him. Point is, Kate KNOWS that what he saw and related is far from the whole picture. Heck she even -- GASP - finally and grudgingly TOLD Jack that the Others are much more sophisticated than they appear.
Maybe its just me, but before marching off into battle, even if there is an Other caste system and one group is sentenced to be scruffy, it is imperative to share and compare ALL info they have about them. Sorry, but I'm just not buying Kate doing nothing but giving a skeptical look with Mike describing bearded tent Others when she knows about Surgical Suite Medically Trained White Lab Coat Others.
You're absolutely right. This is the kind of thing that really bothers me this season and it happens all the time. Most fans try to explain it all away but these situations where characters defy reason and common sense have really piled up in season 2.
The bottom line is that there should be some kind of conversation or mention of this by Kate or Jack before they march off to save Walt.
Also, I assume Henry is going to tell someone (Locke maybe?) that he didn't shoot anyone and that Michael actually did the shooting. Since Jack is a doctor, when he looks at Michael's gunshot wound, shouldn't he be able to tell the angle that the bullet went in? Wouldn't he be able to tell that Henry's story fits with the gunshot wound? Would that along with Jack's knowledge of the disguises bring up any doubts about what Michael has been saying?
So if Jack believes that Henry shot everyone, what exactly would the scenario have been? How did Henry's hands become untied? Henry shot Ana while she was sitting on the couch? Where was Michael while all this was going on?
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Perhaps, and I could very well be mistaken, MOD EDIT-VIP PRIVACY Maybe they have a morality clause or something and that's why it seemed so rushed.
Just a thought. I'm not putting down the two women who play them or anything. But when I saw both of them get killed, it's the first thing that popped into my mind. For all I know, they had finished taping and the two are unrelated.
Actually, Lindelof and Cuse claim that Ana's demise was planned from the begining (they say Rodriguez only wanted to be on the show for a year).
I have never been an Ana Lucia fan. After an initial hatred, I plateaued around indifference. But what a lousy way for her to go (and Libby too, who basically turned out to be a glorified extra). I'm not even talking about the WAY she died. I'm talking about the dull as doornails flashback scenes (even when it's not a Jack episode, it's a Jack episode). Even Shannon's "death episode" - rushed as it was - was better done than this. I can't even explain my disappointment in this episode.
Sorry colin, b/c of server disruptions & my fixation to fix my error before the next one, I missed your quoting me. I changed my post b/c I saw on another thread that references to this were changed by a mod.
This bothers me a little if Michael shot himself wouldn't he have gunshot residue on his hands? I'm a little disappointed with the shooting itself, it's like they killed 2 birds with one stone.
Its really interesting how they talk about the flip flops. You really get a sense of the ad hoc-ing of plot turns, like the Jack and Ana thing and the army. You can't keep flip flopping without losing the continuity. And when the continuity is gone, you no longer can expect the readers to buy into the idea that "everything is happening for a reason." And you lose the fundamental "anything could be a clue" sense among the readers that keep us involved in the mystery. In other words, no matter what happens in the show, all the credibility is gone.
Its really interesting how they talk about the flip flops. You really get a sense of the ad hoc-ing of plot turns, like the Jack and Ana thing and the army. You can't keep flip flopping without losing the continuity. And when the continuity is gone, you no longer can expect the readers to buy into the idea that "everything is happening for a reason." And you lose the fundamental "anything could be a clue" sense among the readers that keep us involved in the mystery. In other words, no matter what happens in the show, all the credibility is gone.
I totally agree with this. I used to come here after every show and read all of the threads that analyze the details and theorize about the mystery. That was a lot of fun, but I don't bother anymore.
The show has become essentially a soap opera that takes place on a beautiful island with some vague mysterious elements. Entertaining? Yeah, for the most part. But not the same show at all.
The spoilerish link above, the one where they claim that killing Ana off was the plan from the beginning, is an insult to everyone's intelligence. They must really think we're idiots.
1. "Alzheimers Island"
2. "The Inconsistency of Plane Crashes - How Smart People Can Be So Dumb"
3. "Consistency Lost"
4. "Lost Interest"
5. "Why Would I Tell You That!! An Introspective Look At Life On A Deserted Island"
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