Re: Does anyone else believe that Ben is telling the truth
I think that Ben needs Jack to solve the Island's code/mystery. By doing this, the place will be secure, thus allowing all to go home. I think the Others are kept there until they solve the mystery and Jack may be the one to do it.
Re: Does anyone else believe that Ben is telling the truth?
I don't believe anything Ben says anymore. I didn't believe he was Henry Gale, but I did believe that he hadn't pushed the button and that he might have been coming for Locke. He has no credibility left, so no, even if he can take Jack home, I don't think he would. Jack would also be more likely to tell someone about the island than Michael would. (And I'm not convinced he's homebound either.)
He did not write poetry,
He lived poetry before it existed.
He did not speak of philosophy,
He cleaned up the dung philosophy left behind.
He had no address,
He lived in a ball of dust, playing with the universe.
--Zen poet Jung Kwung
Re: Does anyone else believe that Ben is telling the truth?
There's a couple good reasons why we should believe him:
1- He didn't lie to Michael
2- He told Jack some true facts such as the date and that the Red Sox won the world series and that Christopher Reeve died.
Re: Does anyone else believe that Ben is telling the truth?
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Originally Posted by Eight
There's a couple good reasons why we should believe him:
1- He didn't lie to Michael
2- He told Jack some true facts such as the date and that the Red Sox won the world series and that Christopher Reeve died.
1. We don't know that for sure. There is no proof at this point that Walt and Michael made it off the island to safety.
2. So what? He told Jack useless facts in order to get Jack to believe him about other things. What he did tell him is utterly meaningless.
Re: Does anyone else believe that Ben is telling the truth?
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Originally Posted by RamessesIX
I don't believe anything Ben says anymore. I didn't believe he was Henry Gale, but I did believe that he hadn't pushed the button and that he might have been coming for Locke. He has no credibility left, so no, even if he can take Jack home, I don't think he would. Jack would also be more likely to tell someone about the island than Michael would. (And I'm not convinced he's homebound either.)
I agree. After all that's happened, everything that Ben says these days just sounds like another lie. Especially his little "hunch down and offer my hand in friendship trick". Jack should just laugh in his face.
Also, if the current leader of the Others is a pathological liar then this goes a long way in nullifying any "We are the good guys" claims they might possibly have.
Re: Does anyone else believe that Ben is telling the truth?
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Originally Posted by Eight
There's a couple good reasons why we should believe him:
1- He didn't lie to Michael
2- He told Jack some true facts such as the date and that the Red Sox won the world series and that Christopher Reeve died.
Ben was already planning to use Jack for something at that point (when he "released" Michael and Walt), so it would be in his best interest to make it APPEAR to Jack (who was witnessing the whole thing) that he was able to return them to safety...even if they were just going to go in circles around the island forever.... Whether they escape or not, Jack thinks they did, so that gives him the impression that Ben is telling the truth (and has the ability to take Jack "home" as well).
Re: Does anyone else believe that Ben is telling the truth?
I hate the others. They hung Charlie, abducted numerous Tailies, snapped Nathan's neck, took Danielle's baby, killed the Scott/Steve guy, were about to kill Michael and this last episode tried to kill a pregnant Sun. I hope by the time this series ends, Jack, Sawyer & co. have killed every last one of them.
Re: Does anyone else believe that Ben is telling the truth?
At this point I wouldnt take Benry at his word with anything. If he had flames coming out of his head and said he was on fire id be inclined to not believe him Hopefully Jack wont be so gullible as to be swayed to believe Benry by a tape of the Red Sox winning.