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View Poll Results: What's up with Charlie?
It's not Charlie 0 0%
He's in shock, and doesn't want to talk about it 17 54.84%
Nothing's wrong with him 7 22.58%
Other (please explain) 7 22.58%
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Old 05-26-2006, 05:57 PM   #1
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OOC Charlie at end of Live Together, Die Alone

I'm sure everyone relaized that Charlie was acting very strange after the explosion of the hatch in the Lost finale, so I started this poll to see what everyone else thought.

Here's what I think on each of these choices:

1) It's not Charlie.

I'm doubting this one. When Charlie gets back, he is bleeding, dirty, and can't hear well, and was mostly in the exact state he was before Eko shoved him out. Speaking of that, it would have been pretty easy for Charlie to get out and away, since Eko did shove him out and the scene with Locke and Eko and Desmond turning the key took some time. He also talked about the fork and the ironing board/dynamite...not sure which one, but he made references to what happened in the hatch. So, I don't think this one is true.

2) He's in shock, and doesn't want to talk about it.

This is likely. I mean, being the dork I am, I studied pics of his facial expressions during the scene before he and Claire kiss, and he is teary eyed and looking hurt. I like this theory.

3) Nothing's wrong with him

I have a feeling, starting season three, Charlie won't be "weird" anymore, but that's just a feeling. Also, people seem to be talking more about the kiss than talking about his OOCness (out of character), so I'm wondering if not everyone caught on or if it's not as big of a deal as I'm making it.

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Old 05-26-2006, 06:06 PM   #2
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Re: OOC Charlie at end of Live Together, Die Alone

I didn't think this fell under the category of in shock, so I chose "other" because I think there were a few things at work.

First, it's pretty clear from his behaviour and what happened to him that he had a concussion. That will make a person disoriented and cloud their thinking. If Charlie wasn't answering questions or connecting a to b to c very well, it was probably because he couldn't.

Second, I think he likely knows Eko and Locke are fine because he was telling the truth that nothing happened in the hatch after the flying metal, so his behaviour is not strange at all if this is the case. He may have seen them after the chaos ended and before he himself left the hatch.

We don't know yet what the real story is but it will turn out that either Charlie was right and there was no incident once the EMP was reversed, explaining his lack of concern, or he just was incapable of thinking or worrying about it because he had a head injury.
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Old 05-26-2006, 06:10 PM   #3
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Re: OOC Charlie at end of Live Together, Die Alone

Pace, you are too smart. I admire you.

I'll go with anything but "Charlie is dead, and this isn't Charlie."

Because that would just be stupid.


And, question about your sig....Chana?

That's not...Charlie/Ana, is it? *cringe*
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Re: OOC Charlie at end of Live Together, Die Alone

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And, question about your sig....Chana?

That's not...Charlie/Ana, is it? *cringe*
Yes, but sadly it was never to be. You can go check out our Chana ship thread and read the first post for all the reasons we thought Chana would have been an awesome ship. It just may convince you. But alas, the great ship that never was....
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Old 05-26-2006, 08:46 PM   #5
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Re: OOC Charlie at end of Live Together, Die Alone

Pace, I think I love you.

I've been here, there and everywhere on LJ trying to point out to people that it's entirely likely that Charlie knows they're alright - my theory is that Locke, Eko and Desmond got out and then set off to the Pearl (probably each with their own reasoning/thing to prove/axe to grind) to see about the orientation video, and the other computer there, since Des certainly was interested. They either told Charlie to keep it a secret (and thus he's being somewhat evasive), or - more likely - they sort of gave him the brushoff and just didn't include him.

So, combine all that with some degree of concussion, and his actions start to look much more in character, IMHO.

Also - as for the 'nothing happened'... Charlie was in the hatch, so he has no idea (till Claire tells him) about the flash of light and the funny-coloured sky. Till then, he had no real reason to suspect the beach was affected in such a bizarre way. What he saw was a whole lot of stuff getting violently attracted to a magnet, and then (I'm guessing) equally vehemently repelled. Weird, yes, but also hard to explain, especially if you're feeling muddled - and from his perspective, nothing that immediately impacts on Claire/Aaron's wellbeing.

And I don't blame him for not mentioning the dynamite fiasco - after all, the LAST thing he wants to do is look like "Mr. Reckless Endangerment" in Claire's eyes again.
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Charlie was in the hatch, so he has no idea (till Claire tells him) about the flash of light and the funny-coloured sky.
I can see where you're coming from, but remember Charlie got out of the hatch, so he would've been outside when the funny light/sky stuff happened, but he would still be in the jungle, so his sight would've been blocked by the tree tops.

I like what we're coming up with here.
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Re: OOC Charlie at end of Live Together, Die Alone

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Pace, I think I love you.

I've been here, there and everywhere on LJ trying to point out to people that it's entirely likely that Charlie knows they're alright - my theory is that Locke, Eko and Desmond got out and then set off to the Pearl (probably each with their own reasoning/thing to prove/axe to grind) to see about the orientation video, and the other computer there, since Des certainly was interested. They either told Charlie to keep it a secret (and thus he's being somewhat evasive), or - more likely - they sort of gave him the brushoff and just didn't include him..
Then may I say bless you. If you're out there spreading the truth, you are performing an important service for Charlie fans everywhere. I think of all his misunderstood actions in the past, this has to be the most misunderstood at all. It seems like no one is getting it.

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And I don't blame him for not mentioning the dynamite fiasco - after all, the LAST thing he wants to do is look like "Mr. Reckless Endangerment" in Claire's eyes again
This is another excellent point that I praised when someone else raised it in the episode thread. Charlie is just getting Claire's trust back. The last thing he wants to do is come off sounding like a loon or worse, unstable.

ETA: CharliesHoodie! You go girl!! You have finally come up with the avi that I can't take my eyes off of. Now that's what the kiss should have been. Long, long, long...mesmerizing. Thank. You.
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Old 05-26-2006, 09:34 PM   #8
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Re: OOC Charlie at end of Live Together, Die Alone

Once I made it, I think I stared at it for about five minutes.
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Old 05-27-2006, 06:55 AM   #9
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Re: OOC Charlie at end of Live Together, Die Alone

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I've been here, there and everywhere on LJ trying to point out to people that it's entirely likely that Charlie knows they're alright
I think it's possible he thinks they're dead, and doesn't want people (read: Claire) to be worried. Either that or he didn't want to go around telling everyone how Locke tried to kill them all. He did seem surprised Locke and Eko hadn't made it back yet. Maybe he has no clue.

Most likely, I think the real reason he didn't answer Claire is because he "always jokes when asked a serious question he doesn't want to answer." And we all know how Charlie likes to protect Claire and keep important stuff from her.

On a more shallow note: Helllllooooo people!!!! Claire SMILED at him!!! It's a wonder the boy could still put one foot in front of the other without tripping over himself.

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Old 05-27-2006, 07:28 AM   #10
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Re: OOC Charlie at end of Live Together, Die Alone

I think he was just dazed coming out of a really big explosion. I would act a tad weird myself if that were me. If I was strong enough to survive something like that!
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