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A Tale of Two Cities Air Date: 10/4/2006 61 minutes EP: 301
Written by J.J. Abrams & Damon Lindelof
Story by Damon Lindelof
Directed by Jack Bender


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Old 10-07-2006, 10:08 PM   #1
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Goodwin's List and the attack on the Tailies

Sorry if this has been mentioned in one of the other 'List' threads but it just occurred to me:
If Benry sent Goodwin to infiltrate the Tail Section Survivors and gave him 3 days to make a list then why were the Tailies attacked and taken on the first night before Goodwin had time to make his list and report back to Benry?
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Old 10-07-2006, 10:15 PM   #2
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Re: Goodwin's List and the attack on the Tailies

Well, I guess he got the list and reported back faster. Still... Ana did say, that first day "no one knew anybody's name".

Very interesting observation.
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Old 10-07-2006, 10:23 PM   #3
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Re: Goodwin's List and the attack on the Tailies

I'm thinking that Benry sent some more Others to take out a few before they got the list, and the list came after that. Not sure about this, but maybe.
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Old 10-07-2006, 10:48 PM   #4
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Re: Goodwin's List and the attack on the Tailies

Maybe the Tallies were not attacked by the Benry guys...maybe another group of "renegade" people who live on the island....maybe a group that escaped from the Benry folks....or another group of ex-DHARMA who don't have as much as the Benry folks

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Old 10-07-2006, 11:17 PM   #5
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Re: Goodwin's List and the attack on the Tailies

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Maybe the Tallies were not attacked by the Benry guys...maybe another group of "renegade" people who live on the island....maybe a group that escaped from the Benry folks....or another group of ex-DHARMA who don't have as much as the Benry folks

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That was my thought, it would make more sense then Benry sending more "Others" before Goodwin had time to do his "job"

It may also explain the other kid in the cage, I know that alot of people think that he was an "Other" put there to mess with Sawyer's mind but what if he wasn't? What if he has from another group on the island?
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Old 10-08-2006, 06:28 AM   #6
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Re: Goodwin's List and the attack on the Tailies

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Sorry if this has been mentioned in one of the other 'List' threads but it just occurred to me:
If Benry sent Goodwin to infiltrate the Tail Section Survivors and gave him 3 days to make a list then why were the Tailies attacked and taken on the first night before Goodwin had time to make his list and report back to Benry?
I think the others already had the list of names, they just wanted Goodwin to scout out the good ones. He was suppose to find the ones among the list that, were either strong, or good. ( considering , I'm still not sure what he was exactly looking for). But Ana did point out that no one knew each others name the first night, and considering that it seem like the others camp was far from the tallie's camp site. It would have taken some time for Goodwin to get the list to Henry, and get back without someone noticing him missing, exspecially, considering that Ana notice that Nathan was gone for two hours, so I'm sure she would have notice if Goodwin was missing.

Question: If Goodwin was a spy for the others, and Ana killed him. Than who was it that told Ben that it was Ana that killed Goodwin?
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Old 10-08-2006, 06:35 AM   #7
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Re: Goodwin's List and the attack on the Tailies

Good point about them finding out ana killed goodwin. But i think the first few were taken the first night just because they were the strongest. Not because they were on the list, they removed them first so it'd be easier to take the rest.
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:32 AM   #8
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Re: Goodwin's List and the attack on the Tailies

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Maybe the Tallies were not attacked by the Benry guys...maybe another group of "renegade" people who live on the island....maybe a group that escaped from the Benry folks....or another group of ex-DHARMA who don't have as much as the Benry folks
Or maybe the remnants of the indigenous population that built the four-toed statue. I thought the same thing - there are more than one group of Others on the island.

Where are the kidnapped people? Where are the children? Why did the children look so rag-tag walking through the jungle in season 2? The Others certainly don't seem rag-tag unless they dress up at it for someone else's benefit. It seems strange to me that we didn't see the children around the Other's village. They wouldn't even need to break them. The children would follow because the Others were adults taking care of them. I know someone (Tom or Benry or Goodwin - can't remember) said the children were fine but if they have them, where are they?
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Question: If Goodwin was a spy for the others, and Ana killed him. Than who was it that told Ben that it was Ana that killed Goodwin?
Good question. Kinda makes you wonder about Benry's loyalty.
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But i think the first few were taken the first night just because they were the strongest. Not because they were on the list, they removed them first so it'd be easier to take the rest.
But why "take" them? If the Others just walked down to the beach and offered help, the survivors would have gone willingly. After all, they were waiting to be rescued.

Getting back to the Others dressing up for someone else's benefit - why bother when no one knows you anyway? Could it be to blend with the indigenous population and move through the jungle more safely? Did I just answer my own question about the children? If so, why keep them hidden? Is the Other's village under threat of attack?
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:45 AM   #9
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Re: Goodwin's List and the attack on the Tailies

I don't think goodwin had reported back to 'Othersville' I don't think he was the only 'other' in the proximity of the 'taillies' he may have had to only go into the jungle a little, pass the list off to someone else who would then report it back to Ben and that way Goodwin wouldn't have to be gone all that long.

in answering who told Ben that Ana killed Goodwin I believe Cindy to be the most likely person

Hopefully this season we'll find out exactly what happened to her.
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Old 10-08-2006, 09:46 AM   #10
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Re: Goodwin's List and the attack on the Tailies

I think the opening scene of this season was written so long after the attack on the Tailies that the writers / producers simply forgot.

They're making this stuff up as they go along and not doing a good job with the continuity
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